What "THEY'VE" done to us and it's worse than Paxilon Hydrochlorate (HA, I'M RIGHT, YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST...SULFUR AND AUTISM ARE LINKED)

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WISHIMAY

Tuesday, March 20, 2018 9:18 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

I had been under the impression these were more common. Either I'm just not finding them, or they are less prevalent.

They stopped doing a lot of urban grow projects because people would steal EVERYTHING including the equipment, all the produce, and then sell it off.
Poor people tend to do that...

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, March 20, 2018 2:53 PM

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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Reviewing this, I wonder if Native Americans can adopt more agrarian practice. They seem to have available unimproved land, not apparently used for much. Are the lands they have not rich in agricultural fioundations?
Even cities now have urban agri-centers, producing fresh veggies, fish, etc within buildings or greenhouses. If Tribes have disused manpower, could they not develop resources like this? Are there Federal regulations prohibiting Native Americans from this agricultural freedom and autonomy?
Outside of what Wishi said, the American government DID not give us the best land for growing or hunting on in the beginning.

This is part of what I was wondering. I know some of it was substandard. Was all of it?
And now, with these new Ag practices, essentially indoors and year-round in wintery climates, can these be utilized to counter the disadvantage that Tribes have? Can a Nation just have Tribal land allocated to build upon, or improve upon, and generate produce by and for Tribal members? Or is there too much drug addiction to withstand the actions that Wishi described, like theft, of TribL property?

BRENDA

Wednesday, March 21, 2018 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Reviewing this, I wonder if Native Americans can adopt more agrarian practice. They seem to have available unimproved land, not apparently used for much. Are the lands they have not rich in agricultural fioundations?
Even cities now have urban agri-centers, producing fresh veggies, fish, etc within buildings or greenhouses. If Tribes have disused manpower, could they not develop resources like this? Are there Federal regulations prohibiting Native Americans from this agricultural freedom and autonomy?

Outside of what Wishi said, the American government DID not give us the best land for growing or hunting on in the beginning.
This is part of what I was wondering. I know some of it was substandard. Was all of it?
And now, with these new Ag practices, essentially indoors and year-round in wintery climates, can these be utilized to counter the disadvantage that Tribes have? Can a Nation just have Tribal land allocated to build upon, or improve upon, and generate produce by and for Tribal members? Or is there too much drug addiction to withstand the actions that Wishi described, like theft, of TribL property?

JSF, you have to understand that what you are talking about in the here and now has it roots in what happened 200years ago.

Tribes in the US that I knew about that were agriculturally based before the European arrival were the Hopi and Cherokee.

I looked up also the Zuni as well as the Omaha and the Ponca.

Tribes like the Dakota, Cheyenne, Crow, Apache, my own and others were not agricultural to begin with. Hunters and gatherers.

Your ancestors had centuries to get into a stationary society. We had it foisted on us by the US gov. We were told to change a whole way of living, a whole way of thinking in a year or two. Government agents would watch us to make sure we were "learning" how to do all this.

Weapons such as guns were taken away that we hunted with and then the government decided maybe some of those should be given back. Trade in alcohol, residential schools.

This has all played into what has happened. Tribes are working on getting out of it. It takes time, 200years of wrong isn't going to be fixed in 50years. This is my feeling and what I know of the subject.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, March 21, 2018 8:51 PM

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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Reviewing this, I wonder if Native Americans can adopt more agrarian practice. They seem to have available unimproved land, not apparently used for much. Are the lands they have not rich in agricultural fioundations?
Even cities now have urban agri-centers, producing fresh veggies, fish, etc within buildings or greenhouses. If Tribes have disused manpower, could they not develop resources like this? Are there Federal regulations prohibiting Native Americans from this agricultural freedom and autonomy?
Outside of what Wishi said, the American government DID not give us the best land for growing or hunting on in the beginning.
This is part of what I was wondering. I know some of it was substandard. Was all of it?
And now, with these new Ag practices, essentially indoors and year-round in wintery climates, can these be utilized to counter the disadvantage that Tribes have? Can a Nation just have Tribal land allocated to build upon, or improve upon, and generate produce by and for Tribal members? Or is there too much drug addiction to withstand the actions that Wishi described, like theft, of TribL property?
JSF, you have to understand that what you are talking about in the here and now has it roots in what happened 200years ago.

Tribes in the US that I knew about that were agriculturally based before the European arrival were the Hopi and Cherokee.

I looked up also the Zuni as well as the Omaha and the Ponca.

Tribes like the Dakota, Cheyenne, Crow, Apache, my own and others were not agricultural to begin with. Hunters and gatherers.

Your ancestors had centuries to get into a stationary society. We had it foisted on us by the US gov. We were told to change a whole way of living, a whole way of thinking in a year or two. Government agents would watch us to make sure we were "learning" how to do all this.

Weapons such as guns were taken away that we hunted with and then the government decided maybe some of those should be given back. Trade in alcohol, residential schools.

This has all played into what has happened. Tribes are working on getting out of it. It takes time, 200years of wrong isn't going to be fixed in 50years. This is my feeling and what I know of the subject.

Yes, thanks.

The ag-based Tribes were also nomadic, right? Planted crops and returned later to harvest, right? I remember corn graineries have been found from centuries ago.

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, March 21, 2018 9:55 PM

Yes, JSF...growing corn will fix EVERYTHING.

It'll totally make up for lack of industry, isolation, poverty, and a century or two of institutionalization.

BRENDA

Thursday, March 22, 2018 6:59 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Reviewing this, I wonder if Native Americans can adopt more agrarian practice. They seem to have available unimproved land, not apparently used for much. Are the lands they have not rich in agricultural fioundations?
Even cities now have urban agri-centers, producing fresh veggies, fish, etc within buildings or greenhouses. If Tribes have disused manpower, could they not develop resources like this? Are there Federal regulations prohibiting Native Americans from this agricultural freedom and autonomy?
Outside of what Wishi said, the American government DID not give us the best land for growing or hunting on in the beginning.
This is part of what I was wondering. I know some of it was substandard. Was all of it?
And now, with these new Ag practices, essentially indoors and year-round in wintery climates, can these be utilized to counter the disadvantage that Tribes have? Can a Nation just have Tribal land allocated to build upon, or improve upon, and generate produce by and for Tribal members? Or is there too much drug addiction to withstand the actions that Wishi described, like theft, of TribL property?
JSF, you have to understand that what you are talking about in the here and now has it roots in what happened 200years ago.

Tribes in the US that I knew about that were agriculturally based before the European arrival were the Hopi and Cherokee.

I looked up also the Zuni as well as the Omaha and the Ponca.

Tribes like the Dakota, Cheyenne, Crow, Apache, my own and others were not agricultural to begin with. Hunters and gatherers.

Your ancestors had centuries to get into a stationary society. We had it foisted on us by the US gov. We were told to change a whole way of living, a whole way of thinking in a year or two. Government agents would watch us to make sure we were "learning" how to do all this.

Weapons such as guns were taken away that we hunted with and then the government decided maybe some of those should be given back. Trade in alcohol, residential schools.

This has all played into what has happened. Tribes are working on getting out of it. It takes time, 200years of wrong isn't going to be fixed in 50years. This is my feeling and what I know of the subject.
Yes, thanks.

The ag-based Tribes were also nomadic, right? Planted crops and returned later to harvest, right? I remember corn graineries have been found from centuries ago.

No they weren't. Hopi and Zuni were Pueblo Indians which is why they had graineries that are now being found archaeologically.

BRENDA

Thursday, March 22, 2018 7:00 AM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Yes, JSF...growing corn will fix EVERYTHING.

It'll totally make up for lack of industry, isolation, poverty, and a century or two of institutionalization.

You forgot to mention squash and beans as well Wishi.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, March 22, 2018 7:16 AM

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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Reviewing this, I wonder if Native Americans can adopt more agrarian practice. They seem to have available unimproved land, not apparently used for much. Are the lands they have not rich in agricultural fioundations?
Even cities now have urban agri-centers, producing fresh veggies, fish, etc within buildings or greenhouses. If Tribes have disused manpower, could they not develop resources like this? Are there Federal regulations prohibiting Native Americans from this agricultural freedom and autonomy?
Outside of what Wishi said, the American government DID not give us the best land for growing or hunting on in the beginning.
This is part of what I was wondering. I know some of it was substandard. Was all of it?
And now, with these new Ag practices, essentially indoors and year-round in wintery climates, can these be utilized to counter the disadvantage that Tribes have? Can a Nation just have Tribal land allocated to build upon, or improve upon, and generate produce by and for Tribal members? Or is there too much drug addiction to withstand the actions that Wishi described, like theft, of TribL property?
JSF, you have to understand that what you are talking about in the here and now has it roots in what happened 200years ago.

Tribes in the US that I knew about that were agriculturally based before the European arrival were the Hopi and Cherokee.

I looked up also the Zuni as well as the Omaha and the Ponca.

Tribes like the Dakota, Cheyenne, Crow, Apache, my own and others were not agricultural to begin with. Hunters and gatherers.

Your ancestors had centuries to get into a stationary society. We had it foisted on us by the US gov. We were told to change a whole way of living, a whole way of thinking in a year or two. Government agents would watch us to make sure we were "learning" how to do all this.

Weapons such as guns were taken away that we hunted with and then the government decided maybe some of those should be given back. Trade in alcohol, residential schools.

This has all played into what has happened. Tribes are working on getting out of it. It takes time, 200years of wrong isn't going to be fixed in 50years. This is my feeling and what I know of the subject.
Yes, thanks.

The ag-based Tribes were also nomadic, right? Planted crops and returned later to harvest, right? I remember corn graineries have been found from centuries ago.
No they weren't. Hopi and Zuni were Pueblo Indians which is why they had graineries that are now being found archaeologically.

Thanks for the info.

WISHIMAY

Thursday, March 22, 2018 9:32 AM

Big shocker here...NOT.

https://frontier.yahoo.com/lifestyle/link-gut-health-autoimmune-disord
ers-120024072.html

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, March 23, 2018 5:36 AM

I hope this is not off-topic.

I knew about Aspertame stripped away Myelin (see film Lorenzo's Oil for good Myelin info), leading to paralysis. But this was info I had from 15-20 years ago.

Didn't know about the mental illness caused by it (aka NutraSweet}, how it relates to consumption of other products:

http://www.bollyn.com/how-do-ssri-antidepressants-work

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