Star Wars: Rogue One
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UPDATED: Thursday, July 26, 2018 16:25
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Waiting for the completed work before stealing it sounds like a plan.
That's what I'd be doing right now if I was in a position of power at Disney.
You're never going to get the people who download it now for free to ever pay for it, and you can't put the shit back in the horse. It's already out there and it's not going away.
But at the same time there are a lot of people who would gladly pay good money to see this and own it in a physical medium.
It doesn't even have to be a horror story of the Big Bad Disney crushing somebody. This guy hasn't ever asked anybody for any money for the work he's done. He's gladly giving it away to anyone who will watch it.
I doubt that Disney would ever call it something like "Harmy's Despecialized Edition", but it wouldn't surprise me if he got his name somewhere in the credits in the case. Hell... Instead of taking legal action against him, Disney might offer a guy with his talent a decent gig to boot.
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Will they allow a similar action with Firefly?
What did you have in mind here? Some film students making their own fanfiction reboot? I don't see the parallels to this project and any possibility with new Firefly stuff.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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A few days ago flickeringmyth.com posted an interview with Tony Gilroy about fixing Rogue One.
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Quote:www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-rogue-one-writer-tony-
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
A few days ago flickeringmyth.com posted an interview with Tony Gilroy about fixing Rogue One.
gilroy-opens-up-reshoots-1100060
APRIL 05, 2018 9:49am PT by Aaron Couch
Tony Gilroy on 'Rogue One' Reshoots: They Were in "Terrible Trouble"
The screenwriter, who salvaged the 'Star Wars' project, says the situation was so dire, "all you could do was improve their position."
Tony Gilroy is getting candid for the first time about his emergency trip to the Star Wars galaxy. . . . Choosing his words carefully, Gilroy signaled how much of the project was changed after he boarded. (Star Ben Mendelsohn has said "an enormously different" version of the film exists.)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Gilroy said he came in after the Director's Cut.
Originally posted by second:Quote:www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-rogue-one-writer-tony-
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
A few days ago flickeringmyth.com posted an interview with Tony Gilroy about fixing Rogue One.
gilroy-opens-up-reshoots-1100060
APRIL 05, 2018 9:49am PT by Aaron Couch
Tony Gilroy on 'Rogue One' Reshoots: They Were in "Terrible Trouble"
The screenwriter, who salvaged the 'Star Wars' project, says the situation was so dire, "all you could do was improve their position."
Tony Gilroy is getting candid for the first time about his emergency trip to the Star Wars galaxy. . . . Choosing his words carefully, Gilroy signaled how much of the project was changed after he boarded. (Star Ben Mendelsohn has said "an enormously different" version of the film exists.)
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Quote:Director Gareth Edwards' final version of the movie stunk to the heavens. Gilroy was paid $5,000,000 for surgery -- to cut out all the rotten parts that were stinking up Rogue One. Gilroy shot new scenes that were spliced into the movie that went into theaters. He replaced the diseased scenes with healthy tissue.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Gilroy said he came in after the Director's Cut.
www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/rogue-one-writer-tony-gilroy-mak
e-millions-reshoots-951119
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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The whole franchise is going to have to be put on life support.
What nobody here is talking about is the merchandising.
Nobody bought the toys this time around.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lukethompson/2017/12/21/why-arent-star-wa
rs-toys-selling-as-well-this-year/#53dabf2854e5
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-18/-star-wars-toy-sale
s-fall-in-2017-as-movie-tie-fatigue-sets-in
https://www.cosmicbooknews.com/star-wars-last-jedi-toy-sales-tank
http://www.jedinews.co.uk/collecting/articles/brick-fanatics-look-5-re
asons-star-wars-toys-not-selling/
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Try posting that in the TLJ thread.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The whole franchise is going to have to be put on life support.
What nobody here is talking about is the merchandising.
Nobody bought the toys this time around.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lukethompson/2017/12/21/why-arent-star-wa
rs-toys-selling-as-well-this-year/#53dabf2854e5
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-18/-star-wars-toy-sale
s-fall-in-2017-as-movie-tie-fatigue-sets-in
https://www.cosmicbooknews.com/star-wars-last-jedi-toy-sales-tank
http://www.jedinews.co.uk/collecting/articles/brick-fanatics-look-5-re
asons-star-wars-toys-not-selling/
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Anybody who wonders why TLJ toys are not selling has not seen the dreck of TLJ.
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There's no reason not to post it here.
The third paragraph of the very first link:
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First, there's Rogue One, last year's Star Wars movie, which launched a large range of products...and many of them are still hanging around. Retail buyers aren't necessarily toy collectors or fans who distinguish between individual movies, so if they see Star Wars toys from last year still hanging around on shelves, they won't necessarily be excited to order a lot more.
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The merchandising is a big part of the franchise, but when you have 2 movies making over $2 billion together, I don’t think you have to worry about life support just yet. I do think the franchise is on a downward slope, though. I haven’t even finished TLJ yet.
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The merchandising is a big part of the franchise, but when you have 2 movies making over $2 billion together, I don’t think you have to worry about life support just yet. I do think the franchise is on a downward slope, though. I haven’t even finished TLJ yet.
Well... they didn't "make" 2 billion. Not after counting how much it cost to make and advertise the movies.
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[The Force Awakens] broke various box office records and became, unadjusted for inflation, the highest-grossing installment in the franchise, the highest-grossing film in North America, the highest-grossing film of 2015, and the third-highest-grossing film of all time, with a worldwide gross of over $2 billion and a net profit of over $780 million.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Force_Awakens
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Deadline.com calculated the net profit of [Rogue One] to be $319.6 million, when factoring together all expenses and revenues for the film, making it the 3rd most profitable release of 2016.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_One
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[The Last Jedi] is also the second-highest-grossing film of the Star Wars franchise, and turned a net profit of over $417 million.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Last_Jedi
The Three movies, including Rogue One, only "made" 1.5 Billion, and more than half of those profits were from The Force Awakens.
None of these figures account for all of the product advertisement and production costs for products that didn't end up selling well either. I haven't found numbers about these costs at this time. It's possible that the cost for advertising wasn't that much because the makers were depending on the movies to do most of the advertising for them.
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Even more toy-licensed films are scheduled, including the prequel “Solo: A Star Wars Story” and new Transformers, “Fantastic Beasts,” “Jurassic World” and superhero fare. The lesson toymakers will draw from the 2017 slate is that they can’t just rely on the movie to do the marketing anymore.
“There is a new paradigm,” Johnson (an analyst for BMO Capital Markets) said. “Just because there is a movie with a toy tie-in doesn’t necessarily mean it’s going to work. It used to mean it would work.”
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Following the poor box office performance, now it's learned that toy sales for Star Wars: The Last Jedi have tanked big time, which is a major problem as sales on toys can account for upwards of 3 times compared to the movie's gross.
One of the problems that Star Wars now faces is that what was once expected as the norm (making upwards of 3 times the movies gross on toys) is no longer to be expected at all. This is a problem.
If that number is to be believed, the toy sales so far could have possibly meant another $4+ billion dollars if they sold as well as was expected. This is not something that future investors in the franchise are going to disregard.
EDIT: I just re-read that data and the quote says "upwards of 3 times compared to the movie's gross." I was calculating for the Net profits. I'm not sure if the article really meant Gross though. I find it hard to believe that anyone expected the toys from the 3 movies so far were going to pull in somewhere between 14 and 18 Billion... who knows.
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