Isreal bombs Syria
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Looks like T snuck in a thread title 2 days ago, different from from the title of his duplicate thread on the 10th.
Quote:Anyway, any further word on the accurate chronology?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Any further word?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:OK. I didn't get that from the PMS link. Shocking that PMS wouldn't report the news accurately. Just shocking I say.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:The way it looks so far, Israel launched rockets into Syria, some Syrian entity launched rockets into the (Israeli-occupied) Golan Heights, then Israel used that action to fire missiles into Syria. Still waiting to get a credible timeline.
Syria launching missiles to land in the Golan Heights part of Syria?
Thanks for fixing the linky.
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Somewhere, KIKI commented that it looks like Trump has delegated the anti-Iran campaign to Israel, which has caused Russia to back up (not give Syria S300s, not actively shoot Israeli jets out of the sky) in order to avoid a confrontation.
So I'm just going to pass along "Dave's" comments from his X22 report. In his view, the mideast is being actively divided up between Russia, the USA, Israel, and Iran. Russia will (he says) ask Iran to leave Syria, which will remove any excuse that Israel might use to bomb Syria, and Russia will protect the southern end of Syria itself. At the same time, Iraq will ask USA troops to leave, but Iranian troops presumably will stay in place. This answers Israel's security issues, at least as far as Iran is concerned. Qatar is nestled comfortably with Iranian gas interests, and still has a large American base on its soil.
I have no idea what Saudi Arabia's security issues will look like. As far as I can tell, Saudi Arabia is an aggressor state, but its real insecurity comes from its reliance on the petrodollar. It looks to me like MbS was trying to develop Saudi Arabia in a different direction; but I'm still not convinced that he survived the coup attempt.
If you want to hear what "Dave" thinks, you can listen for yourself. I should probably put this in the "predictions" thread, but ... oh well.
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Sig you're not just a Russian troll, you're also a whack.
T 
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Quote:Dood, did I say I BELIEVED what Dave says? It's time to get out the (mental) popcorn, put your emotions on ice, and just let this all sift into the "interesting if true" pile.
Sig you're not just a Russian troll, you're also a whack. - THUGR
But, so far, many whacko things that "Dave" has predicted have come true, so I figure more ears listening will help us figure out if he really has some intel connection somewhere. Or not.
But since you apparently can't think, and have nothing useful to add to the thread, all I can say is
Hey, thanks for the bump!
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As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Somewhere, KIKI commented that it looks like Trump has delegated the anti-Iran campaign to Israel, which has caused Russia to back up (not give Syria S300s, not actively shoot Israeli jets out of the sky) in order to avoid a confrontation.
So I'm just going to pass along "Dave's" comments from his X22 report. In his view, the mideast is being actively divided up between Russia, the USA, Israel, and Iran. Russia will (he says) ask Iran to leave Syria, which will remove any excuse that Israel might use to bomb Syria, and Russia will protect the southern end of Syria itself. At the same time, Iraq will ask USA troops to leave, but Iranian troops presumably will stay in place. This answers Israel's security issues, at least as far as Iran is concerned. Qatar is nestled comfortably with Iranian gas interests, and still has a large American base on its soil.
I have no idea what Saudi Arabia's security issues will look like. As far as I can tell, Saudi Arabia is an aggressor state, but its real insecurity comes from its reliance on the petrodollar. It looks to me like MbS was trying to develop Saudi Arabia in a different direction; but I'm still not convinced that he survived the coup attempt.
If you want to hear what "Dave" thinks, you can listen for yourself. I should probably put this in the "predictions" thread, but ... oh well.
Quote:Is this delegation/division concept something new? Or has he been developing it for awhile?
Any thoughts, by you or others, if this might result in less Middle East bloodshed?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Dood, did I say I BELIEVED what Dave says? It's time to get out the (mental) popcorn, put your emotions on ice, and just let this all sift into the "interesting if true" pile.
Sig you're not just a Russian troll, you're also a whack. - THUGR
Posting whacko shit and saying you didn't say you believed it yourself, is the same as Trump making false, bullshit and racist statements and saying he is only repeating someone else.
It's a way to deflect from the facts and is trolling comrade. It's done because you've already lost the argument and can't dispute the facts. Therefore, you post like a troll. And you post other trolls bullshit. Like zerohedge to name one. Dave's shit to name another.
tick tock dummy
T
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Quote:"Dave" has been saying this, or some version of it, for over a month. Another (related) thing that he's said about the Mideast is that Trump is dismantling CIA operations throughout: cutting funding for the so-called "moderate rebels" and White Helmets, allying with MbS - who pulled the rug out from under the entire CIA-friendly coterie in Saudi Arabia shortly after Trump's visit, and making such a political row with Pakistan that they no longer protect CIA's running Afghani opium thru their territory. I honestly can't remember everything that "Dave" says, but he is adamant that Trump is NOT a neocon, and that all of the kerfuffles are mere distractions and attempts to trace which deep state neocon is pulling who's political string.
Is this delegation/division concept something new? Or has he been developing it for awhile? - JSF
Quote:Supposedly yes. The most bloodshed comes in when there is a power vacuum. Saudi Arabia and the CIA and their jihadist proxies have been busy toppling governments throughout, but not able to establish new power structures. Once acceptable borders are drawn - for example, Iran withdraws from southern Syria (BTW there are talks going on between Iran and Israel right now) and the USA withdraws from Syria - then the Syrian government can get back to being a government under a new Constitutional structure (which is being discussed with the UN right now).
Any thoughts, by you or others, if this might result in less Middle East bloodshed?- JSF
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As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
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Quote:I have heard many times that Middle East Muslims are disparately Tribal, and fully resist regional coordination or national Unity. Are these all expected to work together with coalition or Allied groups? Is there an explanation of this macrocosm model? It just seems too unbelievable to gel in my head without further understanding.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:"Dave" has been saying this, or some version of it, for over a month. Another (related) thing that he's said about the Mideast is that Trump is dismantling CIA operations throughout: cutting funding for the so-called "moderate rebels" and White Helmets, allying with MbS - who pulled the rug out from under the entire CIA-friendly coterie in Saudi Arabia shortly after Trump's visit, and making such a political row with Pakistan that they no longer protect CIA's running Afghani opium thru their territory. I honestly can't remember everything that "Dave" says, but he is adamant that Trump is NOT a neocon, and that all of the kerfuffles are mere distractions and attempts to trace which deep state neocon is pulling who's political string.
Is this delegation/division concept something new? Or has he been developing it for awhile? - JSFQuote:Supposedly yes. The most bloodshed comes in when there is a power vacuum. Saudi Arabia and the CIA and their jihadist proxies have been busy toppling governments throughout, but not able to establish new power structures. Once acceptable borders are drawn - for example, Iran withdraws from southern Syria (BTW there are talks going on between Iran and Israel right now) and the USA withdraws from Syria - then the Syrian government can get back to being a government under a new Constitutional structure (which is being discussed with the UN right now).
Any thoughts, by you or others, if this might result in less Middle East bloodshed?- JSF
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Syria's crackdown on protesters becomes dramatically more brutal. Tanks and troops enter towns and villages for the first time as scores of people are reportedly killed across Syria
The Syrian government's brutal crackdown on pro-democracy demonstrations has escalated dramatically, with tanks rolling on to the streets for the first time and troops reported to have opened fire in several towns and villages across the country.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/25/syria-crackdown-proteste
rs-brutal
This is how it began in Syria. Let's not forget and get confused by SIG's pro Russian bullshit.
T
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Quote:SOME governments ... like Libya's, Syria's, Afghanistan's (in the late 70s), and Lebanon's.... are/were primarily secular. Assad himself is a religious minority (Allawite) and has protected the rights of religious minorities - Orthodox Xtians, Druze, Yazidis, Shias etc. Also, there are many ethnicities there too ... Arabs, Turks, Assyrians, etc. Until the takfiri invasion, it was going about as well as can be expected. You will probably find the same in Qatar, since they seem to have to barrier to working with Shias.
I have heard many times that Middle East Muslims are disparately Tribal, and fully resist regional coordination or national Unity. Are these all expected to work together with coalition or Allied groups? Is there an explanation of this macrocosm model? It just seems too unbelievable to gel in my head without further understanding.
OTOH, Saudi Arabia has been pushing its fundamentalist Wahhabism for over 40 years by building and fundings it madrasas all throughout the Mideast and North Africa (MENA), and by funding its proxy army of terrorists, and has seriously infected part of Africa, most of the Gulf states, and Pakistan. I remember, when I was a teen, that Pakistan was a modern secular state, and now its under the control of religious nutjobs.
Just as an aside, did you notice how WE managed to destroy MOST of the secular nations in the Mideast, and have fostered the most religiously intolerant? In Afghanistan we helped the "freedom fighters" aka "mujahideen" aka "jihadists", and we fund Israel and Saudi Arabia. What does that say about our goals in the Mideast?
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As long as the CIA is not attempting to destabilize the Mideast by fostering divisions within each nation ("revolutions" are their favorite tool, they leave "invasions" for the military) AND the leaders of these nations are getting their arms twisted into being leaders for the entire nation and not just for their tribe, they should do OK.
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As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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