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Solo: A Star Wars Story

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 10:18 PM

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I believe Chewie's age as a 200-year-old Wookiee was noted in the script or novelization for A New Hope. In any event, I'm 99% sure we've from expanded materials that he's about 200 since the era of the original trilogy.

I thought the timing for this movie was 10 years BBY, but I just read an article that said it's about 11 BBY, not that the one year makes a big difference... In context, though, that places us 6 years prior to the Rebels animated series, for those who care about that.

One thing that I found awesome were the references to the old Lando Calrissian trilogy. The first two books, The Mindharp of Sharu and The Flamewinds of Oseon, were directly referenced. There was probably a reference to the Starcave of ThonBoka that I missed.

Similarly, there were a few visual references to the old Han Solo trilogy (Brian Daley, not A.C. Crispin), with at least two homages to the third book in Dryden's collection (I would never have picked up on the second one without having flipped through the visual dictionary).

Theforce.net has an interesting article today about why the BO take for SOLO isn't the full - or even main - story from Disney's perspective. The article posits that this movie is basically a sounding to see how audiences will respond to certain things, and although it will have impact on some of their long-term plans, those long-term plans will move forward nonetheless:

http://www.theforce.net/story/fron
t/Why_The_Solo_A_Star_Wars_Sto
ry_Box_Office_Doesnt_Tell_Th
e_Whole_Story_180880.asp

Perhaps worth noting, too: The first Thor movie had a worldwide take of 450 million and is considered one of the worst Marvel movies. The most recent Thor movie has made almost double that, and is considered among the best... and Solo is certainly a better movie than either of the first two Thors.

I think the positive word of month the movie has been receiving from those who've seen it will factor into things. I've spoken to probably a dozen people who've seen it so far, and the reactions have ranged from "I enjoyed it" to "I loved it." Sure, tickets tell a different story, but that's something I can't say about about Eps 7 and 8.

I don't think it is Spoiler that there is a 3 year span in this film.
At the end of the 3 years, Chewbacca is 190 years old, at least. Based upon the comments about the Rebellion and it's Genesis, I had thought it closer to ANH/R1. But I think you said it is from 11 years to 8 years before, making Han about 29 when he meets Luke & Leia.
What is BBY?
So then this starts 7 years after Episode III, right?



I just skimmed a few articles and I don't think there's solid consensus about what exact year the movie takes place, but everyone agrees that it's roughly a decade prior to A New Hope.

With the 3 year jump indicated, it could be 14/11, or 13/10, or even 12/9. But

BBY = Before Battle of Yavin, so Rogue One and A New Hope are technically "zero," I guess. My understanding (again, from the articles I just skimmed) is that the timeline looks like this:

Phantom Menace -32 BBY
Attack of the Clones -22 BBY
Revenge of the Sith -19 BBY
Solo (intro) approx -14/-13 BBY
Solo (main story) approx - 11/10 BBY
Rebels (animated series) begins -5 BBY
Rogue One 0 BBY
A New Hope 0 BBY (establishes Battle of Yavin and new timeline)

Thus, Chewie may not LITERALLY be 190 in Solo or 200 in ANH, but he's close enough. If you've 202, does it really matter? :)

As for Han, his actual age has never been established, but he's about a decade older than Luke and Leia, who would be 19 during ANH, so let's call him 29 (a commonly accepted number, despite Ford being much older than that). That would make Solo roughly 19 during the main storyline and 16 during the intro. That seems to jibe storywise, even if Alden Ehrenre

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Sunday, June 3, 2018 1:04 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Solo: A Star Wars Story has been on several Must-See Lists this year, and I feel it may be the first or best to fulfill hopes and expectations, in quite a while. I liked Wind River but it was a surprise for me, I didn't really see it coming. I had known Rogue One was coming, but I didn't know what it was about, what context or connection to the Star Wars quiltwork. Solo was a character I was familiar with, and I am glad Ron Howard has added this to his resume. Makes me wish he would have accepted the other Star Wars film that he was asked to do years ago.

This could well be the best overall film of the year.

I can't list everything right now, but some thoughts of similarities: Let's Do Crime! From The Train Job. Some vibe of James Bond, with the story and scene of spy entering the villian's lair, which also resembles Trash - and I never noticed that about the Bellerophon visit until watching this film, and later this scene development reminded me of The Ball in Shindig, with 3 BDHs bumping into each other. And I wondered - is this what was trying to happen with that lame Casino gambit in TLJ?
Galaxy Quest had dragging mines, Star Trek II's climax, Star Wars V, Gran Torino, Pilot Serenity opening scenes, Starship Troopers, Top Gun flight tricks, plus the James Bond card games I was all reminded of.
I have not seen Thor 3

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where Thor and Hulk meet in the arena.



Apparently Wookie Speak does not have a word for

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reinforcements



I heard that Howard shot more than 80% of the shots. I suspect one that was left from the twits was Falcon landing on Severin.

I did notice some grainy or fuzzy lensework, and maybe poor lighting or contrast on numerous shots. This seemed a departure from the Lucas works, which had crisp color, contrast, focus, lighting whether indoors or desert locales. Howard's work has also maintained crisp cinematography in each film I can recall. I think all of Firefly had better resolution and clarity than some scenes in Solo.

The story seemed quite the symphony of coinciding needs and talents, altering the balance from one shot to the next.

Does anybody know of the time frame here, or did I miss it? SWIV was 18 years after SWIII. So how far between there did this span take place?
Did we already know how old Chewbacca was?

I thought there was more that I planned to say. Can't believe it's not coming to me. Probably need to watch again.

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Wednesday, June 6, 2018 8:29 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Solo: A Star Wars Story has been on several Must-See Lists this year, and I feel it may be the first or best to fulfill hopes and expectations, in quite a while. I liked Wind River but it was a surprise for me, I didn't really see it coming. I had known Rogue One was coming, but I didn't know what it was about, what context or connection to the Star Wars quiltwork. Solo was a character I was familiar with, and I am glad Ron Howard has added this to his resume. Makes me wish he would have accepted the other Star Wars film that he was asked to do years ago.

This could well be the best overall film of the year.

I can't list everything right now, but some thoughts of similarities: Let's Do Crime! From The Train Job. Some vibe of James Bond, with the story and scene of spy entering the villian's lair, which also resembles Trash - and I never noticed that about the Bellerophon visit until watching this film, and later this scene development reminded me of The Ball in Shindig, with 3 BDHs bumping into each other. And I wondered - is this what was trying to happen with that lame Casino gambit in TLJ?
Galaxy Quest had dragging mines, Star Trek II's climax, Star Wars V, Gran Torino, Pilot Serenity opening scenes, Starship Troopers, Top Gun flight tricks, plus the James Bond card games I was all reminded of.
I have not seen Thor 3

Select to view spoiler:


where Thor and Hulk meet in the arena.



Apparently Wookie Speak does not have a word for

Select to view spoiler:


reinforcements



I heard that Howard shot more than 80% of the shots. I suspect one that was left from the twits was Falcon landing on Savareen.

I did notice some grainy or fuzzy lensework, and maybe poor lighting or contrast on numerous shots. This seemed a departure from the Lucas works, which had crisp color, contrast, focus, lighting whether indoors or desert locales. Howard's work has also maintained crisp cinematography in each film I can recall. I think all of Firefly had better resolution and clarity than some scenes in Solo.

The story seemed quite the symphony of coinciding needs and talents, altering the balance from one shot to the next.

Does anybody know of the time frame here, or did I miss it? SWIV was 18 years after SWIII. So how far between there did this span take place?
Did we already know how old Chewbacca was?

I was also reminded of Edge of Tomorrow, when a liar explains an honest person: take him away, and don't believe anything he says, it's all lies.
And Objects in Space, when River embodies Serenity.
The Landing in Armageddon.

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Saturday, June 9, 2018 9:30 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Solo: A Star Wars Story has been on several Must-See Lists this year, and I feel it may be the first or best to fulfill hopes and expectations, in quite a while. I liked Wind River but it was a surprise for me, I didn't really see it coming. I had known Rogue One was coming, but I didn't know what it was about, what context or connection to the Star Wars quiltwork. Solo was a character I was familiar with, and I am glad Ron Howard has added this to his resume. Makes me wish he would have accepted the other Star Wars film that he was asked to do years ago.

This could well be the best overall film of the year.

I can't list everything right now, but some thoughts of similarities: Let's Do Crime! From The Train Job. Some vibe of James Bond, with the story and scene of spy entering the villian's lair, which also resembles Trash - and I never noticed that about the Bellerophon visit until watching this film, and later this scene development reminded me of The Ball in Shindig, with 3 BDHs bumping into each other. And I wondered - is this what was trying to happen with that lame Casino gambit in TLJ?
Galaxy Quest had dragging mines, Star Trek II's climax, Star Wars V, Gran Torino, Pilot Serenity opening scenes, Starship Troopers, Top Gun flight tricks, plus the James Bond card games I was all reminded of.
I have not seen Thor 3

Select to view spoiler:


where Thor and Hulk meet in the arena.



Apparently Wookie Speak does not have a word for

Select to view spoiler:


reinforcements



I heard that Howard shot more than 80% of the shots. I suspect one that was left from the twits was Falcon landing on Savareen.

I did notice some grainy or fuzzy lensework, and maybe poor lighting or contrast on numerous shots. This seemed a departure from the Lucas works, which had crisp color, contrast, focus, lighting whether indoors or desert locales. Howard's work has also maintained crisp cinematography in each film I can recall. I think all of Firefly had better resolution and clarity than some scenes in Solo.

The story seemed quite the symphony of coinciding needs and talents, altering the balance from one shot to the next.

Does anybody know of the time frame here, or did I miss it? SWIV was 18 years after SWIII. So how far between there did this span take place?
Did we already know how old Chewbacca was?

I was also reminded of Edge of Tomorrow, when a liar explains an honest person: take him away, and don't believe anything he says, it's all lies.
And Objects in Space, when River embodies Serenity.
The Landing in Armageddon.

I saw where Gwek mentioned that Rogue One was a better film than Solo, but is just more dark, so not as fun.
This helps me reconcile my viewpoint conflicts. Although I cannot really downgrade R1 for the required underlying sacrifice, I can understand that for some it is insurmountable.
In this way I agree Solo is more fun. I just wish the cinematography was up to par. I really don't understand the purpose of intentionally creating a substandard work - with a practically unlimited budget. The more I watch it, the more irritated I am by these technicalities, even with decent story and SFX.

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Sunday, June 10, 2018 2:10 PM

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Originally posted by GWEK:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by GWEK:
I believe Chewie's age as a 200-year-old Wookiee was noted in the script or novelization for A New Hope. In any event, I'm 99% sure we've from expanded materials that he's about 200 since the era of the original trilogy.

I thought the timing for this movie was 10 years BBY, but I just read an article that said it's about 11 BBY, not that the one year makes a big difference... In context, though, that places us 6 years prior to the Rebels animated series, for those who care about that.

One thing that I found awesome were the references to the old Lando Calrissian trilogy. The first two books, The Mindharp of Sharu and The Flamewinds of Oseon, were directly referenced. There was probably a reference to the Starcave of ThonBoka that I missed.

Similarly, there were a few visual references to the old Han Solo trilogy (Brian Daley, not A.C. Crispin), with at least two homages to the third book in Dryden's collection (I would never have picked up on the second one without having flipped through the visual dictionary).

Theforce.net has an interesting article today about why the BO take for SOLO isn't the full - or even main - story from Disney's perspective. The article posits that this movie is basically a sounding to see how audiences will respond to certain things, and although it will have impact on some of their long-term plans, those long-term plans will move forward nonetheless:

http://www.theforce.net/stor
y/front/Why_The_Solo_A_Star_Wars_Sto
ry_Box_Office_Do
esnt_Tell_The_Whole_Story_180880.asp

Perhaps worth noting, too: The first Thor movie had a worldwide take of 450 million and is considered one of the worst Marvel movies. The most recent Thor movie has made almost double that, and is considered among the best... and Solo is certainly a better movie than either of the first two Thors.

I think the positive word of month the movie has been receiving from those who've seen it will factor into things. I've spoken to probably a dozen people who've seen it so far, and the reactions have ranged from "I enjoyed it" to "I loved it." Sure, tickets tell a different story, but that's something I can't say about about Eps 7 and 8.

I don't think it is Spoiler that there is a 3 year span in this film.
At the end of the 3 years, Chewbacca is 190 years old, at least. Based upon the comments about the Rebellion and it's Genesis, I had thought it closer to ANH/R1. But I think you said it is from 11 years to 8 years before, making Han about 29 when he meets Luke & Leia.
What is BBY?
So then this starts 7 years after Episode III, right?



I just skimmed a few articles and I don't think there's solid consensus about what exact year the movie takes place, but everyone agrees that it's roughly a decade prior to A New Hope.

With the 3 year jump indicated, it could be 14/11, or 13/10, or even 12/9. But

BBY = Before Battle of Yavin, so Rogue One and A New Hope are technically "zero," I guess. My understanding (again, from the articles I just skimmed) is that the timeline looks like this:

Phantom Menace -32 BBY
Attack of the Clones -22 BBY
Revenge of the Sith -19 BBY
Solo (intro) approx -14/-13 BBY
Solo (main story) approx - 11/10 BBY
Rebels (animated series) begins -5 BBY
Rogue One 0 BBY
A New Hope 0 BBY (establishes Battle of Yavin and new timeline)

Thus, Chewie may not LITERALLY be 190 in Solo or 200 in ANH, but he's close enough. If you've 202, does it really matter? :)

As for Han, his actual age has never been established, but he's about a decade older than Luke and Leia, who would be 19 during ANH, so let's call him 29 (a commonly accepted number, despite Ford being much older than that). That would make Solo roughly 19 during the main storyline and 16 during the intro. That seems to jibe storywise, even if Alden Ehrenre

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Sunday, June 10, 2018 5:10 PM

Quote:

I saw where Gwek mentioned that Rogue One was a better film than Solo, but is just more dark, so not as fun.
This helps me reconcile my viewpoint conflicts. Although I cannot really downgrade R1 for the required underlying sacrifice, I can understand that for some it is insurmountable.
In this way I agree Solo is more fun. I just wish the cinematography was up to par. I really don't understand the purpose of intentionally creating a substandard work - with a practically unlimited budget. The more I watch it, the more irritated I am by these technicalities, even with decent story and SFX.



Hey Jewels,

I think that they were going for a 70s type vibe in regards to the
cinematography, but, as I understand it, they had projection problems in many theaters.

http://www.slashfilm.com/solo-projection-problems/

This may be the reason why it got lousy reviews as well.


SGG

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Monday, June 11, 2018 4:52 AM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
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I saw where Gwek mentioned that Rogue One was a better film than Solo, but is just more dark, so not as fun.
This helps me reconcile my viewpoint conflicts. Although I cannot really downgrade R1 for the required underlying sacrifice, I can understand that for some it is insurmountable.
In this way I agree Solo is more fun. I just wish the cinematography was up to par. I really don't understand the purpose of intentionally creating a substandard work - with a practically unlimited budget. The more I watch it, the more irritated I am by these technicalities, even with decent story and SFX.



Hey Jewels,

I think that they were going for a 70s type vibe in regards to the
cinematography, but, as I understand it, they had projection problems in many theaters.

http://www.slashfilm.com/solo-projection-problems/

This may be the reason why it got lousy reviews as well.


SGG


Any word on how these will translate to DVD?

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Monday, June 11, 2018 12:09 PM

I'm not sure about the DVD graphics, but I will keep you posted if I hear anything.

By the way, the theater I saw this in had a very good screen and the
cinematography was excellent. Wide screen, excellent graphics although
some scenes were a bit on the dark side. I don't know if that was due to a filtering process.

P.S. I found out that the DVD release date is September 2018 in both
digital HD and Blu Ray. I didn't get much more than that.


SGG


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
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I saw where Gwek mentioned that Rogue One was a better film than Solo, but is just more dark, so not as fun.
This helps me reconcile my viewpoint conflicts. Although I cannot really downgrade R1 for the required underlying sacrifice, I can understand that for some it is insurmountable.
In this way I agree Solo is more fun. I just wish the cinematography was up to par. I really don't understand the purpose of intentionally creating a substandard work - with a practically unlimited budget. The more I watch it, the more irritated I am by these technicalities, even with decent story and SFX.



Hey Jewels,

I think that they were going for a 70s type vibe in regards to the
cinematography, but, as I understand it, they had projection problems in many theaters.

http://www.slashfilm.com/solo-projection-problems/

This may be the reason why it got lousy reviews as well.


SGG


Any word on how these will translate to DVD?

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Monday, June 11, 2018 3:31 PM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I'm not sure about the DVD graphics, but I will keep you posted if I hear anything.

By the way, the theater I saw this in had a very good screen and the
cinematography was excellent. Wide screen, excellent graphics although
some scenes were a bit on the dark side. I don't know if that was due to a filtering process.

P.S. I found out that the DVD release date is September 2018 in both
digital HD and Blu Ray. I didn't get much more than that.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Quote:

I saw where Gwek mentioned that Rogue One was a better film than Solo, but is just more dark, so not as fun.
This helps me reconcile my viewpoint conflicts. Although I cannot really downgrade R1 for the required underlying sacrifice, I can understand that for some it is insurmountable.
In this way I agree Solo is more fun. I just wish the cinematography was up to par. I really don't understand the purpose of intentionally creating a substandard work - with a practically unlimited budget. The more I watch it, the more irritated I am by these technicalities, even with decent story and SFX.



Hey Jewels,

I think that they were going for a 70s type vibe in regards to the
cinematography, but, as I understand it, they had projection problems in many theaters.

http://www.slashfilm.com/solo-projection-problems/

This may be the reason why it got lousy reviews as well.


SGG


Any word on how these will translate to DVD?


I've seen it on more then 2 different screens.
You didn't find the first yacht scenes, at the party, to be unfocused or hazy? Now that I recall, the final scenes on the yacht seemed much better focused or filtered.

I could understand if the first chase scenes were watery, to give contrast aluding to a separate time period, but then everything in the now time should be clear.

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