This is Why Trump is a SCUMBAG!

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UPDATED: Tuesday, April 7, 2026 22:00
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Incrementalism is a fascist tactic. Hitler didn't start throwing people in ovens the first day.

He started by spewing hate at certain groups. Normalizing it. Kristallnacht wouldn't have happened if the Nazis hadn't already primed the pump.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

40 out of 15,000 isn't a bad number by any means. Should probably wait for more details about the "why" before anybody goes making any rush judgements and starts calling everybody racists.

Those 40 make up .0026% of the amount of people who went into the program since it was enacted by the GWB admin, according to your article.

I can think of about 1,000 reasons why 40 of 15,000 people might be discharged from the armed services, and none of them have anything to do with race or nationality is all I'm saying.

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Of course that number is very low percent wise, and I included that part of the article specifically so there are no accusations of hyperbole. The questions any curious person should be asking - especially in this current anti-immagrant climate - is why now? Why not before? Why is this suddenly important? Is this another trial balloon? You don't mess with the Military without seeing what The Base's response is going to be.

There are reductions being made to all forms of immigration, legal and illegal, and now we're even seeing attempts to de-naturalize immigrants. That's f*cked up. Unless maybe that warms your heart?

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The number is extremely low, percent wise.

Why now? Because it's a hot topic, and immigration is all that CNN and MSNBC can talk about this week. They know that most people don't even read articles so they can just put a sensationilist headline on there and people will pass it around facebook as yet more proof that everything is racist.

Don't worry. A few weeks from now nobody will even remember that it happened.


Why don't you try to find dates for people who were discharged and why they were discharged. I'll bet that this didn't just happen all of the sudden and was going on the whole time.

Military life isn't supposed to be easy. Not everyone is cut out for it.

99%+ still enlisted in the program is a ridiculously high number. This means that either these immigrants are getting really lax treatment, or they're working exceptionally hard in general to complete the program.

My guess is a little of column A and a little of column B.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I should add that I'm actually impressed with the restraint by a few of you to just jump on this one and scream "SEE!!! RACISM!!!! NAZISM!!!! FASCIST!!!!".

It's an action that I'd like to see everybody on both "sides" start practicing more until it becomes a trend... and dare I hope, even one day a habit for everyone.

It's not that the media "lies" all of the time. There's usually quite a bit of factual data presented in any report that comes from either "side" of the news. The "lie" is in the bias in which it is presented and taken out of context. Both "sides" are equally guilty of this. Not only in how it is reported, but in how us idiots respond like rabid dogs immediately when we read the headlines.




I think we could all get along much better if we weren't always so quick to ask "how high" when our Media Masters tell us to jump.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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There are reductions being made to all forms of immigration, legal and illegal

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Why should e not reduce immigration? Make you best case for open borders and let's talk.

BTW- what do you think the number of legal immigrants was under JFK?

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As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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There are reductions being made to all forms of immigration, legal and illegal

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Why should e not reduce immigration? Make you best case for open borders and let's talk.

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Yes, because we all want open borders....

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BTW- what do you think the number of legal immigrants was under JFK?

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Irrelevant. This isn't 1962.

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Trump keeps claiming credit for fixing things that aren't fixed
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/07/politics/trump-claims-credit/index.html

SCUMBAG!

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Kristallnacht wouldn't have happened if ... Germany had a healthy economy instead of hyperinflation, that saw many previously middle-class Germans starve to death or be at the brink of starvation death. Kristallnacht wouldn't have happened if ... Hitler hadn't ALREADY sent out groups of spies and assassinated many political rivals, making people afraid to speak out. Kristallnacht wouldn't have happened if ... there wasn't a pre-existing, widespread, literally centuries-old bias against Jews.

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SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

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THE NEW NORMAL?
Despite the claims that this is business as usual, an indication of the changed tactics came earlier in the week when Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly testified before Congress. He told lawmakers immigration agents expressed frustration about that they were not fully allowed to enforce immigration laws under the Obama administration. He predicted Trump’s directives would end that frustration.

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Kiki, thank you for responding in the way that you did.
Now, I was trying to make a point. I posted the quote above to illustrate a
point. See where it says that the ICE people have frustrated agents on their hands (a quote from John Kelly) because they can't carry on and enforce the
law. On the one hand, they (meaning the right and presumably the Trump regime) call Obama the Deporter in Chief, yet are screaming bloody murder
because they can't arrest people. That's why I say, which is it? You can't be both a major deporter and withhold the agents from arresting people.

Something's amiss. But I heard a report where Obama had a simplified
approach to handling families. They would keep them together until seen by
the judge in Immigration court. I have to dig a little to get verifiable
info on that, but I heard this recently as a result of MSNBC's coverage
of Trump's cruelty program. That's why I call "scumbag" on both he and his
regime. Obama enforces the law to a certain degree (the article in politico
described it that way) yet people poo-poo his program because he deported
people that were a danger to our society (I'm paraphrasing here).

So, I don't get it. Not that Obama didn't deport people. He did. But his
administration gave priority to those that would harm the U.S. What Trump
is doing is sanctioned human trafficking and pointed profiteering from
building "detention" centers. I know I'm splitting hairs, but that's the
reality of the situation. Plus the fact that Trump is a disgusting human
being and a racist. That kind of gets me, especially when it involves
young innocent children. Imagine if Obama had locked up little babies and
toddlers and held them hostage? Fuck, he would have been hung...literally!

You're right, rhetoric is all bullshit. But I'm choosing the side of those poor kids. And please don't give me that line that their parents are to
blame. These folks literally "walked" thousands of miles to escape an environment suffocating in violence, greed and exploitation, human trafficking. These are desperate times for the majority of those poor folk.
What Trump is doing is criminal and extremely exploitative. He's profiting
from human suffering and using the babies as a bargaining chip. I say
fuck him and his merry band of cutthroats. My utter hate and disdain has
everything to do with the scumbag way he's using these children. Period.
You want to call Obama a scumbag for what he did, go right ahead. This is
after all, still America. I am proud of people protesting this sleeze we
call Trump. No teams, just reality happening now.

Mark my words, if we as a country allow this to continue, this won't be
America for long.


SGG

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
The reason why I answered your post, Shiny, even though you posted RIGHT AFTER my post which contained in black and skyblue exactly what you were demanding is this:

I've been trying to point out that just because one "side" is bad doesn't make the other "side" good, or even marginally better. I think a lot of you are stuck in thinking of this as a matter of 'teams', where there are only two in a game, and one side wins and the other side loses. But this isn't televised sports with all the glitz and commercialized team spirit. It's a quieter and more complex reality. We need to solve problems, not pick teams.

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SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresen

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