Browncoats, this is our turning point!
POSTED BY: techiecl
UPDATED: Friday, November 26, 2004 05:14
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I've never been so proud to be part of a fandom.
With this news, we're all so disappointed, so I expected more sniping, more bitterness...
But everyone is being so unbelievably classy, smart and compassionate/encouraging each other fans. I'm so awed and proud at the utter lack of bullsh*t over this.
You're all awesome. 
I love my fandom.
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*closes the door to his bunk, through which many loud noises, crashing and screaming can be heard*
*steps out looking calm*
Okay, I'm fine. I can wait another five months. The fanfics, and such have never been my thing, but the artwork is always good. Now we have several months for trailers which are always just as good as the movie, and an artform unto themselves. I still have my DVDs and a lot of friends to convert. Now I have five extra months to get a party together.
I admit to some initial... misgivings. But I'm past all that now, and I've moved onto acceptance.
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Originally posted by Channain:
Me? I'm going with the "best side" and taking the high road. Who's with me?
"If it was anyone of us, the Captain wouldn't hesitate."
I know it doesn't really fit, but that scene keeps popping into my head. We now have five extra months to promote the movie and wait for it. September may not be the ideal month for movies but that just means Serenity will get all sorts of attention (and the box office records are much easier to break than in May
).And nothing says sequel more than biggest opening weekend box office ever in September!!!!!
Serenity
September competitionSo, yes, when it comes to the high road I'm right there with you!
note: just so everyone doesn't think I've ignored the other posts I actually wrote the response 2 hours ago, just couldn't finish and post it at the time.
If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do. -"Angel"
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Originally posted by techiecl:
Domestic grosses of past late september movies:
[snipped from Aint it cool news]
* Rush Hour (9/18/98) $141.1
* American Beauty (9/15/99) $130.0
* Remember the Titans (9/29/00) $115.6
* Sweet Home Alabama (9/27/02) $127.2
* School of Rock (10/3/03) $81.2
So late September ain't a "Loser" date.
Thinking back, the above titles sound like the biggest grossing movies of their season. There also may be a declining trend, there -- only Sweet Home Alabama excepted. I may be out of date but, conventional wisdom used to be that a film needed domestic gross of three times direct production costs in order to earn a profit. On that basis, Firefly will have to be the biggest September release in over half a decade, in order to avoid the "Loser" label.
I'll do what I can but, Universal is gonna have to come up with a helluva promo campaign.
Keep the Shiny Side Up
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Actually from what current standards and budgets of movies, I believe a film making its budget back is a sign of success. The real profit comes from merchandising, licensensing, and dvd sales/rentals.
And 'versal, knows that'd for every TV series box set sold is an indicator of "Serenity" DVD sold (especially if they split it among a normal and a special edition dvd 6 months later).
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Originally posted by techiecl:
And 'versal, knows that'd for every TV series box set sold is an indicator of "Serenity" DVD sold (especially if they split it among a normal and a special edition dvd 6 months later).
Be interesting to see. Personally, I think 20th Century Fox Television Productions (not the FOX TV network) will get a big boost in DVD sales when the BDM comes out.
And I've bought five sets of the DVDs, 'cause nobody had a chance to see the real show on TV. I won't feel the same way about the movie, so I can't see myself buying that many copies of it.
Keep the Shiny Side Up
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Sure it's disapppointing to wait another 5 months, but with all the great Browncoats here, the journey to September will be shorter.
Besides, Joss won't let us down.
Keeper of Jayne's goggles. 8)
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Something's fishy here. I suspect we're never going to see this movie. I sure hope I'm wrong, but mark my words. Even Joss said he hopes they won't change the date again. I suspect he's being lied to...again.
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Techiecl wrote:
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As I see it, we Browncoats are at a turning point in the fandom.
Do we become angry, spiteful, embittered fans? and complain to Universal about this delay?
OR
Do we regroup and rededicate ourselves and remind people we are the fandom that: donated to charities in the name of Firefly, are sending DVD sets to troops, donating DVD sets to libraries...
We're more than just a fandom. We're a true community. So let's make the right choice, and stick together, and make the most of these five months to make "Serenity" the best damn September movie ever.
I agree Techie, and I hope that everyone here finds their way to the latter rather than the former.
We have been through a lot as a fanbase. For those that have been around since the beginning, we've seem more than others. The pilot being kicked to the curb (because the nitwits at Fox don't know a good thing when it slaps them in the face), the network airing the episodes out of order, the prempting for sports, etc. Then came the frantic messages of bad ratings and the whispers of the dreaded "hiatus". When word was passed down of the "hiatus" (the p.c. way of not saying cancelled) we fought like mad to save the show. There was letter and post card campaigns, online petitions, and emails galore.
When the word came down that Fox in their infinite ignorance was cancelling our show, we dug in for the long fight and again took up post card campaigns to which ever network Joss was shopping Firefly to at that time.
Then word came that no one was buying. That had to have been the lowest I have ever seen the fanbase. We were devastated. Joss and the cast were devastated.
So we pushed for DVDs. Against hope and despite the critism of many online sites, we pushed, and Joss pushed. We got our big shiny DVDs.
You all know this story, except for maybe some of the newer Browncoats, those as came after they saw the show on DVD. You all know, but it seems at times some of us have forgotten what we have gone through to get where we are now. Critics, trolls, and fools at networks said Firefly was a dead show and no one would touch a cancelled show. We didn't give up and neither did Joss. Now we have the BDM. The fanbase is bigger than anyone ever dreamed possible. We have done the impossible and you know what that makes us.
So the movie is put off a few months. So what? As long as we have waited and as hard as we have fought, we can do five months standing on our heads while whistling the Ballad of Serenity.
Time to tug our brown coats straight, check our pistols in their holsters, and get ready for what is to come.
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Channain wrote:
And use up otherwise valuable space on this site raging against a machine, using vulgar language that may turn away new fans who come here, see one unfortunate word and never come back again?
I've spent time raging against the machines and you know what? It doesn't do much good except to lower my stress level.
Postponed in this case does not mean it's been tossed in the dustbin. Anyone who paid close attention to the easy rhythm in Joss's message would see that.
It means five more months to plan even bigger damn movie parties. Five more months to convert more people to the wonderfulness that is Firefly. Five more months to build our fandom from something amazing into something truly spectacular.
Me? I'm going with the "best side" and taking the high road. Who's with me?
Fans come and fans go...but zealots are with you until the bitter black end.
You know Channy, this is why I love you. You are a true Browncoat.
Channy is right. Belly aching gets us nowhere. Joss and 'Versal need our support now more than ever. We need to get out there and push the DVD set, the BDM and convert more Browncoats. We have been given and extra 5 months to add to our ranks and get more people in the theatre to fill seats for the BDM. We all know that any future films depend on the success of this movie. We have as much to do w/ that s
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Channain, Browncoat1: all of you who are being so encouraging and -- I lack the words to express what I'm trying to say here. You've made me cry a little in a good way, seeing how awesome everyone is here, how tenacious and devoted.
I'm seeing the spirit of theme song embodied in so many posts, I'm seeing Mal's refusal to lay down and die in the face of bitter disappointment. I can't help but think about that big red button to call everyone back, about Mal's rallying of the troops in Serenity Valley.
I'm seeing everything I love about our show and our big damn heroes embodied in the fandom. We're going to hold this valley, browncoats, until our movie comes out and awes us all.
Next summer and fall, we are going to share delighted grins at every scan of a magazine ad, every tv spot, every poster spotted, every trailer. There's going to be merchandise and every browncoat's wallet is going to be hurting a bit. I have no doubt that, if there's action figures -- and there better be gorram action figures *ahem* -- we're going to get posed photographs with captions running from the sublime to the obscene and it'll add to the general excitement.
The novelisation will come out and there will be much debate over reading it or not, over needing a fix because it's been so long versus not wanting to be spoiled for the actual movie experience.
I heard talk of a comic-book adaptation, too, so we'll have the art to debate/delight over, and which lines are included from the movie or not...
And we're going to hit that last ten-day countdown so utterly giddy and when we see our little ship and our disreputable crew up on the big screen, we're going to know we've made it this far, we've done the impossible and it does make us, Joss, our BDHs -- all of us -- mighty.
Then we're going to watch the money the movie makes and grin delightedly and smugly to one another as Fox and all the detractors are proven so very, very wrong.
We're going to have the sheer glee of sequels being announced, and the countdown to an amazing dvd release.
And we're just going to go from strength to strength.
So we hold this valley, no matter what.
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