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Sunday, June 3, 2018 7:48 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Here's a quarter. Go call somebody who cares.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

And that is why you lean Republican, 6ixStringJack. You don't care.



No. It's because Democrats focus on all the wrong things and say the same dumb rhetorical arguments over and over again while offering nothing to the people and getting nothing done.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, June 3, 2018 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Here's a quarter. Go call somebody who cares.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

And that is why you lean Republican, 6ixStringJack. You don't care.


No. It's because Democrats focus on all the wrong things and say the same dumb rhetorical arguments over and over again while offering nothing to the people and getting nothing done.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

But! Russia!
But! Stormy!
But! Tax Files!

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Monday, June 4, 2018 6:43 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
But! Russia!
But! Stormy!
But! Tax Files!

But! You are full of shit, JewelStaiteFan, as is failed presidential candidate Rick Santorum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Santorum#2016_presidential_run who couldn't compete with Trump as the biggest racist, but he does the best he can:

Rick Santorum on Sunday blamed former President Barack Obama for increasing racial tensions in the nation.

The former Republican senator from Pennsylvania and two-time presidential candidate made the comments during a panel discussion on CNN which included former Obama aide Karine Jean-Pierre.

Jean-Pierre said there was an “uproar” after Obama’s 2008 election as the nation’s first black president.

“And what Donald Trump did is he tapped into it because let’s not forget he started his political career talking about birtherism, being the spokesperson of birtherism,” she said, referring to the debunked conspiracy theory that claimed Obama wasn’t born in the United States.

“He saw something as well and tapped into that, tapped into that racism,” she said.

Santorum disagreed.

“What’s being ignored here is the role that Barack Obama played in all this,” he said. “I mean you just can’t go from well, we elected our first black president to all of a sudden we get Donald Trump. There was something in between those two things.”

Jean-Pierre interrupted to clarify that Obama’s election “tapped into something in this country.”

Santorum replied: “The thing it tapped into was that many, many, many people saw Barack Obama being just that, doing more to exacerbate racism in this country.”

“How?” asked Jean-Pierre. “What did he do?”

“Every time there was a controversy where someone in color was involved, he took the side of, many times, against the police ? he did it over and over and over again,” he said.

See the full discussion above. The comments about Obama begin at the 8-minute mark.

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rick-santorum-barack-obama-racism_us_5b14
97e2e4b0d5e89e20c8e1


His political career began in advocacy of birtherism, that modern recasting of the old American precept that black people are not fit to be citizens of the country they built. But long before birtherism, Trump had made his worldview clear. He fought to keep blacks out of his buildings, according to the U.S. government; called for the death penalty for the eventually exonerated Central Park Five; and railed against “lazy” black employees. “Black guys counting my money! I hate it,” Trump was once quoted as saying. “The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.” After his cabal of conspiracy theorists forced Barack Obama to present his birth certificate, Trump demanded the president’s college grades (offering $5 million in exchange for them), insisting that Obama was not intelligent enough to have gone to an Ivy League school, and that his acclaimed memoir, Dreams From My Father, had been ghostwritten by a white man, Bill Ayers.

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/10/the-first-white-president
-ta-nehisi-coates/537909
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, June 4, 2018 7:07 PM

Hey look. Another 10 paragraph unrelated segway with a quote and an insult to start it off.

If we can't say anything else good about you Second, at least you're consistent and predictable.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, June 4, 2018 8:21 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hey look. Another 10 paragraph unrelated segway with a quote and an insult to start it off.

If we can't say anything else good about you Second, at least you're consistent and predictable.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, you're consistent, having written: "No. It's because Democrats focus on all the wrong things and say the same dumb rhetorical arguments over and over again while offering nothing to the people and getting nothing done."

The consistent part, 6ix, is that you did not write "It's because Democrats and Republicans focus on all the wrong things . . ."

It is also consistent that 6ix didn't note the GOP passed a few bills, over the objections of 99% of the Democrats in Congress, and those GOP sponsored bills "offered nothing to the people". It is as if 6ix has no idea how the GOP screwed him. There is your insult for the day, 6ix. Now for the analysis: Without ever having met him in real life (but I have met men who are similar) I feel confident predicting that 6ix has in the past and will continue indefinitely into the future using his invincible ignorance on material questions about getting ahead in America to sabotage his own life. And he will continue to blame both Democrats and Republicans for his own failures, but mostly blame the Democrats. That is no way to go through life, 6ix, unless you want to stay on the bottom of the hierarchy, wandering the roads alone and unmarried in a crappy old vehicle until you die, with rotten teeth, decades younger than the average white male in Texas who has enough money to buy a good vehicle and to go to the dentist and the doctor once a year.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, June 4, 2018 9:06 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hey look. Another 10 paragraph unrelated segway with a quote and an insult to start it off.

If we can't say anything else good about you Second, at least you're consistent and predictable.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, you're consistent, having written: "No. It's because Democrats focus on all the wrong things and say the same dumb rhetorical arguments over and over again while offering nothing to the people and getting nothing done."

The consistent part, 6ix, is that you did not write "It's because Democrats and Republicans focus on all the wrong things . . ."

It is also consistent that 6ix didn't note the GOP passed a few bills, over the objections of 99% of the Democrats in Congress, and those GOP sponsored bills "offered nothing to the people". It is as if 6ix has no idea how the GOP screwed him. There is your insult for the day, 6ix. Now for the analysis: Without ever having met him in real life (but I have met men who are similar) I feel confident predicting that 6ix has in the past and will continue indefinitely into the future using his invincible ignorance on material questions about getting ahead in America to sabotage his own life. And he will continue to blame both Democrats and Republicans for his own failures, but mostly blame the Democrats. That is no way to go through life, 6ix, unless you want to stay on the bottom of the hierarchy, wandering the roads alone and unmarried in a crappy old vehicle until you die, with rotten teeth, decades younger than the average white male in Texas who has enough money to buy a good vehicle and to go to the dentist and the doctor once a year.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



We're all on the bottom of the hierarchy, Second. Nobody believes that you have any money either. The middle class is a dying dream, and it won't be too long until everybody here is much closer to the bottom with me.

If I woke up tomorrow and changed my mind on everything Politics and decided that the Democrats are completely right, as you suggest everybody should, just how is that going to change anything in my life?

As I've said before, I'm the only dynamic character on these boards. My life has improved immesurably in the last 18 months since I stopped drinking, and there isn't a politician or party that is responsible for any of these improvements. That's all me.

Getting a job that will help me crawl the rest of the way out of the hole I dug for myself is on my list of current goals, but since I'm making improvements everywhere else in my life I'm not looking at every day without a great job as a loss.

It is true. I don't like Democrats or Republicans. I just happen to like the former even less than the latter. Republicans at least aren't actively trying to make me feel bad for being born a white male, or telling me that I'm a bad person based off of my race. The Democrats today are as racist as they come.

Fix your party.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, June 5, 2018 1:04 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

We're all on the bottom of the hierarchy, Second. Nobody believes that you have any money either. The middle class is a dying dream, and it won't be too long until everybody here is much closer to the bottom with me.

If I woke up tomorrow and changed my mind on everything Politics and decided that the Democrats are completely right, as you suggest everybody should, just how is that going to change anything in my life?

If you are gonna disbelieve what I said about myself, I'm gonna start believing your teeth are perfect, you are not a recovered alcoholic, you are happily married with four beautiful children and are working a 40 hour week as a well-paid manager at a high tech company you love with a generous pension and health insurance.

Nothing changes for the better in lower 50% of the population because the GOP is the majority. When it is not, in 2 years it will swing back into a majority and undo everything the Democrats did. You are living in a nation designed by the GOP, not by Democrats.

Trump enjoys more support from his party at Day 500 than any other president since World War II, excluding 9/11 Bush.
https://qz.com/1295674

There are some Mormon Republicans and some of my Nebraska Republican relatives that disapprove of Trump, but the GOP is mostly unified. On the other hand, the things 6ixStringJack hates about the Democratic Party are the same things half of Democratic voters hate too. The Democrats aren’t unified about anything and are always fighting with themselves about every little detail. The relevant quote from 1935 is still true: "I am not a member of any organized political party; I am a Democrat."
www.brainyquote.com/authors/will_rogers

The Democrats are pointlessly beating up themselves and helping the GOP beat them. An example: www.vox.com/2018/6/4/17424748/clinton-lewinsky-resign-gillibrand
"Some see it as foolish for Democrats to try to hold themselves to a high standard of conduct when Republicans hold Trump to no standard at all."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, June 5, 2018 1:16 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
But! Russia!
But! Stormy!
But! Tax Files!

But! You are full of shit, JewelStaiteFan, as is failed presidential candidate Rick Santorum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Santorum#2016_presidential_run who couldn't compete with Trump as the biggest racist, but he does the best he can:

Rick Santorum on Sunday blamed former President Barack Obama for increasing racial tensions in the nation.

Aha! Now second provides clear definition: anybody who is capable of observing Obvious Truth and stating Obvious Fact is A RACIST!

Life is so confusing without Libtards Redefining words for us.

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Tuesday, June 5, 2018 3:51 AM

Maybe if the Democratic Party wasn't so toxic it would have more support.

As far as I lean towards Republicans today, I leaned towards Democrats when GWB was in office and I first joined this site.

Socially, I agree much more with Democrats on almost all core issues. My only real hangups there, as I've stated before, is that I don't agree with how they view guns and gun control, I don't agree with taxpayer funded abortions, and I don't agree with either party that men should have no say when it comes to the birth of a child.

I even agree with some fiscal views of Democrats. As I've said before in here I have no problems with food stamps, and I argue against anyone who calls people on them worthless. If we fix the economy and create more jobs that offer more than the government dole, most people would go back to work.

In the last decade plus though, the Democrats have become obsessed with identity politics. Maybe you really are rich and you don't see that or feel it because it doesn't effect you at all. As a white male, the Democratic Party in 2018 has made it very clear that I am the enemy, simply for the anatomy and the color of the skin I was born with.

I can't afford to actively vote against myself.

It must be nice to have so much that you don't feel that burden.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, June 5, 2018 10:58 AM

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Nothing changes for the better in lower 50% of the population because the GOP ...Democrats ... politicians elite is the majority in power.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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