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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Oh, that photo? Too bad it was taken in 2014. When, yanno, OBAMA was President!
he is a SERIOUS RACIST and keeps children in cages.- GSTRING
So, Obama is racist, you say?
Yes, I assumed that photo was from now. It fits with so much of Trump's behavior + John Kelley's "we'll house them... somewhere" and Trump's comments on people from "shit holes" and commenting that some of the people who marched for KKK were "good people" and the Muslim ban - yanno the acts of a racist - convinced me. He is a racist of the highest order and not getting the provenance of a photo right won't change that. And please, do you think Trump has upgraded those facilities? So if you think Obama was a racist then you also think Trump is one. Your turn.
That photo exists because recently, perhaps during the primaries, children not accompanied by adults came here by the tens of thousands. Mostly from El Salvador I think. Anyone besides me remember that?
Health and Human Services was tasked with finding beds for them. They not only did not have a budget that would cover the cost, they did not have the housing. They had to find or create it as fast and however they could. This was in no way Obama needlessly or maliciously separating children from their parents. It was done as humanly as possible at the time. It did make for a bad photo opt though.
Those here always defending Trump G are devoid of class.
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Those here always defending Trump G are void of class.
The word you're looking for, genius, is devoid.
A pretty comical statement coming from you.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I'm going to get more huffy than usual, but I want you to know what I think, and why.
As I mentioned in another thread, for about the past couple of years we hired a homeless guy to do our gardening. We paid him $20 an hour, coffee or cold Powerade in the AM depending on how hot the morning, lunch with us at the kitchen table, cold Powerade in the afternoon. When his bicycle (his main mode of transportation) was stolen from our driveway we bought him another. We would give him things or extra money from time to time. It wasn't much; it was really a kind of pitiful lifeline, but I got to know him rather well chatting at lunch. I can't imagine living under the circumstances that he was living under.
And then, listening to NPR, there are the complaints of the illegal immigrants ... people taken into custody who didn't get good food. Or didn't get good prenatal care. Or didn't get to see a dentist, or their family, or a lawyer and I though Yeah, I know it's terrible but ... What the FUCK!?!!? We treat illegal immigrants BETTER than our own citizens, who we allow to live under the worst circumstances, without medical or vision or dental care (you should see this guy's teeth) ... why in hell are we so anxious to cater to people who have crossed our border, who we didn't invite, when we allow our own citizens to fester and die under underpasses and in riverbeds?
So you'll excuse me if I don't cry ... oh boo hoo ... for illegal immigrants. Let's take care of our own first. And BTW, do you know what this homeless guy (who is, BTW, of Hispanic origin and who speaks fluent Spanish) said? He said: I've heard them talk, how you come over the border and have a couple of kids and get on welfare. So yeah, no more "anchor babies" either.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
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Well there's your problem right there. You assume Trump is a racist.
I assume he's a racist based on his racist behavior.
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You assume that Trump is a "liar" (and then break logic in order to demonstrate it).
He's a liar based on his constant, demonstrable lying.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You assume that Trump is in the hands of RUSSIA!!!
He definitely has a quid pro quo relationship with Russia. First he lied about having any dealings in Russia. Then - amongst many other connections - he held off applying sanctions on Russia against the will of the Republican majority congress. He definitely is beholding to them in some way.
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You assume that Trump didn't "do" anything.
He's done things, and many of them are anti-American in spirit imho.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You assume that I'm a Trump supporter and/or a Russian supporter.
Yes! Ding! You got one right!
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Screening immigrants from jihadist-ridden failed states with sketchy documentation isn't "racism" either.
Who said it was?
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And do you know what? There are nations that ARE shitholes ... not only are they corrupt, they're poverty-stricken.
No - they are most definitely not shit holes. Except maybe to you from your whole-house-wifi California mansion with a gardner point of view. Must be nice to have so much. Makes it easy to look down on others without any guilt I guess, just arrogance. Just hire a non-white person and share a sandwich and give them a bowl of water and poof! You're conscience is clean!
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Trump’s not a liar. He’s a madman.
"Even by President Trump’s standards, this Memorial Day weekend was memorable for the sheer volume of balderdash, bunk, poppycock and patent nonsense flowing from the White House.
Balderdash: Trump went after the “failing and corrupt” New York Times for citing a senior White House official “who doesn’t exist” and admonished the newspaper to “use real people, not phony sources.” It turned out the senior official in question had spoken at a White House briefing arranged by Trump’s aides and attended by dozens of reporters.
Bunk: Trump attacked “the 13 Angry Democrats” working for Robert S. Mueller III, apparently referring to prior party registration. But Mueller himself is a Republican, appointed by a Republican who was himself appointed by Trump.
Poppycock: He called for “pressure on the Democrats to end the horrible law that separates children from there [sic] parents once they cross the Border into the U.S.” There is no such law, and Attorney General Jeff Sessions has acknowledged that family separation “inevitably” results from Trump’s “zero-tolerance” enforcement policy.
Patent nonsense: “Who’s going to give back the young and beautiful lives (and others) that have been devastated and destroyed by the phony Russia Collusion Witch Hunt?” Trump asked. I can picture the GoFundMe campaign: “Paul Manafort, a young and beautiful 69-year-old, had a promising career ahead of him selling access to the White House before he was cruelly indicted .?.?. ”
Early in this weekend’s monsoon of malarkey, New York Times White House reporter Maggie Haberman tweeted that Trump told “demonstrable falsehoods” — and she was roundly ridiculed on Twitter for failing to say Trump was lying. She defended herself by saying Trump’s pronouncements “can be hard to label” because “he often thinks whatever he says is what’s real.”
Haberman is right, but there’s another reason not to label Trump’s untruths “lies”: Calling him a liar lets him off easy. A liar, by definition, knows he’s not telling the truth. Trump’s behavior is worse: With each day it becomes more obvious he can’t distinguish between fact and fantasy. It’s an illness, and it’s spreading.
I’ve been writing for two years about his seeming inability to separate truth from falsehood: from his claim that he opposed the Iraq War to his belief that his rainy inauguration was “really sunny.” The man who ghostwrote Trump’s “Art of the Deal” marveled at Trump’s “ability to convince himself that whatever he is saying at any given moment is true.”
Trump has acknowledged as much himself. In a 2007 deposition — he was suing author Timothy O’Brien for asserting that Trump’s net worth wasn’t in the billions but in the range of $150 million to $250 million — Trump was asked how he calculates his net worth.
“My net worth fluctuates,” Trump said, “and it goes up and down with the markets and with attitudes and with feelings, even my own feelings. .?.?. I would say it’s my general attitude at the time that the question may be asked.”
Of course, Trump’s “feelings” don’t change his net worth any more than they change the weather. That he thinks they do is his problem — and ours.
Writing last week for NBCNews.com, a professor of cognitive neuroscience at University College London, along with a researcher, offered an explanation for Trump’s mendacity.
Noting that the daily average number of Trump falsehoods has been rising since he took office (as measured by The Post’s Fact Checker), the professor, Tali Sharot, pointed to the biological process of “emotional adaptation.” People tend to feel uncomfortable when they tell lies, but research has found that the discomfort is reduced each time a person lies — thereby increasing the frequency of lies.
Trump’s fictions are so pain-free that they may not feel like lies to him — honestly. And, ominously, they may seem less glaring to others over time. Sharot noted that people “may desensitize to the president’s falsehoods in the same way that they do
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Quote:Such as ??? Oh yeah, that's right:
Well there's your problem right there. You assume Trump is a racist. - GSTRING
I assume he's a racist based on his racist behavior.
Quote:Not racist, nationalist. Dealing with a flood of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. And last I checked, citizenship status was not a "race".
+ John Kelley's "we'll house them... somewhere"
Quote:Not racist, unless he tied the "shithole" status to the "race" of its population, and I don't think he did. You might have, tho!
and Trump's comments on people from "shit holes"
Quote:Links please?
And commenting that some of the people who marched for KKK were "good people"
Quote:Not a ban on "Muslims". If it were, then Xtians from Syria would get a free pass and yanno what? THEY DON'T. Also, last time I checked ... RELIGION IS NOT A "RACE".
and the Muslim ban - yanno the acts of a racist
Quote:Which you have not be able to actually ... what's that word? ... demonstrate.
You assume that Trump is a "liar" (and then break logic in order to demonstrate it).- SIGNY
He's a liar based on his constant, demonstrable lying- GSTRING
Quote:It was HIS POLICY DECISION. It was part of many of his stump speeches. It was NOT some secret hidden agenda. People voted for him anyway But I see that you assume that half of the voting population was "wrong", because you just can't believe that they would know that about Trump's POV and vote for him anyway (or maybe even because of).
You assume that Trump is in the hands of RUSSIA!!! - SIGNY
He definitely has a quid pro quo relationship with Russia. First he lied about having any dealings in Russia. Then - amongst many other connections - he held off applying sanctions on Russia against the will of the Republican majority congress. He definitely is beholding to them in some way.- GSTRING
Quote:Anti-American? By defending our borders? By placing our economic interests above China's? Well, in any case, you backwardly admit that your insinuation was wrong.
You assume that Trump didn't "do" anything. - SIGNY
He's done things, and many of them are anti-American in spirit imho.- GSTRING
Quote:Well, you're wrong. I agree with about half of the things Trump has done. I disagree with about half of the things Trump has done. I happen to think that the positive half is more important than the negative half, and am willing to fight policy disagreements at the state and local level if they can't be addressed at the national level.
You assume that I'm a Trump supporter and/or a Russian supporter. - SIGNY
Yes! Ding! You got one right!- GSTRING
Quote:HAHAHA! YOU did! And I quote ...
Screening immigrants from jihadist-ridden failed states with sketchy documentation isn't "racism" either. - SIGNY
Who said it was? - GSTRING
Quote:Apparently, you don't even know what you yourself posted.
It fits with so much of Trump's behavior ... and the Muslim ban - yanno the acts of a racist
Quote:Even the people who live there think that they're shit holes. They know that their nations need a LOT of improvement... more decent jobs, better educational opportunities, better security, infrastructure. They rightly tie their lack of progress to the corruption of their politicians, who help the EU, the USA, and the banks bleed them dry. They don't tie it to their race, tho.
And do you know what? There are nations that ARE shitholes ... not only are they corrupt, they're poverty-stricken.- SIGNY
No - they are most definitely not shit holes.- GSTRING
Yanno, GSTRING, if we can recognize that there are nations where we might like to live ... Denmark, Switzerland, Norway .... then we SHOULD (if we are being at all realistic) recognize that there are nations on the other end of the
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I'm wondering how long G is going to keep up this stupid line of thought?
Going on days now of just posting the same stupid bullshit over and over again.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I dunno. GSTRING has his very strong assumptions. The only other people who are just as bad are JO and THUGR. Personally, I think the topic has been beaten to death; so unless something new comes up I prolly won't respond.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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I actually respect J0 though. We might not agree on a lot, but he's actually trying to do something about it. He seems to have come around to how bad the Democratic party is now these days as well. Neither side is any good.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm wondering how long G is going to keep up this stupid line of thought?
Going on days now of just posting the same stupid bullshit over and over again.
Which "stupid bullshit?"
The, "Trump is a racist lying sack of shit?" part?
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