CIA - get rid of those disloyal to "the President"
POSTED BY: Ghoulman
UPDATED: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 18:51
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Personally, Uncle Toms like Colin Powell don't impress me at all.
I can understand that. Son of immigrants, coming from a poor family in New York, struggling to college on a scholarship, rising to the highest post in the American Armed Forces, serving with distiction in war and peace, rising to the highest post ever held by an African American, Secretary of State and 4th in line to the Presidency.
Just another 'house ni**er' to you. Just like Rice.
No amount of education or achievment in their chosen field and political affiliation will ever change the fact that you see them that way. You may not wear a white sheet, but I bet you'd fit one really well.
Quite well said Hero.
Quite well said indeed. It does have the ring of truth does'nt it?
I'm a racist? You guys need to check what Uncle Tom means.
... and get a room! Sheesh!
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Hero- "Originally posted by SignyM:
Personally, Uncle Toms like Colin Powell don't impress me at all."
You mis-attributed this quote to me. But to put it in more PC language, I think that Colin Powell, and his son Michael Powell (Chair of the FCC) belong in the same ethical category as Condi Rice, Clarence Thomas and Earl Ofari Hutchinson.
I noticed news came out late Wenesday evening that two more top-ranking CIA people resigned. The timing of the news was the day before a long holiday weekend- long enough to let the dust settle by Monday, which is when the full press corps reports to work, cup of coffee in hand.
The other thing that I noticed is that two Congressional Republicans blocked the CIA reform bill at Rummy's request, clearing the way for the Prezdent to work hiw own magic on that agency w/o interference from Congress.
Now a truly cynical person might say that it is very dangerous to actually remove influential members from your own Praetorian Guard. It might be much safer to keep them closer at hand and under detailed scrutiny.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Now a truly cynical person might say that it is very dangerous to actually remove influential members from your own Praetorian Guard. It might be much safer to keep them closer at hand and under detailed scrutiny.
I think Powell probably had to sign secrecy agreements above and beyond whatever the norm would be; this administration fights transparency.
A truly cynical person would say he probably had to sign those documents dipping a quill into a cup of his own blood, and then he had to drink the rest.
Maybe too much Buffy/Angel for me...
There is no such thing as a weed.
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Unicorn- I'd say not enough Buffy and Angel, that's what I'd say!!
As always, I appreciate your posts.
By Monday, everyone will have forgotten that the CIA is being remade under our very noses. It's like the US suffers from collective amnesia.
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Report: CIA paints bleak Iraq picture
Tuesday, December 7, 2004
NEW YORK (Reuters) -- The situation in Iraq is unlikely to improve anytime soon, according to a classified cable and briefings from the Central Intelligence Agency, The New York Times reported Tuesday.
The assessments are more pessimistic than the Bush administration's portrayal of the situation to the public, government officials told the newspaper.
The classified cable -- sent last month by the CIA's station chief in Baghdad after the completion of a one-year tour of duty there -- painted a bleak picture of Iraq's politics, economics and security and reiterated briefings by Michael Kostiw, a senior CIA official, according to the Times.
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This is just one of several classified, highly pessimistic CIA reports that have found their way into the press. Another signifcant leak was the CIA report that predicted either more of the same as the BEST possible outcome in Iraq, and civil war as the worst possible outcome.
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I have said it before many times and I'll say it again: There is a power struggle going on between the neocons and the CIA. The neocons blamed the CIA for supplying "bad intelligence" when in fact it was neocon cherry-picking that got us into this mess, and the neocons outed undercover CIA officer Valerie Plame as a reward for being supplied with good intelligence that contradicted their political agenda. (Why oh why doesn't the media seem to pick up on the fact that this is TREASON/? I mean, for cying out loud, how many MONTHS did we hear about Monica Lewinsky as if she was the most imporant person in the world??)
Watch the "intelligence reform" closely. Rummy didn't want to see it go thru because it would have taken budgetary power away from his military intelligence arena. So he held it up in Congress- (stabbing George "the sock puppet" Bush in the back in the process) by talking to Hunter and Sensenbrenner. Then promised "the sock" that he'd support the bill if he got to keep his job. The outcome of the reform will partially determine if "the sock" goes forward blindly, continuing our foreign affairs along the same disasterous lines as before, or if he has a reliable source of intelligence (not Rummy or Cheney) to work with.
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A Veteran Saudi Power Player Works To Build Support to Topple Assad
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323423804579024452583045
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Officials inside the Central Intelligence Agency knew that Saudi Arabia was serious about toppling Syrian President Bashar al-Assad when the Saudi king named Prince Bandar bin Sultan al-Saud to lead the effort.
They believed that Prince Bandar, a veteran of the diplomatic intrigues of Washington and the Arab world, could deliver what the CIA couldn't: planeloads of money and arms, and, as one U.S. diplomat put it, wasta, Arabic for under-the-table clout.
Prince Bandar—for two decades one of the most influential deal makers in Washington as Saudi ambassador but who had largely disappeared from public view—is now reprising his role as a geopolitical operator. This time it is to advance the Saudi kingdom's top foreign-policy goal, defeating Syrian President Assad and his Iranian and Hezbollah allies.
Prince Bandar has been jetting from covert command centers near the Syrian front lines to the Élysée Palace in Paris and the Kremlin in Moscow, seeking to undermine the Assad regime, according to Arab, American and European officials.
Meanwhile, an influential protégé, current Saudi Ambassador to Washington Adel al-Jubeir, is leading a parallel campaign to coax Congress and a reluctant Obama administration to expand the U.S. role in Syria.
The conflict there has become a proxy war for Middle East factions, and Saudi Arabia's efforts in Syria are just one sign of its broader effort to expand its regional influence. The Saudis also have been outspoken supporters of the Egyptian military in its drive to squelch the Muslim Brotherhood, backing that up with big chunks of cash.
The Saudi lobbying is part of the calculus as the U.S. weighs its options in the wake of a suspected chemical attack last week. Damascus suburbs allegedly targeted are at the heart of what the Saudis now call their "southern strategy" for strengthening rebels in towns east and south of the capital.
As part of that, intelligence agents from Saudi Arabia, the U.S., Jordan and other allied states are working at a secret joint operations center in Jordan to train and arm handpicked Syrian rebels, according to current and former U.S. and Middle Eastern officials.
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