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Fux pimping Joe Millionaire on Food Network

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Saturday, December 28, 2002 2:26 AM

you guys crack me up. :)

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Saturday, December 28, 2002 3:05 AM

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"I wonder what would happen if someone put up an Anti-Joe Millionnaire website in protest."



Why? Because we want to appear to be the same vengeful "rabid" sci-fi fans like the Dark Angel Fans were?

I seem to recall many Firefly fans (myself included) shaking our heads at the Dark Angel fans blaming and doing their best to cripple the "replacing" show (Firefly).

Yeah, sure, let's come down the their level.

What's more, if somehow (however unlikely), firefly fans succeed in criplling "Joe M". That won't exactly endear us to FOX. When they are currently not standing in Joss Whedon's way in shopping around Firefly, they just might after such a stunt.

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Sunday, December 29, 2002 1:22 AM

I don't know if I've pointed out how disgusted I am with the mere idea of Joe Millionare. just felt like doing that.

Keep Flying!

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Sunday, December 29, 2002 10:27 AM

Must be deja vu. Hmm.

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Monday, December 30, 2002 8:38 PM

I've seen ads for JM everywhere, if fox had put HALF the advetising effort into Firefly..

Keep Flying!

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Monday, December 30, 2002 9:01 PM

Ain't that the truth. I spent the day yesterday doing laundry, so I got to see lots of lame ass TV... And I flipped around quite a bit. I lost track of how many times I saw ads for JoeM, and it seemed like it was on every single network I tuned in to: USA, TNT, FX (of course), comedy central, I even saw one on A&E. Come on folks, that's not even their demographic... why advertise there? I'm sure that they will get outstanding ratings for this horrific show, all six agonizing weeks of it.

I don't see how they can justify all that promotion for a show that won't even exist in six or seven weeks, and not spend any time or money promoting a show that could have been around for five, six, seven seasons... maybe more.

Fox sucks. I don't give a crap about firefly fans endearing themselves to them.

Sure, they are "letting" Joss pedal the show elsewhere... that's because Fox Broadcasting is a subsidiary of the fox production company. Fox production company continues to make money off the show only if Firefly finds a new home. Fox Broadcasting doesn't lose anything by "letting" Joss shop around for a new network, so they are doing it. I wouldn't let that idea paint a picture that Fox is being so generous with the show.

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Tuesday, December 31, 2002 3:39 AM

Heh heh - I had to post it on the enemy's website. Along with the question as to whether Reavers would eat Fox Execs or do even Reavers have a level of dignity they won't stoop beneath? Heh heh.

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Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by bobknaptor:
Sure, they are "letting" Joss pedal the show elsewhere... that's because Fox Broadcasting is a subsidiary of the fox production company. Fox production company continues to make money off the show only if Firefly finds a new home. Fox Broadcasting doesn't lose anything by "letting" Joss shop around for a new network, so they are doing it. I wouldn't let that idea paint a picture that Fox is being so generous with the show.



It doesn't matter whether FOX is really being nice or fake nice. It doesn't matter what their reasons are for letting firefly be shopped around (though the ones you stated are true).

What matters is that if firefly fans attempt the same vindictive "anti-replacing-show" campaign (well actually it's an "anti-more-promoted-show"), they are no better than the Dark Angel zealots who's behaviour disgusted firefly fans (myself included) before Firefly was about to air.

Firefly fan would be stopping down to their level. Proving, once again, that a rabid sci-fi fan is a rabid sci-fi fan no matter what show/creator/whatever.

And for what? What would the proposed "campaign" accomplish except, if successful (however unlikely), make FOX suddenly want to get vindictive with the fans (returning the favor).

Just what exactly would this campaign's goal be, that would outweigh being percieved as lunatic rabid vindictive fans, and possibly angering FOX?

Yes FOX sucks.
Yes Fox executives have no taste ("train job" in favor of "serenity" ... what the hell?)
Yes they screwed up by not promoting the show enough, airing the wrong episode as the pilot, preempting it at a critical time, and placing it in a proven death slot.

But you stil want them to WANT to shop firefly around.

Is the fans hatred toward FOX greater than their desire to keep firefly alive? Mine isn't!

Once Firefly is on UPN ... THEN go and cripple FOX in any way you want. But only once firefly's future is secure.

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Tuesday, December 31, 2002 6:28 PM

Alright - let's put this all into perspective.

As far as FOX is concerned - Firefly is dead. Period. It's not going to re-air on the FOX network. Like Dark Angel. As far as un-aired episodes, FOX has aleady swapped things around and filled the timeslot .... so those episodes are stuck back in their film canisters. FOX needs to ditch Fastlane and Boston Public (is it me, or have the plots on Boston Public just gotten stupid - started out with its first season with promise but clearly is running out of material) .... but Ryan from Star Trek Voyager fame keeps people watching.

We can write letters, send postcards, post rants and raves on Internet sites until the second coming of Christ.

And it won't do much good.

FOX could care less what the viewer wants. Fact of life. A lot of fans are going "it ain't over until Joss says its over" .... well, FOX said it's over and they're the ones with the money - not Joss. It's unlikely UPN will pick it up - they already have big budget Enterprise with a very loyal Trek Following. They don't need another sci-fi series. PAX has no budget - they're just a rerun network. The Big Three right now are in Reality Show / Brain-dead Comedy mode. And the WB? Ha. It's the BET of public TV - every character would have to be black before they'd air it. (I'm not racist or kidding - basically that's all the shows that the WB affiliates will air in our area.) I'm surprised Third Watch has lasted this long on NBC (they're even screwing up it's plot and characters so it probably isn't long for the airwaves either).

Rumors are that the Firefly cast has already split up to find other roles elsewhere.

Sigh - Firefly combined Westerns and Space - two themes I like. But its obvious FOX is going for the cheap, fast buck with moronic displays of incredible stupidity like Joe Millionaire. And because Joe is being pushed on cable - maybe FOX Execs are worried that it is soooo lame that it may fail and have to over-advertise to cover up a poor judgement call. At the very least, they could have gotten some more reasonably attractive women for it. Looks like they were scraping the very bottom of the barrel for those Darva Konger wannabes.

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Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:29 PM

GORRAMIT

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