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Tuesday, May 1, 2018 2:19 AM
Quote:MSM just reported that the 1,500 riot thugs of the Obama/Hilliary/Soros-San Diego Pueblo Sin Fronteros caravan from Honduras have already clogged the system. Some cannot currently be processed because the system is already at maximum capacity. And that is just to turn away from the border the Fake Asylum thugs waving the Honduran Flag.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:If you are ill today, I'm sorry to hear of it. Get well soon.
Originally posted by second:Quote:As a voting Democrat, I think Trump should get his $25 billion to build the Texas/Mexico wall. Trump will do much more than $25 billion in damage if he shuts down the government, as he promised for September, should Congress not pass funding for the wall.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
No, you are incorrect yet again. No, you do not see.
You keep claiming there is no waste, Fraud, abuse, meaning there are no Illegal Alien parasites consuming our resources.
I keep pointing out that Illegal Aliens fraudulently consume these resources, and for at least this portion of the Food Stamp program, this is waste, fraud, and abuse - diverting resources from legitimate needy Citizens.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/mexico-border-wall-donald-trump-planning-mu
ch-will-cost-will/
Trump has all the authority he needs to deport 12 million illegals. What is he waiting for? Why hasn't he done it already? Is it because Republicans don't want to work at the jobs the illegals do?
http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/16/news/economy/immigrant-workers-jobs/in
dex.html
White Republicans are always whining about that wall and are howling mad about the 12 million illegal aliens doing the low pay jobs of America. Give the Whites the wall and hire all the unemployed White Republicans for those low pay jobs so that the whining and howling will stop. Maybe when 12 million Republicans are working in those low pay jobs left by the illegals, the Republicans will support the Democrats' goal for a higher minimum wage? Seems very fair to me.
You have posted a set of comments which almost entirely make sense.
How many Illegal Aliens have been deported under Trump? Although MSM has been downplaying these successes, I still keep hearing about large scale raids all over the place. I thought there was mention of prioritizing the worst criminals and repeat deportees for targeting. It sounds like Sanctuary Cities are effectively corralling many of these, making it easier to round them up, so that's mostly where I hear the best raids occur. Once the worst offenders are processed, do you know of a central database listing the locations of all the remaining illegals? I am not familiar with the process, but once past the border area, are not some legal proceedings navigated before deportation? What is the maximum volume this system can handle? Is there a method of mass deportation which could bypass the process - I have not heard of that. At the maximum volume rate of processing, how long would it take to report 12 million?
I greatly sounds like steady progress is being made, and targeting the worst offenders seems reasonable.
The Law of Supply and Demand will likely take effect before a Minimum Wage Increase is needed, which would cause the Minimum Wage worker to make less, lose buying power.
Other than that, your points sound sensible - leading us to infer you are ill.
Apparently they also brought some women and children to be human shields.
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Tuesday, May 1, 2018 2:58 AM
Quote:ICE conducted 226,119 removals. If there are 12 million illegals divided by 226,119, it will take 53 years to remove most of the illegals. I would say Trump is not really trying very hard. I do not think he is serious. Except it is worse than 53 years to remove all the illegals because most of the 226,119 that get deported have only been in the US for a few months. Trump is not making much of a dent in the long-term illegals. It might take 100 years for Trump to deport 12 million illegals at the rate he is working. I think Trump is doing more bullshitting than deporting. The guy is Fake News.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
If you are ill today, I'm sorry to hear of it. Get well soon.
You have posted a set of comments which almost entirely make sense.
How many Illegal Aliens have been deported under Trump? Although MSM has been downplaying these successes, I still keep hearing about large scale raids all over the place. I thought there was mention of prioritizing the worst criminals and repeat deportees for targeting. It sounds like Sanctuary Cities are effectively corralling many of these, making it easier to round them up, so that's mostly where I hear the best raids occur. Once the worst offenders are processed, do you know of a central database listing the locations of all the remaining illegals? I am not familiar with the process, but once past the border area, are not some legal proceedings navigated before deportation? What is the maximum volume this system can handle? Is there a method of mass deportation which could bypass the process - I have not heard of that. At the maximum volume rate of processing, how long would it take to report 12 million?
I greatly sounds like steady progress is being made, and targeting the worst offenders seems reasonable.
The Law of Supply and Demand will likely take effect before a Minimum Wage Increase is needed, which would cause the Minimum Wage worker to make less, lose buying power.
Other than that, your points sound sensible - leading us to infer you are ill.
www.ice.gov/removal-statistics/2017
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Tuesday, May 1, 2018 4:04 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Is this you saying, for the first time, that there is waste, fraud, abuse in the Food Stamp program?
I never said there wasn't waste and fraud. I simply said that the benefits of the program outweigh the cons, and the fact that there is a foodstamp program is one of the only things keeping you from getting burglarized or held up at knife or gunpoint for money for food.
I've said that to weed out people who shouldn't be on it would likely cost more taxpayer dollars to figure out than just paying people because at some point the cost of the additional oversight would be more than the benefits themselves.
I've also said four times now that I stand adamantly against illegal aliens and how they leach off the system. This however, is not a food stamp problem. It is a much larger problem that needs to be taken care of at the core. Cut the inflow of illegal alien leaches to the system by immediately making it impossible for them to get any free government programs, including foodstamps, education and helth care, and by enforcing tax laws we already have, making it impossible for them to actually make any money here to send home and they will go back to their country of their own volition, and no more will want to come here.
Then what seems to be your largest issue with the food stamp program becomes moot.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Tuesday, May 1, 2018 4:11 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
ICE conducted 226,119 removals. If there are 12 million illegals divided by 226,119, it will take 53 years to remove most of the illegals. I would say Trump is not really trying very hard. I do not think he is serious. Except it is worse than 53 years to remove all the illegals because most of the 226,119 that get deported have only been in the US for a few months. Trump is not making much of a dent in the long-term illegals. It might take 100 years for Trump to deport 12 million illegals at the rate he is working. I think Trump is doing more bullshitting than deporting. The guy is Fake News.
Deportation is just as stupid and a waste of money as building a wall is.
If somebody were serious about keeping illegals out they would make it impossible for them to make any money here and send it home through tax laws and absolutely destroying any companies found hiring them under the table.
Couple that with immediately cutting illegals, even those born here by illegal parents, from any government benefits and they will go back home on their own dime, with no cost to the American taxpayer.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Tuesday, May 1, 2018 4:40 AM
Quote:If 1% are legitimately needy and over 14% are participating, you claim that weeding out the 93% of fraudulent claims would cost more than paying for the 93%?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Is this you saying, for the first time, that there is waste, fraud, abuse in the Food Stamp program?
I never said there wasn't waste and fraud. I simply said that the benefits of the program outweigh the cons, and the fact that there is a foodstamp program is one of the only things keeping you from getting burglarized or held up at knife or gunpoint for money for food.
I've said that to weed out people who shouldn't be on it would likely cost more taxpayer dollars to figure out than just paying people because at some point the cost of the additional oversight would be more than the benefits themselves.
I've also said four times now that I stand adamantly against illegal aliens and how they leach off the system. This however, is not a food stamp problem. It is a much larger problem that needs to be taken care of at the core. Cut the inflow of illegal alien leaches to the system by immediately making it impossible for them to get any free government programs, including foodstamps, education and helth care, and by enforcing tax laws we already have, making it impossible for them to actually make any money here to send home and they will go back to their country of their own volition, and no more will want to come here.
Then what seems to be your largest issue with the food stamp program becomes moot.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
That doesn't sound right.
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Tuesday, May 1, 2018 5:06 AM
"If 1% are legitimately needy and over 14% are participating" cite?
I'm curious what the actual numbers are.
So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?
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Tuesday, May 1, 2018 5:48 AM
Quote:Always worried about the cost and never worry about results. That will guarantee failure.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
ICE conducted 226,119 removals. If there are 12 million illegals divided by 226,119, it will take 53 years to remove most of the illegals. I would say Trump is not really trying very hard. I do not think he is serious. Except it is worse than 53 years to remove all the illegals because most of the 226,119 that get deported have only been in the US for a few months. Trump is not making much of a dent in the long-term illegals. It might take 100 years for Trump to deport 12 million illegals at the rate he is working. I think Trump is doing more bullshitting than deporting. The guy is Fake News.
Deportation is just as stupid and a waste of money as building a wall is.
If somebody were serious about keeping illegals out they would make it impossible for them to make any money here and send it home through tax laws and absolutely destroying any companies found hiring them under the table.
Couple that with immediately cutting illegals, even those born here by illegal parents, from any government benefits and they will go back home on their own dime, with no cost to the American taxpayer.
The cost of the Texas/Mexico wall is $25 billion. And that is not every year. It is one time cost.
The cost to remove 12 million illegal aliens at $2,000 each is $24 billion.
The total is $49 billion. That is a small price to get Republicans to finally shut up.
It is smaller than Trump’s increase in Pentagon spending by $74 billion to a new world record defense budget of $716 billion for fiscal 2019.
The $74 billion defense increase is EVERY STINKING YEAR while the $49 billion is one time only.
The $74 billion defense increase will not have anything you can point to and say “this is what my money bought” while the $49 billion will buy you a thousand mile long wall and 12 million new jobs for legal citizens and there will be 12 million empty apartments and houses where the illegals had once lived. There will be cheaper rent for everybody still living in the USA.
And don't forget all those new American jobs openings the illegals graciously left behind for people like 6ixStringJack.
www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-trump-defense-20180212-story.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Tuesday, May 1, 2018 7:16 AM
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"If 1% are legitimately needy and over 14% are participating" cite?
I'm curious what the actual numbers are.
Yeah. These are numbers that have been quoted many times now without anything to back them up. Probably heard Rush Limbaugh say it once or something.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Tuesday, May 1, 2018 7:18 AM
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Always worried about the cost and never worry about results. That will guarantee failure.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
ICE conducted 226,119 removals. If there are 12 million illegals divided by 226,119, it will take 53 years to remove most of the illegals. I would say Trump is not really trying very hard. I do not think he is serious. Except it is worse than 53 years to remove all the illegals because most of the 226,119 that get deported have only been in the US for a few months. Trump is not making much of a dent in the long-term illegals. It might take 100 years for Trump to deport 12 million illegals at the rate he is working. I think Trump is doing more bullshitting than deporting. The guy is Fake News.
Deportation is just as stupid and a waste of money as building a wall is.
If somebody were serious about keeping illegals out they would make it impossible for them to make any money here and send it home through tax laws and absolutely destroying any companies found hiring them under the table.
Couple that with immediately cutting illegals, even those born here by illegal parents, from any government benefits and they will go back home on their own dime, with no cost to the American taxpayer.
The cost of the Texas/Mexico wall is $25 billion. And that is not every year. It is one time cost.
The cost to remove 12 million illegal aliens at $2,000 each is $24 billion.
The total is $49 billion. That is a small price to get Republicans to finally shut up.
It is smaller than Trump’s increase in Pentagon spending by $74 billion to a new world record defense budget of $716 billion for fiscal 2019.
The $74 billion defense increase is EVERY STINKING YEAR while the $49 billion is one time only.
The $74 billion defense increase will not have anything you can point to and say “this is what my money bought” while the $49 billion will buy you a thousand mile long wall and 12 million new jobs for legal citizens and there will be 12 million empty apartments and houses where the illegals had once lived. There will be cheaper rent for everybody still living in the USA.
And don't forget all those new American jobs openings the illegals graciously left behind for people like 6ixStringJack.
www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-trump-defense-20180212-story.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
That's a lot of waste of money on something that is just there for show, even if it is one time. It won't actually keep anybody out if there's no reason other than a stupid wall that is for show blocking them.
Take away any and all incentives for somebody to even want to be here illegally and they simply won't come, even if you had no wall and a 3,000 mile long red carpet rolled out along the border.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Tuesday, May 1, 2018 7:19 AM
Quote:The report from the Food Stamp program uses the figures 1% and 14.4%.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
"If 1% are legitimately needy and over 14% are participating" cite?
I'm curious what the actual numbers are.
So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?
I am not aware of a better suited authority. Who might provide more accurate data?
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