Cinema

Wind River

POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Thursday, March 7, 2019 07:26
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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, April 29, 2018 1:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
But really not sure. Nice of the writers to give whoever that guy was who was helping the Fed an Arapaho ex-wife, forgetting that half of the real Wind River reservation is occupied by the Shoshone.

Also typical Fed walking on to a reservation and expecting it to operate like the rest of the outside world. Graham Greene's character was surprised at even getting sniff of help. But then reservation land is Federal land and so that explains that.

The writer went looking for statistics on missing Native American women and couldn't find any.

There is a big difference between Canada and the US. At least in Canada the RCMP and others try to keep statistics on missing First Nations women and girls.

This movie rankled me as it proves once again that we don't count.

I will also add that I was very glad when that tracker let the main ba$tard die like the young woman. A fitting end to his miserable life.

Is it accurate that the rest of Wind River is Arapaho?

Does RCMP have authority over First Nations, or do they need to wait for Tribal Police to provide the information?

The Fed was out of her depth and was responding on short notice. Everybody else was working to set her straight, if she would listen.

I believe the writer-director was intentionally paying tribute to the lost women, and exposing the tragedy.

I liked how Greene and Olsen negotiated and navigated the boundaries and interaction, as well as the Fish & Wildlife Service guy engaging with both.

I felt it fitting when he let Martin know that nobody was missing, at the end.

Martin and Natalie are both in Yellowstone as well.

The subtitles seemed to work well.

BRENDA

Monday, April 30, 2018 10:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
But really not sure. Nice of the writers to give whoever that guy was who was helping the Fed an Arapaho ex-wife, forgetting that half of the real Wind River reservation is occupied by the Shoshone.

Also typical Fed walking on to a reservation and expecting it to operate like the rest of the outside world. Graham Greene's character was surprised at even getting sniff of help. But then reservation land is Federal land and so that explains that.

The writer went looking for statistics on missing Native American women and couldn't find any.

There is a big difference between Canada and the US. At least in Canada the RCMP and others try to keep statistics on missing First Nations women and girls.

This movie rankled me as it proves once again that we don't count.

I will also add that I was very glad when that tracker let the main ba$tard die like the young woman. A fitting end to his miserable life.
Quote:
Is it accurate that the rest of Wind River is Arapaho?

I have known about that for years. But you can google it JSF as it is verifiable. Just look up Wind River reservation and it will tell you that half is Shoshone (mine) and the other is Arapaho.

Quote:
Does RCMP have authority over First Nations, or do they need to wait for Tribal Police to provide the information?

Reservation land in Canada is Federal land and they can I think go onto it if called or looking for evidence of a crime. But not all tribes in Canada have a police force. I had to look this information up. One place in BC does. There are 3 in Alberta, 1 in Saskatchewan, 1 in Manitoba, in Ontario there is one First Nations police force for the whole province, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, NWT(Northwest Territories), Nunavut, Newfoundland, Quebec there is one for the Cree, EEPF which covers a good portion of that province then 4 other forces, Yukon as well. Also there are programs in the cities for First Nations who live off the reserve.

Quote:
The Fed was out of her depth and was responding on short notice. Everybody else was working to set her straight, if she would listen.

I know she was but you can still haul a laptop and do a little research on a plane flight. So, I will not give her a pass.

Quote:
I believe the writer-director was intentionally paying tribute to the lost women, and exposing the tragedy.

The writer was and I applaud them for doing it. It would seem to be a subject that needs to be discussed.

Quote:
I liked how Greene and Olsen negotiated and navigated the boundaries and interaction, as well as the Fish & Wildlife Service guy engaging with both.

I liked the acting too. It was also well written.

Quote:
I felt it fitting when he let Martin know that nobody was missing, at the end.

It was and as I said I'm glad he let the ba$tard die like the girl did.

Quote:
Martin and Natalie are both in Yellowstone as well.

The subtitles seemed to work well.

I've not seen Yellowstone and I didn't use the subtitles.

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, May 1, 2018 3:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
But really not sure. Nice of the writers to give whoever that guy was who was helping the Fed an Arapaho ex-wife, forgetting that half of the real Wind River reservation is occupied by the Shoshone.

Also typical Fed walking on to a reservation and expecting it to operate like the rest of the outside world. Graham Greene's character was surprised at even getting sniff of help. But then reservation land is Federal land and so that explains that.

The writer went looking for statistics on missing Native American women and couldn't find any.

There is a big difference between Canada and the US. At least in Canada the RCMP and others try to keep statistics on missing First Nations women and girls.

This movie rankled me as it proves once again that we don't count.

I will also add that I was very glad when that tracker let the main ba$tard die like the young woman. A fitting end to his miserable life.
Is it accurate that the rest of Wind River is Arapaho?
I have known about that for years. But you can google it JSF as it is verifiable. Just look up Wind River reservation and it will tell you that half is Shoshone (mine) and the other is Arapaho.
Quote:
Does RCMP have authority over First Nations, or do they need to wait for Tribal Police to provide the information?
Reservation land in Canada is Federal land and they can I think go onto it if called or looking for evidence of a crime. But not all tribes in Canada have a police force. I had to look this information up. One place in BC does. There are 3 in Alberta, 1 in Saskatchewan, 1 in Manitoba, in Ontario there is one First Nations police force for the whole province, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, NWT(Northwest Territories), Nunavut, Newfoundland, Quebec there is one for the Cree, EEPF which covers a good portion of that province then 4 other forces, Yukon as well. Also there are programs in the cities for First Nations who live off the reserve.
Quote:
The Fed was out of her depth and was responding on short notice. Everybody else was working to set her straight, if she would listen.
I know she was but you can still haul a laptop and do a little research on a plane flight. So, I will not give her a pass.
Quote:
I believe the writer-director was intentionally paying tribute to the lost women, and exposing the tragedy.
The writer was and I applaud them for doing it. It would seem to be a subject that needs to be discussed.
Quote:
I liked how Greene and Olsen negotiated and navigated the boundaries and interaction, as well as the Fish & Wildlife Service guy engaging with both.
I liked the acting too. It was also well written.
Quote:
I felt it fitting when he let Martin know that nobody was missing, at the end.
It was and as I said I'm glad he let the ba$tard die like the girl did.
Quote:
Martin and Natalie are both in Yellowstone as well.

The subtitles seemed to work well.
I've not seen Yellowstone and I didn't use the subtitles.

Yellowstone is an upcoming TV miniseries.

Watching Wind River again, I am reminded that FBI Jane was not even supposed to hang around past the autopsy. She only stayed because the murder would not be solved without her, and everybody knew it.

For scriptwriters, a character is needed who must have everything explained to them. Often this is some newbie person in a unit, office, work or clich or partnership. They must exist for much of the story background to be explained to the audience without getting preachy or teachy. Jane fills in that role for some of this. So she needs to know not much more than us.

So Tribal Police in Canada track and disclose missing women information? Or RCMP does?

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, May 1, 2018 4:19 PM

I still really enjoy this film, the best of last year I think.
I don't recall how many times I've seen it, but it's still quite powerful. Very difficult to stop watching it.

I also keep forgetting the producer was Peter Berg. Following his work is rewarding.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, May 1, 2018 5:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I had forgotten that our Agent McGinnis (Blake Robbins) was also in Wind River. His role is Tim Winter.

I didn't notice in cinema because his scene was deleted, just saw his name in credits.
The DVD has his scene, "Sounds Like Wolves" and you'll recognize his voice right off.

BRENDA

Wednesday, May 2, 2018 5:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
But really not sure. Nice of the writers to give whoever that guy was who was helping the Fed an Arapaho ex-wife, forgetting that half of the real Wind River reservation is occupied by the Shoshone.

Also typical Fed walking on to a reservation and expecting it to operate like the rest of the outside world. Graham Greene's character was surprised at even getting sniff of help. But then reservation land is Federal land and so that explains that.

The writer went looking for statistics on missing Native American women and couldn't find any.

There is a big difference between Canada and the US. At least in Canada the RCMP and others try to keep statistics on missing First Nations women and girls.

This movie rankled me as it proves once again that we don't count.

I will also add that I was very glad when that tracker let the main ba$tard die like the young woman. A fitting end to his miserable life.
Is it accurate that the rest of Wind River is Arapaho?
I have known about that for years. But you can google it JSF as it is verifiable. Just look up Wind River reservation and it will tell you that half is Shoshone (mine) and the other is Arapaho.
Quote:
Does RCMP have authority over First Nations, or do they need to wait for Tribal Police to provide the information?
Reservation land in Canada is Federal land and they can I think go onto it if called or looking for evidence of a crime. But not all tribes in Canada have a police force. I had to look this information up. One place in BC does. There are 3 in Alberta, 1 in Saskatchewan, 1 in Manitoba, in Ontario there is one First Nations police force for the whole province, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, NWT(Northwest Territories), Nunavut, Newfoundland, Quebec there is one for the Cree, EEPF which covers a good portion of that province then 4 other forces, Yukon as well. Also there are programs in the cities for First Nations who live off the reserve.
Quote:
The Fed was out of her depth and was responding on short notice. Everybody else was working to set her straight, if she would listen.
I know she was but you can still haul a laptop and do a little research on a plane flight. So, I will not give her a pass.
Quote:
I believe the writer-director was intentionally paying tribute to the lost women, and exposing the tragedy.
The writer was and I applaud them for doing it. It would seem to be a subject that needs to be discussed.
Quote:
I liked how Greene and Olsen negotiated and navigated the boundaries and interaction, as well as the Fish & Wildlife Service guy engaging with both.
I liked the acting too. It was also well written.
Quote:
I felt it fitting when he let Martin know that nobody was missing, at the end.
It was and as I said I'm glad he let the ba$tard die like the girl did.
Quote:
Martin and Natalie are both in Yellowstone as well.

The subtitles seemed to work well.
I've not seen Yellowstone and I didn't use the subtitles.
Yellowstone is an upcoming TV miniseries.

Watching Wind River again, I am reminded that FBI Jane was not even supposed to hang around past the autopsy. She only stayed because the murder would not be solved without her, and everybody knew it.

For scriptwriters, a character is needed who must have everything explained to them. Often this is some newbie person in a unit, office, work or clich or partnership. They must exist for much of the story background to be explained to the audience without getting preachy or teachy. Jane fills in that role for some of this. So she needs to know not much more than us.

So Tribal Police in Canada track and disclose missing women information? Or RCMP does?

Well without tv, I don't know what is coming or not.

I know that and I figured that FBI Jane was written as low man

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, May 2, 2018 6:05 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
But really not sure. Nice of the writers to give whoever that guy was who was helping the Fed an Arapaho ex-wife, forgetting that half of the real Wind River reservation is occupied by the Shoshone.

Also typical Fed walking on to a reservation and expecting it to operate like the rest of the outside world. Graham Greene's character was surprised at even getting sniff of help. But then reservation land is Federal land and so that explains that.

The writer went looking for statistics on missing Native American women and couldn't find any.

There is a big difference between Canada and the US. At least in Canada the RCMP and others try to keep statistics on missing First Nations women and girls.

This movie rankled me as it proves once again that we don't count.

I will also add that I was very glad when that tracker let the main ba$tard die like the young woman. A fitting end to his miserable life.
Is it accurate that the rest of Wind River is Arapaho?
I have known about that for years. But you can google it JSF as it is verifiable. Just look up Wind River reservation and it will tell you that half is Shoshone (mine) and the other is Arapaho.
Quote:
Does RCMP have authority over First Nations, or do they need to wait for Tribal Police to provide the information?
Reservation land in Canada is Federal land and they can I think go onto it if called or looking for evidence of a crime. But not all tribes in Canada have a police force. I had to look this information up. One place in BC does. There are 3 in Alberta, 1 in Saskatchewan, 1 in Manitoba, in Ontario there is one First Nations police force for the whole province, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, NWT(Northwest Territories), Nunavut, Newfoundland, Quebec there is one for the Cree, EEPF which covers a good portion of that province then 4 other forces, Yukon as well. Also there are programs in the cities for First Nations who live off the reserve.
Quote:
The Fed was out of her depth and was responding on short notice. Everybody else was working to set her straight, if she would listen.
I know she was but you can still haul a laptop and do a little research on a plane flight. So, I will not give her a pass.
Quote:
I believe the writer-director was intentionally paying tribute to the lost women, and exposing the tragedy.
The writer was and I applaud them for doing it. It would seem to be a subject that needs to be discussed.
Quote:
I liked how Greene and Olsen negotiated and navigated the boundaries and interaction, as well as the Fish & Wildlife Service guy engaging with both.
I liked the acting too. It was also well written.
Quote:
I felt it fitting when he let Martin know that nobody was missing, at the end.
It was and as I said I'm glad he let the ba$tard die like the girl did.
Quote:
Martin and Natalie are both in Yellowstone as well.

The subtitles seemed to work well.
I've not seen Yellowstone and I didn't use the subtitles.
Yellowstone is an upcoming TV miniseries.

Watching Wind River again, I am reminded that FBI Jane was not even supposed to hang around past the autopsy. She only stayed because the murder would not be solved without her, and everybody knew it.

For scriptwriters, a character is needed who must have everything explained to them. Often this is some newbie person in a unit, office, work or clich or partnership. They must exist for much of the story background to be explained to the audience without getting preachy or teachy. Jane fills in that role for some of this. So she needs to know not much more than us.

So Tribal Police in Canada track and disclose missing women information? Or RCMP does?
Well without tv, I don't know what is coming or not.

I know that and I figured t

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BRENDA

Sunday, May 6, 2018 11:09 AM

See what I mean about not catching all the dialogue.

Though that still makes her low man on the totem pole.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, May 7, 2018 12:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
See what I mean about not catching all the dialogue.

Though that still makes her low man on the totem pole.

As the Only man on the totem pole, that also makes her top man on the totem pole.

Did you watch more than once?

BRENDA

Monday, May 7, 2018 6:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
See what I mean about not catching all the dialogue.

Though that still makes her low man on the totem pole.
As the Only man on the totem pole, that also makes her top man on the totem pole.

Did you watch more than once?

No, I only watched it once before I returned it to the library.