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Quote:Trump telling more truth really, really offends you, doesn't it?
Originally posted by second:Quote:JewelStaiteFan, you are no different from Trump. He speaks often of "The Failing New York Times". You and he are using lies as tools. I have found all Republican Texans do the same as you and Trump, at least the ones that are worth my effort to check their truthfulness. They are always the Failing Republican voters. You guys have a perverted relationship with the truth, meaning you won't speak it when you think a lie is more useful.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
nytimes? This is where you fail.
Totally unbiased to define a "deep red District" as one with 35,000 more Democrat voters than Republican.
As a businessman, Trump often fabricated or exaggerated to sell a narrative or advance his interests. In his memoir, “The Art of the Deal,” he called it “truthful hyperbole” or “innocent exaggeration.”
He would call reporters and pretend to be a publicity agent for himself named John Barron or John Miller. He claimed to earn $1 million from a speech when it was $400,000. He claimed to be worth $3.5 billion when seeking a bank loan, four times what the bank eventually found. When trying to lure investors to a hotel project, he had bulldozers dig on one side of the site and dump the dirt on the other to give the impression that the project was making progress.
“He’s a salesman and that’s not about telling the truth, that’s not the DNA about being a salesman,” said Gwenda Blair, the author of “The Trumps: Three Generations of Builders and a President,” a biography of his family. “The DNA of being a salesman is telling people what they want to hear. And he’s got it.”
Trump continued his practice as president. The Washington Post’s fact-checker documented 2,140 false or misleading claims in Trump’s first year in office, a rate of nearly six a day.
A Quinnipiac University poll in January showed that only 35 percent of Americans consider him honest, while 60 percent do not.
Republicans express concern. Amanda Carpenter, a former aide to GOP Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas and former Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina, has a new book coming out in May called “Gaslighting America: Why We Love It When Trump Lies to Us.” On the cover is an illustration of Trump with a Pinocchio nose.
Her explanation is that Trump’s supporters do not see deception, they see a commitment to winning.
“Donald Trump’s lies and fabrications don’t horrify America,” says the publisher’s summary of her book. “They enthrall us.” It is a widespread and serious character defect of Republicans.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/17/us/politics/trump-truth-lies.htm
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
NYT editor was caught on hidden camera targeting the President of the USA, and denying any sort of objectivity.
Quote:So much for the objectivity and sanctity
While talking about being objective at the Times, Dudich replies candidly, "No I'm not, that's why I'm here."
Dudich considers himself an important player at the New York Times, telling the Project Veritas Journalist "my voice is on... my imprint is on every video we do."
Dudich goes on to explain what he might do to target President Trump:
"I'd target his businesses, his dumb fuck of a son, Donald Jr., and Eric...
"Target that. Get people to boycott going to his hotels. Boycott... So a lot of the Trump brands, if you can ruin the Trump brand and you put pressure on his business and you start investigating his business and you start shutting it down, or they're hacking or other things. He cares about his business more than he cares about being President. He would resign. Or he'd lash out and do something incredibly illegal, which he would have to."
When the undercover journalist asks Dudich if he could make sure that the anti-Trump stories make it to the front, he replied, "Oh, we always do."
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
I don't know if other people get the little task bar that shows what's loading up when a page comes up. I've noticed because - I dunno. Just curious. One of the links in the list when clicking on web-pages here is google-analytics.com And what IS google analytics you might ask? Here, let them tell you, in their own words ...
https://www.google.com/analytics/#?modal_active=none
So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?
Yeah... That's one of the unfortunate things about fff.net. It is possible to easily search everything that has ever been posted here through Google because there are permissions to do so. Some other forums I frequent will not allow any Google searches. This may or may not be based in part off of the location of the forum, globally. I dunno.
Everything will always be presented first and foremost as a "marketing tool". What other things that might ultimately mean beyond that is anyone's guess.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-18/edward-snowden-facebook-surv
eillance-company-rebranded-social-media
Edward Snowden: Facebook Is A Surveillance Company Rebranded As "Social Media"
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-19/facebook-tumbles-over-system
ic-problems-data-breach-drags-nasdaq-lower
Facebook Tumbles Over "Systemic Problems" In Data Breach, Drags Nasdaq Lower
So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-18/edward-snowden-facebook-surv
eillance-company-rebranded-social-media
Edward Snowden: Facebook Is A Surveillance Company Rebranded As "Social Media"
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-19/facebook-tumbles-over-system
ic-problems-data-breach-drags-nasdaq-lower
Facebook Tumbles Over "Systemic Problems" In Data Breach, Drags Nasdaq Lower
So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?
This video was posted by somebody else, but I know I saw the original video from the Onion about 10 years ago.
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I know I've posted it here before, several times, and everybody thinks "Oh, it's The Onion. It's just a joke."
Guess not, huh?
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Strange, that one won't work here. Let's try another one that is missing a bit of the beginning.
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Nope.... 3rd times the charm?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:6ix, have you ever tried clicking on your own link? http://fireflyfans.net/mthreaduser.aspx?u=20928
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah... That's one of the unfortunate things about fff.net. It is possible to easily search everything that has ever been posted here through Google because there are permissions to do so. Some other forums I frequent will not allow any Google searches. This may or may not be based in part off of the location of the forum, globally. I dunno.
Your alter ego, 6ixStringJoker, has his own link: www.fireflyfans.net/mthreaduser.aspx?u=51570
The CIA doesn't need Google or Facebook to follow the twists and turns of 6ixStringJack and Joker. And what would the CIA find, anyway, about Al-Qaeda's leadership and your secret plans?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Trump planned yesterday to get tough on the opioid epidemic. There’s a scene in “The Death of Stalin” — the latest feature film from British political satirist Armando Iannucci — where prisoners at one of the Soviet Union’s myriad of prison camps are being lined up and killed. A guard walks from person to person, executing them with a gunshot to the head. Suddenly, a Soviet soldier runs up to the executioner and tells him that the killings have suddenly been called off — orders straight from the top.
The prisoner who was next in line to die looks to his left, pondering the bodies he’s been spared from joining by inexplicable good luck. It’s both horrifying and comical, and reveals the utterly arbitrary way in which the Soviet Union moved people into and out of an out-group worthy of murdering. Which reminds me: Trump wants the death penalty for opioid dealers. https://qz.com/1230401
https://theintercept.com/2018/03/17/the-hilarious-terrifying-british-d
eath-of-stalin-shows-how-american-comedys-gone-wrong/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, have you ever tried clicking on your own link? http://fireflyfans.net/mthreaduser.aspx?u=20928
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah... That's one of the unfortunate things about fff.net. It is possible to easily search everything that has ever been posted here through Google because there are permissions to do so. Some other forums I frequent will not allow any Google searches. This may or may not be based in part off of the location of the forum, globally. I dunno.
Your alter ego, 6ixStringJoker, has his own link: www.fireflyfans.net/mthreaduser.aspx?u=51570
The CIA doesn't need Google or Facebook to follow the twists and turns of 6ixStringJack and Joker. And what would the CIA find, anyway, about Al-Qaeda's leadership and your secret plans?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
I know I'm not hiding anything from the CIA when I post here. They know whatever it is they want to know if it's online, anywhere. That goes for everybody.
I've said before that people using VPNs to "hide" their activity are especially stupid. At best, they're just throwing their money away. At worst, they're put on a watch list just for signing up for one with their credit card.
The only anonymity here is that we don't know each other's names... at least until one of us doxes another. Big Brother knows exactly who I am when I post here if they're keeping up with me.
The only reason I mentioned Google is because I know quite a bit about Google searches and it's relatively easy to find specific posts people have made if you remember a few of the keywords they used. Other sites I'm a part of don't "allow Google Bots". That's only a safeguard from the public doing Google searches on the sites. Big Brother can do whatever it wants, whenever it wants.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by second:
Trump planned yesterday to get tough on the opioid epidemic. There’s a scene in “The Death of Stalin” — the latest feature film from British political satirist Armando Iannucci — where prisoners at one of the Soviet Union’s myriad of prison camps are being lined up and killed. A guard walks from person to person, executing them with a gunshot to the head. Suddenly, a Soviet soldier runs up to the executioner and tells him that the killings have suddenly been called off — orders straight from the top.
The prisoner who was next in line to die looks to his left, pondering the bodies he’s been spared from joining by inexplicable good luck. It’s both horrifying and comical, and reveals the utterly arbitrary way in which the Soviet Union moved people into and out of an out-group worthy of murdering. Which reminds me: Trump wants the death penalty for opioid dealers. https://qz.com/1230401
https://theintercept.com/2018/03/17/the-hilarious-terrifying-british-d
eath-of-stalin-shows-how-american-comedys-gone-wrong/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
I'm only on board with it if that goes for Big Pharma and Doctors too.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Trump said: "That toughness includes the death penalty." Then the crowd cheered.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm only on board with it if that goes for Big Pharma and Doctors too.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I must add that I hope Trump has his White House staff draft legislation and the GOP controlled Congress passes it with nearly every Republican voting for and nearly every Democrat voting against. That would make it very clear, even to voters that seldom vote because they dislike both major parties, that the GOP is dissimilar to the Democratic Party. But who knows? I suspect from my experience that most "Independent" voters will never understand the difference between parties until every GOP Congressman votes one way and every Democratic Congressman votes in the opposite direction on every issue, including the death penalty.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/19/17138948/trump-mueller-firin
g-russia
The process of getting rid of Mueller is much more complicated and legally fraught than, say, firing FBI Director James Comey or Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. Furthermore, dismissing Mueller himself wouldn’t end Mueller’s investigation — an even more controversial intervention would be required for that. Then, even if he pulled it off, Mueller’s firing would likely lead to a flood of leaks. Finally, the ensuing backlash could help Democrats regain control of Congress — which could make Trump’s legal and political situation even worse.
It is certainly possible that Trump could change his mind and decide that, despite all this, Mueller’s probe is so dangerous that it’s worth casting caution to the wind and firing him. But he’s been afraid to take that step so far — and for some very good reasons.
1) Firing Mueller would be much more procedurally complicated and legally challenging than firing Comey or Tillerson
Last week, President Trump fired Secretary of State Rex Tillerson with a tweet. Last May, he fired FBI Director James Comey with a signed letter. Both men served at the president’s pleasure — all the president had to do was say the word, and they were gone.
Things aren’t so simple with Mueller. The special counsel was appointed under a Justice Department regulation that sets restrictions on just how and why he can be fired.
The how, in this case, is by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein (since his boss Jeff Sessions recused himself). Rosenstein appointed Mueller, and according to the regulation, he’s the only person who can fire him.
Then there’s the why, which is also very important here. The regulation states that a special counsel can’t be fired on a whim. Instead, it says, he or she can only be fired for “misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause.”
If Trump truly was hell-bent on dumping Mueller, these problems probably wouldn’t be insurmountable. But the solutions aren’t pretty — they all involve either more firings or some questionable legal claims.
Regarding the why, the regulation does say a special counsel can be fired for “conflict of interest” — which may explain some of Trump’s recent tweets:
Much more at www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/19/17138948/trump-mueller-firin
g-russia
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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