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SECOND

Saturday, April 28, 2018 5:17 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I see you changed the subject without replying to me.

I'll consider that another checkmate.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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6ixStringJack wrote

{Second, you have:} No empathy. No understanding. No appreciation.

The one percenters do have a little bit of those qualities. But America is built on extraordinary selfishness. It is number one on the list. Even if Americans became extraordinarily empathetic (which they aren’t once you look at what percent of their income they give to charity) they will fight against helping anyone beneath them if Americans think helping will reduce their own income. It is pure and extreme American selfishness that Americans don’t want to acknowledge in themselves.

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6ixStringJack wrote

I used to think that people on Food Stamps were worthless and didn't deserve them until I made a less than livable wage and found new empathy for . . .

Americans at all levels are selfish as can be. It is not surprising that those at the top are as selfish as those in the middle and bottom. That is why Food Stamps are part of the agriculture bill – the program has to be sold as helping the farming states make money. The idea can’t be sold as exclusively for helping the hungry.

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A typical amount that people aspire to donate to charity ranges from 3 percent to 10 percent of their taxed income, and often is influenced by religious affiliation. Some branches of Christianity, for example, encourage their followers to donate 10 percent of their earnings to the church or to charities.

To bring the lower 50% of Americans up to the level of upper 50%, the median-priced American’s level, will cost a whole lot more than 10%. Selfish Americans are NOT that generous. They already bitch endlessly about their taxes to support the old, you know Medicare and Social Security. I remember 6ixStringJack has bitched about his FICA tax. At least middle-class Americans pay the tax because they can imagine themselves being old someday, but they cannot imagine being poor. They really don’t want to help the poor. Americans want somebody, not themselves, to pay. Preferably the poor will pay for raising the poor out of poverty. That is not a practical way to end poverty, but people who are not poor are too selfish to admit it is impractical. They just refuse to pay more than 2 cents to do a job that will benefit somebody other than themselves.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Saturday, April 28, 2018 5:23 PM

'Fox & Friends' Couldn't Get Trump Off The Phone

The three hosts of 'Fox & Friends' couldn't get a word in during the President's half-hour filibuster on live television. The facial expressions and body posture of the hosts towards the end of Trump's phone call was priceless.

Chris Hayes Talks About Trump's Surreal Fox & Friends Interview

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, April 28, 2018 6:23 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I see you changed the subject without replying to me.

I'll consider that another checkmate.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
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6ixStringJack wrote

{Second, you have:} No empathy. No understanding. No appreciation.
The one percenters do have a little bit of those qualities. But America is built on extraordinary selfishness. It is number one on the list. Even if Americans became extraordinarily empathetic (which they aren’t once you look at what percent of their income they give to charity) they will fight against helping anyone beneath them if Americans think helping will reduce their own income. It is pure and extreme American selfishness that Americans don’t want to acknowledge in themselves.
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6ixStringJack wrote

I used to think that people on Food Stamps were worthless and didn't deserve them until I made a less than livable wage and found new empathy for . . .
Americans at all levels are selfish as can be. It is not surprising that those at the top are as selfish as those in the middle and bottom. That is why Food Stamps are part of the agriculture bill – the program has to be sold as helping the farming states make money. The idea can’t be sold as exclusively for helping the hungry.
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A typical amount that people aspire to donate to charity ranges from 3 percent to 10 percent of their taxed income, and often is influenced by religious affiliation. Some branches of Christianity, for example, encourage their followers to donate 10 percent of their earnings to the church or to charities.
To bring the lower 50% of Americans up to the level of upper 50%, the median-priced American’s level, will cost a whole lot more than 10%. Selfish Americans are NOT that generous. They already bitch endlessly about their taxes to support the old, you know Medicare and Social Security. I remember 6ixStringJack has bitched about his FICA tax. At least middle-class Americans pay the tax because they can imagine themselves being old someday, but they cannot imagine being poor. They really don’t want to help the poor. Americans want somebody, not themselves, to pay. Preferably the poor will pay for raising the poor out of poverty. That is not a practical way to end poverty, but people who are not poor are too selfish to admit it is impractical. They just refuse to pay more than 2 cents to do a job that will benefit somebody other than themselves.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

I can't really argue any of what you posted here. Sure, it's all generalizations and there are going to be exceptions to the rule, but not enough to argue any points you made.

I think everybody should be poor once in their lives.

I'm working my way back to levels that are personally comfortable to me, and it will take time and effort, but I flirted on the fringes there for quite a while. I was on just about every form of government subsidies that a single man who isn't elderly or disabled could get.

There's two things to learn when you've lived that way for a while that you can't just explain to somebody because they just wouldn't actually get it unless they had to really live with it for a period of time.

1. Basic things like food and heat during the winter should not be a problem for anybody to acquire. We're supposedly the greatest nation the world has ever seen and yet we still have people starving and freezing to death.

2. You've got to really have problems (mental or otherwise) if you actually want to stay on government programs for any prolonged period of time.

Aside from the fact that the Government wants to know everything about you while you're on them, it's actually a lot of effort to get them and maintain them over time. You also have to purposefully curb your work hours to main

SECOND

Saturday, April 28, 2018 8:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

There's two things to learn when you've lived that way for a while that you can't just explain to somebody because they just wouldn't actually get it unless they had to really live with it for a period of time.

1. Basic things like food and heat during the winter should not be a problem for anybody to acquire. We're supposedly the greatest nation the world has ever seen and yet we still have people starving and freezing to death. . . .

America can already afford to change its mind about starving and freezing to death, but the majority voter opinion doesn't change. I checked about affordability: the GDP is $20 trillion. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDP

No, we don’t spend $1 trillion on welfare each year
https://goo.gl/tgWHLs

Even if America did spend $1 trillion on welfare (it doesn’t) a trillion is only 5% of the GDP. To get everyone up into the middle class, much more ambitious than preventing everyone from freezing and starving to death, will cost much more than 5%. The people already in the middle class do not want to pay even to prevent starving and freezing. They sure as hell won't pay to raise everyone into middle class. The lower 50% of the Americans will continue struggling until the upper 50% will pay enough to end the struggle. But the upper 50% vote more than the lower 50%. As their incomes approach the upper 1%, voter participation approaches 100%. As their incomes approach the bottom 10%, voter participation approaches 0%. Bernie said poor people don't vote. Poor people are screwed by those voters in the middle class.
www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/apr/24/bernie-s/berni
e-sanders-said-poor-people-dont-vote/

What does the government spend most money on? It is not on poverty programs:
www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/17/facebook-posts
/pie-chart-federal-spending-circulating-internet-mi/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, April 28, 2018 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My arguments with JSF recently surrounding the DOW and Food Stamps are reflections of my own evolution of thought on these issues based off of my new perspective. I used to think that the DOW was great for everybody, until I realized that it is a catalyst for the loss of jobs and wages and benefits, and the money that investors make is off the backs of the American working class.

It was never really great for everybody, only for those who partook. The opportunity for partaking has been growing.
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I used to think that people on Food Stamps were worthless and didn't deserve them
Well that is interesting. I never thought that people on Food Stamps were worthless and undeserving. I can't even understand how you could honestly think that. I only objected to the cheats, the frauds, the thieves - which mostly accounted for the Food Stamp recipients who I had personally known about.

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until I made a less than livable wage and found new empathy for those who actually have to try to make ends meet on the same pay scale while also paying for housing and oftentimes even raising children on it.

No empathy. No understanding. No appreciation.

There would be no 1% without the 99%.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You also appear to ignore that the money that is invested is what provides jobs for the workers to work.
In that way, the workers are taking advantage of the investors, and in many cases are squandering away the funds that the investors are providing.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, April 28, 2018 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Golly, is this the delusion where President Eisenhower started the Korean War?
Your re-education shows impressive results.
Instead of being captured in Korea, President Eisenhower asked his son to kill himself because Eisenhower would resign the Presidency if his son was captured alive.

You stated that this was after Eisenhower, as President, started the Korean War.
For those unclear about history, the Korean War from June 1950 to July 1953 altered the division of the Korean Peninsula between the Democratic half (Communists of North Korea) and the Republic half (Free and Liberated people of South Korea). For those who have heard of the Winter at the 38th Parallel, in America the 38th crosses the nation at approximately the bottom tip of Indiana, and the Port of San Francisco, including the middle of MO and KS, and the bottom half of CO, UT, NV.
Eisenhower attained the Presidency in 1953, and months later the Armistice was signed. Only in Libtard History was Eisenhower President in 1950.

On an entirely separate issue:

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Since then, no President has told a son to commit suicide because no President had children actually fighting a war. That makes it so much easier for America to go to war when the President has no skin in the game. Maybe super-patriots Trump Jr. and Eric Trump should join the Army in protecting America?

For someone who claims to have been Commissioned in the Marines, you seem to possess an amazing lack of Military History comprehension. Have your meds retarded your recall, or memory?

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, April 29, 2018 1:17 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I see you changed the subject without replying to me.
I'll consider that another checkmate.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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6ixStringJack wrote
I used to think that people on Food Stamps were worthless and didn't deserve them until I made a less than livable wage and found new empathy for . . .
Americans at all levels are selfish as can be. It is not surprising that those at the top are as selfish as those in the middle and bottom. That is why Food Stamps are part of the agriculture bill – the program has to be sold as helping the farming states make money. The idea can’t be sold as exclusively for helping the hungry.
Selfish Americans are NOT that generous. They already bitch endlessly about their taxes to support the old, you know Medicare and Social Security.

Maybe they just resent being lied to. The Ponzi Scheme called Social Security was never presented, proposed, discussed, or enacted as a Tax. It was presented as a contribution to a fund which you, yourself would draw from, depending upon how much you contributed. Only Taxaholic Libtards and other Democraps would consider it a Tax, completely divorcing it from it's legislation.
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I remember 6ixStringJack has bitched about his FICA tax.
I can't really argue any of what you posted here. Sure, it's all generalizations and there are going to be exceptions to the rule, but not enough to argue any points you made.

I think everybody should be poor once in their lives.

There's two things to learn when you've lived that way for a while that you can't just explain to somebody because they just wouldn't actually get it unless they had to really live with it for a period of time.

1. Basic things like food and heat during the winter should not be a problem for anybody to acquire. We're supposedly the greatest nation the world has ever seen and yet we still have people starving and freezing to death.
If they don't like it they should return to their Mexico home, where it is warm.

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2. You've got to really have problems (mental or otherwise) if you actually want to stay on government programs for any prolonged period of time.

Aside from the fact that the Government wants to know everything about you while you're on them, it's actually a lot of effort to get them and maintain them over time. You also have to purposefully curb your work hours to maintain them, by doing things like actively turning down extra shifts.

I make too much money hourly to get them even if I were to intentionally curb my hours, because you can't get them unless you work 20 hours per week.

With all the terrible spending choices our government makes with our tax dollars, you'll never hear me bitching again about food stamps. I don't envy any person who makes so little that they can be eligible to get them, and I'm happy to know that a part of my taxes go to help feed them.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Such an advocate for Illegal Alien parasites, you are.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, April 29, 2018 5:15 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

There's two things to learn when you've lived that way for a while that you can't just explain to somebody because they just wouldn't actually get it unless they had to really live with it for a period of time.

1. Basic things like food and heat during the winter should not be a problem for anybody to acquire. We're supposedly the greatest nation the world has ever seen and yet we still have people starving and freezing to death. . . .
America can already afford to change its mind about starving and freezing to death, but the majority voter opinion doesn't change. I checked about affordability: the GDP is $20 trillion. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDP

No, we don’t spend $1 trillion on welfare each year
https://goo.gl/tgWHLs

Even if America did spend $1 trillion on welfare (it doesn’t) a trillion is only 5% of the GDP. To get everyone up into the middle class, much more ambitious than preventing everyone from freezing and starving to death, will cost much more than 5%. The people already in the middle class do not want to pay even to prevent starving and freezing. They sure as hell won't pay to raise everyone into middle class. The lower 50% of the Americans will continue struggling until the upper 50% will pay enough to end the struggle. But the upper 50% vote more than the lower 50%. As their incomes approach the upper 1%, voter participation approaches 100%. As their incomes approach the bottom 10%, voter participation approaches 0%. Bernie said poor people don't vote. Poor people are screwed by those voters in the middle class.
www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/apr/24/bernie-s/berni
e-sanders-said-poor-people-dont-vote/

What does the government spend most money on? It is not on poverty programs:
www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/17/facebook-posts
/pie-chart-federal-spending-circulating-internet-mi/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

I didn't say anything about raising the poor to middle class.

If everyone is middle class then everyone is poor. I'm not advocating for Communism here. All I'm saying is that I'm definitely pro food stamps, and of all the things I maintain my right to bitch about where my taxes go, you won't hear me bitching about food stamps again.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, April 29, 2018 5:20 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Such an advocate for Illegal Alien parasites, you are.

This post doesn't really even deserve a reply since I have a long track record against supporting illegal aliens.

Though I don't support the idea of a physical wall that is nothing more than a ridiculously expensive form of "security theater", there are plenty of ways to make it so that nobody who wasn't a citizen would ever want to even be here. Most of them would be a very cheap addition to what the IRS already does, so it would start paying for itself from day one.

Should we make sure nobody starves that doesn't live here? Sure. We'll keep them well fed on their ride back home. Then when the laws are sufficiently changed and upheld so that nobody without a valid social security number can get free education and medical care or be able to make any wages here, they won't bother coming back.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, April 30, 2018 1:56 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Such an advocate for Illegal Alien parasites, you are.
This post doesn't really even deserve a reply since I have a long track record against supporting illegal aliens.

Then why are you endorsing Illegal Alien criminals (wastefully) receiving Food Stamps, diverting resources away from (nonwasteful) needy and legitimate American Citizens?

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