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Monday, April 30, 2018 2:26 AM
I didn't.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Monday, April 30, 2018 3:32 AM
Reposted after completing the post:
Quote:Maybe they just resent being lied to. The Ponzi Scheme called Social Security was never presented, proposed, discussed, or enacted as a Tax. It was presented as a contribution to a fund which you, yourself would draw from, depending upon how much you contributed. Only Taxaholic Libtards and other Democraps would consider it a Tax, completely divorcing it from it's legislation.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I see you changed the subject without replying to me.
I'll consider that another checkmate.
Do Right, Be Right. :)Quote:Americans at all levels are selfish as can be. It is not surprising that those at the top are as selfish as those in the middle and bottom. That is why Food Stamps are part of the agriculture bill – the program has to be sold as helping the farming states make money. The idea can’t be sold as exclusively for helping the hungry.
6ixStringJack wrote
I used to think that people on Food Stamps were worthless and didn't deserve them until I made a less than livable wage and found new empathy for . . .
Selfish Americans are NOT that generous. They already bitch endlessly about their taxes to support the old, you know Medicare and Social Security.
Quote:If they don't like it they should return to their Mexico home, where it is warm.Quote:I can't really argue any of what you posted here. Sure, it's all generalizations and there are going to be exceptions to the rule, but not enough to argue any points you made.
I remember 6ixStringJack has bitched about his FICA tax.
I think everybody should be poor once in their lives.
There's two things to learn when you've lived that way for a while that you can't just explain to somebody because they just wouldn't actually get it unless they had to really live with it for a period of time.
1. Basic things like food and heat during the winter should not be a problem for anybody to acquire. We're supposedly the greatest nation the world has ever seen and yet we still have people starving and freezing to death.
Quote:Such an advocate for Illegal Alien parasites, you are.
2. You've got to really have problems (mental or otherwise) if you actually want to stay on government programs for any prolonged period of time.
Aside from the fact that the Government wants to know everything about you while you're on them, it's actually a lot of effort to get them and maintain them over time. You also have to purposefully curb your work hours to maintain them, by doing things like actively turning down extra shifts.
I make too much money hourly to get them even if I were to intentionally curb my hours, because you can't get them unless you work 20 hours per week.
With all the terrible spending choices our government makes with our tax dollars, you'll never hear me bitching again about food stamps. I don't envy any person who makes so little that they can be eligible to get them, and I'm happy to know that a part of my taxes go to help feed them.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Monday, April 30, 2018 5:03 AM
Quote:JewelStaiteFan, your life is hard because you lost touch with reality. It is a tax. What is FICA? www.ssa.gov/thirdparty/materials/pdfs/educators/What-is-FICA-Infograph
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Maybe they just resent being lied to. The Ponzi Scheme called Social Security was never presented, proposed, discussed, or enacted as a Tax. It was presented as a contribution to a fund which you, yourself would draw from, depending upon how much you contributed. Only Taxaholic Libtards and other Democraps would consider it a Tax, completely divorcing it from it's legislation.
ic-EN-05-10297.pdf
FICA is a U.S. federal payroll tax. It stands for the Federal Insurance Contributions Act and is deducted from each paycheck. Your nine-digit number helps Social Security accurately record your covered wages or self-employment. As you work and pay FICA taxes, you earn credits for Social Security benefits.
How much is coming out of my check?
6.2% of your gross wages goes to Social Security tax. 1.45% of your gross wages goes to Medicare tax. Your employer matches these percentages for a total of 15.3%
An estimated 171 million workers are covered under Social Security. FICA helps fund both Social Security and Medicare programs, which provide benefits for retirees, the disabled, and children.
Think about FICA like this...
The money you pay in taxes is not held in a personal account for you to use when you get benefits. Today’s workers help pay for current retirees’ and other beneficiaries’ benefits. Any unused money goes to the Social Security trust funds to help secure today and tomorrow for you and your family.
More at www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fica.asp Read it, JewelStaiteFan. Learn what is real.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Monday, April 30, 2018 6:13 AM
Quote:I can't really argue any of what you posted here. Sure, it's all generalizations and there are going to be exceptions to the rule, but not enough to argue any points you made.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Reposted after completing the post:Quote:Maybe they just resent being lied to. The Ponzi Scheme called Social Security was never presented, proposed, discussed, or enacted as a Tax. It was presented as a contribution to a fund which you, yourself would draw from, depending upon how much you contributed. Only Taxaholic Libtards and other Democraps would consider it a Tax, completely divorcing it from it's legislation.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I see you changed the subject without replying to me.
I'll consider that another checkmate.
Do Right, Be Right. :)Quote:Americans at all levels are selfish as can be. It is not surprising that those at the top are as selfish as those in the middle and bottom. That is why Food Stamps are part of the agriculture bill – the program has to be sold as helping the farming states make money. The idea can’t be sold as exclusively for helping the hungry.
6ixStringJack wrote
I used to think that people on Food Stamps were worthless and didn't deserve them until I made a less than livable wage and found new empathy for . . .
Selfish Americans are NOT that generous. They already bitch endlessly about their taxes to support the old, you know Medicare and Social Security.Quote:Quote:
I remember 6ixStringJack has bitched about his FICA tax.
I think everybody should be poor once in their lives.
There's two things to learn when you've lived that way for a while that you can't just explain to somebody because they just wouldn't actually get it unless they had to really live with it for a period of time.
1. Basic things like food and heat during the winter should not be a problem for anybody to acquire. We're supposedly the greatest nation the world has ever seen and yet we still have people starving and freezing to death.
If they don't like it they should return to their Mexico home, where it is warm.
Quote:Such an advocate for Illegal Alien parasites, you are.
2. You've got to really have problems (mental or otherwise) if you actually want to stay on government programs for any prolonged period of time.
Aside from the fact that the Government wants to know everything about you while you're on them, it's actually a lot of effort to get them and maintain them over time. You also have to purposefully curb your work hours to maintain them, by doing things like actively turning down extra shifts.
I make too much money hourly to get them even if I were to intentionally curb my hours, because you can't get them unless you work 20 hours per week.
With all the terrible spending choices our government makes with our tax dollars, you'll never hear me bitching again about food stamps. I don't envy any person who makes so little that they can be eligible to get them, and I'm happy to know that a part of my taxes go to help feed them.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I see what the problem is here.
You're saying the only people who live here without heat and food in this country are Mexicans.
I don't know... Maybe that's as racist as it is untrue?
As for your second time claiming that I'm an advocate for Illegal Alien parasites, I'll repost about it since you seemed to have missed it the first time:
Quote:
Though I don't support the idea of a physical wall that is nothing more than a ridiculously expensive form of "security theater", there are plenty of ways to make it so that nobody who wasn't a citizen would ever want to even be here. Most of them would be a very cheap addition to what the IRS alreNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Monday, April 30, 2018 3:05 PM
Quote:If they don't like it they should return to their Mexico home, where it is warm.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:I can't really argue any of what you posted here. Sure, it's all generalizations and there are going to be exceptions to the rule, but not enough to argue any points you made.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Reposted after completing the post:Quote:Maybe they just resent being lied to. The Ponzi Scheme called Social Security was never presented, proposed, discussed, or enacted as a Tax. It was presented as a contribution to a fund which you, yourself would draw from, depending upon how much you contributed. Only Taxaholic Libtards and other Democraps would consider it a Tax, completely divorcing it from it's legislation.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I see you changed the subject without replying to me.
I'll consider that another checkmate.
Do Right, Be Right. :)Quote:Americans at all levels are selfish as can be. It is not surprising that those at the top are as selfish as those in the middle and bottom. That is why Food Stamps are part of the agriculture bill – the program has to be sold as helping the farming states make money. The idea can’t be sold as exclusively for helping the hungry.
6ixStringJack wrote
I used to think that people on Food Stamps were worthless and didn't deserve them until I made a less than livable wage and found new empathy for . . .
Selfish Americans are NOT that generous. They already bitch endlessly about their taxes to support the old, you know Medicare and Social Security.Quote:Quote:
I remember 6ixStringJack has bitched about his FICA tax.
I think everybody should be poor once in their lives.
There's two things to learn when you've lived that way for a while that you can't just explain to somebody because they just wouldn't actually get it unless they had to really live with it for a period of time.
1. Basic things like food and heat during the winter should not be a problem for anybody to acquire. We're supposedly the greatest nation the world has ever seen and yet we still have people starving and freezing to death.
Quote:Such an advocate for Illegal Alien parasites, you are.
2. You've got to really have problems (mental or otherwise) if you actually want to stay on government programs for any prolonged period of time.
Aside from the fact that the Government wants to know everything about you while you're on them, it's actually a lot of effort to get them and maintain them over time. You also have to purposefully curb your work hours to maintain them, by doing things like actively turning down extra shifts.
I make too much money hourly to get them even if I were to intentionally curb my hours, because you can't get them unless you work 20 hours per week.
With all the terrible spending choices our government makes with our tax dollars, you'll never hear me bitching again about food stamps. I don't envy any person who makes so little that they can be eligible to get them, and I'm happy to know that a part of my taxes go to help feed them.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I see what the problem is here.
You're saying the only people who live here without heat and food in this country are Mexicans.
I don't know... Maybe that's as racist as it is untrue?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
No, you are incorrect yet again. No, you do not see.
You keep claiming there is no waste, Fraud, abuse, meaning there are no Illegal Alien parasites consuming our resources.
I keep pointing out that Illegal Aliens fraudulently consume these resources, and for at least this portion of the Food Stamp program, this is waste, fraud, and abuse - diverting resources from legitimate needy Citizens.
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Monday, April 30, 2018 4:45 PM
Quote:As a voting Democrat, I think Trump should get his $25 billion to build the Texas/Mexico wall. Trump will do much more than $25 billion in damage if he shuts down the government, as he promised for September, should Congress not pass funding for the wall.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
No, you are incorrect yet again. No, you do not see.
You keep claiming there is no waste, Fraud, abuse, meaning there are no Illegal Alien parasites consuming our resources.
I keep pointing out that Illegal Aliens fraudulently consume these resources, and for at least this portion of the Food Stamp program, this is waste, fraud, and abuse - diverting resources from legitimate needy Citizens.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/mexico-border-wall-donald-trump-planning-mu
ch-will-cost-will/
Trump has all the authority he needs to deport 12 million illegals. What is he waiting for? Why hasn't he done it already? Is it because Republicans don't want to work at the jobs the illegals do?
http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/16/news/economy/immigrant-workers-jobs/in
dex.html
White Republicans are always whining about that wall and are howling mad about the 12 million illegal aliens doing the low pay jobs of America. Give the Whites the wall and hire all the unemployed White Republicans for those low pay jobs so that the whining and howling will stop. Maybe when 12 million Republicans are working in those low pay jobs left by the illegals, the Republicans will support the Democrats' goal for a higher minimum wage? Seems very fair to me.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Monday, April 30, 2018 5:41 PM
Quote:Such an advocate for Illegal Alien parasites, you are.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:If they don't like it they should return to their Mexico home, where it is warm.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:I can't really argue any of what you posted here. Sure, it's all generalizations and there are going to be exceptions to the rule, but not enough to argue any points you made.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Reposted after completing the post:Quote:Maybe they just resent being lied to. The Ponzi Scheme called Social Security was never presented, proposed, discussed, or enacted as a Tax. It was presented as a contribution to a fund which you, yourself would draw from, depending upon how much you contributed. Only Taxaholic Libtards and other Democraps would consider it a Tax, completely divorcing it from it's legislation.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I see you changed the subject without replying to me.
I'll consider that another checkmate.
Do Right, Be Right. :)Quote:Americans at all levels are selfish as can be. It is not surprising that those at the top are as selfish as those in the middle and bottom. That is why Food Stamps are part of the agriculture bill – the program has to be sold as helping the farming states make money. The idea can’t be sold as exclusively for helping the hungry.
6ixStringJack wrote
I used to think that people on Food Stamps were worthless and didn't deserve them until I made a less than livable wage and found new empathy for . . .
Selfish Americans are NOT that generous. They already bitch endlessly about their taxes to support the old, you know Medicare and Social Security.Quote:Quote:
I remember 6ixStringJack has bitched about his FICA tax.
I think everybody should be poor once in their lives.
There's two things to learn when you've lived that way for a while that you can't just explain to somebody because they just wouldn't actually get it unless they had to really live with it for a period of time.
1. Basic things like food and heat during the winter should not be a problem for anybody to acquire. We're supposedly the greatest nation the world has ever seen and yet we still have people starving and freezing to death.Quote:
2. You've got to really have problems (mental or otherwise) if you actually want to stay on government programs for any prolonged period of time.
Aside from the fact that the Government wants to know everything about you while you're on them, it's actually a lot of effort to get them and maintain them over time. You also have to purposefully curb your work hours to maintain them, by doing things like actively turning down extra shifts.
I make too much money hourly to get them even if I were to intentionally curb my hours, because you can't get them unless you work 20 hours per week.
With all the terrible spending choices our government makes with our tax dollars, you'll never hear me bitching again about food stamps. I don't envy any person who makes so little that they can be eligible to get them, and I'm happy to know that a part of my taxes go to help feed them.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I see what the problem is here.
You're saying the only people who live here without heat and food in this country are Mexicans.
I don't know... Maybe that's as racist as it is untrue?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
No, you are incorrect yet again. No, you do not see.
You keep claiming there is no waste, Fraud, abuse, meaning there are no Illegal Alien parasites consuming our resources.
I keep pointing out that Illegal Aliens fraudulently consume these resources, and for at least this portion of the Food Stamp program, this is waste, fraud, and abuse - diverting resources from legitimate ne
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Monday, April 30, 2018 6:00 PM
Quote:As those illegals are deported, there are good jobs opening in Michigan for 6ixStringJack: "So severe are looming shortages of workers in the skilled trades in Michigan, Republican Gov. Rick Snyder in February announced a $100 million proposal www.michigan.gov/ted/0,5863,7-336-85008---,00.html he likens to the Marshall Plan that rebuilt Europe after World War II. Using scholarships and stipends, among other things, it would prepare more people for the 811,000 expected job openings through 2024 in industries facing worker shortages, which Michigan officials say don’t require bachelor’s degrees and pay an average of $60,000 a year."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You brought up illegals leaching off the system three times now. I've already said twice that I'm against this, and this will make it the third time. Are you stupid or something?
Do I have to re-quote my post a third fucking time about how we can keep them well fed for their trip back home as they're deported?
What the fuck is wrong with you man? Really.
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2018/04/29/high-paying-jobs-go-begging-w
hile-high-school-grads-line-up-for-bachelors-degrees/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Monday, April 30, 2018 11:49 PM
Quote:If you are ill today, I'm sorry to hear of it. Get well soon.
Originally posted by second:Quote:As a voting Democrat, I think Trump should get his $25 billion to build the Texas/Mexico wall. Trump will do much more than $25 billion in damage if he shuts down the government, as he promised for September, should Congress not pass funding for the wall.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
No, you are incorrect yet again. No, you do not see.
You keep claiming there is no waste, Fraud, abuse, meaning there are no Illegal Alien parasites consuming our resources.
I keep pointing out that Illegal Aliens fraudulently consume these resources, and for at least this portion of the Food Stamp program, this is waste, fraud, and abuse - diverting resources from legitimate needy Citizens.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/mexico-border-wall-donald-trump-planning-mu
ch-will-cost-will/
Trump has all the authority he needs to deport 12 million illegals. What is he waiting for? Why hasn't he done it already? Is it because Republicans don't want to work at the jobs the illegals do?
http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/16/news/economy/immigrant-workers-jobs/in
dex.html
White Republicans are always whining about that wall and are howling mad about the 12 million illegal aliens doing the low pay jobs of America. Give the Whites the wall and hire all the unemployed White Republicans for those low pay jobs so that the whining and howling will stop. Maybe when 12 million Republicans are working in those low pay jobs left by the illegals, the Republicans will support the Democrats' goal for a higher minimum wage? Seems very fair to me.
You have posted a set of comments which almost entirely make sense.
How many Illegal Aliens have been deported under Trump? Although MSM has been downplaying these successes, I still keep hearing about large scale raids all over the place. I thought there was mention of prioritizing the worst criminals and repeat deportees for targeting. It sounds like Sanctuary Cities are effectively corralling many of these, making it easier to round them up, so that's mostly where I hear the best raids occur. Once the worst offenders are processed, do you know of a central database listing the locations of all the remaining illegals? I am not familiar with the process, but once past the border area, are not some legal proceedings navigated before deportation? What is the maximum volume this system can handle? Is there a method of mass deportation which could bypass the process - I have not heard of that. At the maximum volume rate of processing, how long would it take to report 12 million?
I greatly sounds like steady progress is being made, and targeting the worst offenders seems reasonable.
The Law of Supply and Demand will likely take effect before a Minimum Wage Increase is needed, which would cause the Minimum Wage worker to make less, lose buying power.
Other than that, your points sound sensible - leading us to infer you are ill.
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Monday, April 30, 2018 11:58 PM
Quote:You brought up illegals leaching off the system three times now. I've already said twice that I'm against this, and this will make it the third time. Are you stupid or something?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:No, you are incorrect yet again. No, you do not see.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:I see what the problem is here.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:Such an advocate for Illegal Alien parasites, you are.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Reposted after completing the post:Quote:If they don't like it they should return to their Mexico home, where it is warm.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:I can't really argue any of what you posted here. Sure, it's all generalizations and there are going to be exceptions to the rule, but not enough to argue any points you made.
Originally posted by second:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I used to think that people on Food Stamps were worthless and didn't deserve them . . .
Food Stamps are part of the agriculture bill – the program has to be sold as helping the farming states make money. The idea can’t be sold as exclusively for helping the hungry.
I think everybody should be poor once in their lives.
There's two things to learn when you've lived that way for a while that you can't just explain to somebody because they just wouldn't actually get it unless they had to really live with it for a period of time.
1. Basic things like food and heat during the winter should not be a problem for anybody to acquire. We're supposedly the greatest nation the world has ever seen and yet we still have people starving and freezing to death.Quote:
2. You've got to really have problems (mental or otherwise) if you actually want to stay on government programs for any prolonged period of time.
Aside from the fact that the Government wants to know everything about you while you're on them, it's actually a lot of effort to get them and maintain them over time. You also have to purposefully curb your work hours to maintain them, by doing things like actively turning down extra shifts.
I make too much money hourly to get them even if I were to intentionally curb my hours, because you can't get them unless you work 20 hours per week.
With all the terrible spending choices our government makes with our tax dollars, you'll never hear me bitching again about food stamps. I don't envy any person who makes so little that they can be eligible to get them, and I'm happy to know that a part of my taxes go to help feed them.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
You're saying the only people who live here without heat and food in this country are Mexicans.
I don't know... Maybe that's as racist as it is untrue?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
You keep claiming there is no waste, Fraud, abuse, meaning there are no Illegal Alien parasites consuming our resources.
I keep pointing out that Illegal Aliens fraudulently consume these resources, and for at least this portion of the Food Stamp program, this is waste, fraud, and abuse - diverting resources from legitimate needy Citizens.
Do I have to re-quote my post a third fucking time about how we can keep them well fed for their trip back home as they're deported?
What the fuck is wrong with you man? Really.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Is this you saying, for the first time, that there is waste, fraud, abuse in the Food Stamp program?
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