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We already had Norm and Norma. Only their names were Barack and Michelle. Unlike Signy's take on Norm and Norma, I don't think that they have mush for brains at all. On the contrary, I think that people that are as polished as that are likely as intelligent as they are dangerous. Who doesn't love somebody who always says exactly what everyone wants to hear?
I'll admit that Second's segway there wasn't as annoying as his usual segways, and the insults were rather muted. It still didn't address the actual post I made though because he knows that I'm right.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by second:
Instead, I took it to the officers and I got punished, with much drama. After, I did not shoot water buffalo, although if you do not talk about it, you can do it.
Since then, I’ve learned I can’t fix what is wrong with other people’s "thinking".
Since then, unlike Vietnam, I can't be touched by the thinking of other people. And not only am I immune from other people's thinking, I experience no negative consequences from any mistakes in my own thinking.
Being rich makes me right. Being rich lets me think it's everyone else who's fucked up. Being rich means I can tell everyone to fuck off. Being rich makes it OK for me to be a pompous, deluded, self-righteous asshole.
SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
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Quote:I thought that was every thread, the ones with posts by second/T/CC/JJ/G/pizmobeach.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Is this where SECOND derails an entire topic to talk about George Soros? Oh wait, that happened in ANOTHER thread http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62134.
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Quote:I have major doubt about many people being able to remember recent history.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:How much do you get paid to act like an idiot? Oh, that's right .... you're fabulously rich, and so of course you would NEVER blame the wealthy or the policies that made you so.
How much did Putin pay you to shift the blame to Americans? So long as incompetent Yeltsin was in charge, Russia was doomed.
But, unlike you, I have a less corrupt view of the world, and I happen to (a) know quite a but more about economics than you do and (b) pay a lot more attention to world political economics than you do AND (c) I remember, very clearly, the USA media gleefully tooting its horn about how we were going to "reform" the Russian economy.
And fortunately, I'm not the only one who remembers recent history!
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Quote:I know you are wrong. All politicians, Democrat and Republicans, operate under the same restriction that prevent keeping their promises.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We already had Norm and Norma. Only their names were Barack and Michelle. Unlike Signy's take on Norm and Norma, I don't think that they have mush for brains at all. On the contrary, I think that people that are as polished as that are likely as intelligent as they are dangerous. Who doesn't love somebody who always says exactly what everyone wants to hear?
I'll admit that Second's segway there wasn't as annoying as his usual segways, and the insults were rather muted. It still didn't address the actual post I made though because he knows that I'm right.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Why can’t politicians follow through on their most heartfelt promises? Because the voters would murder the politicians if they went all the way, no matter what, to keep their promises.
LBJ and Nixon promised a win, but America lost the Vietnam War because Americans wanted to quit when their deaths got to 50,000. Even if Nixon was willing, Americans weren’t willing to throw more bodies at that war because they didn’t care enough about the Vietnamese. How do I know? Remember the story about shooting S Vietnamese water buffalo from a helicopter? That’s how I know. You don’t kill the Vietnamese’s plow animals when you are willing to fight all the way to absolute victory, no matter what happens along the way, for the Vietnamese. The majority of Americans wanted to quit every week when the new casualty report came in. No politician can get reelected by being willing to throw another 100,000 dead on that pile, especially against the will of the majority of Americans. Americans just didn’t like the Vietnamese enough to do what was necessary to win.
In stark contrast, America won the Civil War because Americans were willing to throw 600,000 dead bodies at that war. Not all, but a fairly big majority of Americans truly wanted that win. It was worth the effort, unlike Vietnam. If Lincoln had fought the Vietnam War, he would have lost the same as Nixon because Americans didn’t care enough about Vietnam. No matter how great a President, Lincoln couldn’t win against the antipathy of the majority of voters about the fate of the Vietnamese.
West Virginia or 6ixStringJack is the new S Vietnam or the new Confederate ex-slave. A small percent of Americans might care about what happens to West Virginia or 6ixStringJack, but the majority do not. No politician can win against the antipathy of the majority of voters about the fate of people like 6ixStringJack. Do you remember what happened to the Vietnamese boat people or the slaves after Reconstruction ended? Neither crisis was America at its finest, because most Americans did not care what happened. 6ix is in the same boat with the boat people or ex-slaves. Most Americans don't care, therefore politicians are severely limited in how much they can care. The politicians can't do whatever it takes to solve certain problems because the majority of voters won't let them. The majority of voters don't care enough about those certain problems.
6ix might get some help for years, as Vietnam did because LBJ and Nixon were willing to lie to the max and cheat the American public, but it won’t be long enough for 6ix to win his war unless he does most of the fighting. Eventually even the biggest liar and cheater gets booted from office, before he has fulfilled his promises. The federal government (without a LBJ or a Nixon) will not fight very hard or long to save 6ix because American voters don’t want the government to help very much the people like 6ix. It is too expensive, too inconvenient, and 6ix is too unappealing. Maybe if he was a cute little puppy, but he’s actually a whiny, middle-age man who is happier not working. It is political suicide to help him. The voters would be furious if they learn their tax money is being spent on him. They don’t like him any m
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Comparing Vietnam to the Civil War... lol
You're a character man.
I don't need anybodies help.
An even playing field would be nice though.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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SECOND- I find your post such a mish-mash of bad assumptions and resentments I don't even know where to begin ...
Quote:OF COURSE they didn't "care enough" about the Vietnamese. Why should "they" (we)?
I know you are wrong. All politicians, Democrat and Republicans, operate under the same restriction that prevent keeping their promises.
Why can’t politicians follow through on their most heartfelt promises? Because the voters would murder the politicians if they went all the way, no matter what, to keep their promises. LBJ and Nixon promised a win, but America lost the Vietnam War because Americans wanted to quit when their deaths got to 50,000. Even if Nixon was willing, Americans weren’t willing to throw more bodies at that war because they didn’t care enough about the Vietnamese.- SECOND
Quote:How can you possibly equate "liking" the Vietnamese" with "winning", especially "winning at all costs"? That's just flabbergasting! As I gather from your story, you were OK with shooting women and children, but not water buffalo? So, what would "winning" look like? And how were we supposed to "win"? Do you think that we should have bombed, burned, and shot even MORE Vietnamese (and Cambodians)?
Americans just didn’t like the Vietnamese enough to do what was necessary to win.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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OOOH! I get to post whatever I want about SECOND, and SECOND ignores me! What an opportunity!
SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
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I couldn't help but notice that SECONAL STILL ignored Jacks' post:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We already had Norm and Norma. Only their names were Barack and Michelle. Unlike Signy's take on Norm and Norma, I don't think that they have mush for brains at all. On the contrary, I think that people that are as polished as that are likely as intelligent as they are dangerous. Who doesn't love somebody who always says exactly what everyone wants to hear?
I'll admit that Second's segue there wasn't as annoying as his usual segue, and the insults were rather muted. It still didn't address the actual post I made though because he knows that I'm right.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
And that's because ...
SECONAL is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
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Russian elites met with NRA in lead-up to 2016 election
Prominent Russians were in contact with the National Rifle Association (NRA) during the lead-up to the 2016 election, McClatchy reported.
The Russians who met with NRA representatives during the 2016 presidential campaign included members of President Vladimir Putin's inner circle as well as the Russian Orthodox Church, according to the news outlet. Reportedly among the individuals identified are the former deputy prime minister overseeing Russia's defense industry, Dmitry Rogozin, and Sergei Rudov, the leader of the St. Basil the Great Charitable Foundation - one of Russia's largest philanthropies.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/russian-elites-met-with-nra-in
-lead-up-to-2016-election-report/ar-AAyvdI1
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