Black Panther

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
JSF - well, the movie doesn't cure cancer, or give you the meaning of life. Least, I don't think it does. But it's fun to watch.

Now, in the string of over hyped under delivering super hero movies - Suicide Squad, BvS , Thor: Ragnarok, Wonder Woman, Justice League, this movie DID lack something. A insanely over the top CGI on steroids climactic ending which brought the overall quality of the movie down a couple of notches. ( Now, Thor - R did call for such CGI , but to be honest, the rest of the movie let me down, so it all evens out )

Spider-Man was darn good too, but I felt the major flaw was the ferry scene. Too much. Wasn't necessary for the plot. I get there had to be SOME reason for him to get demoted , as it were, but that boat sinks in no time flat , and there's nothing either of them could have done about it. That's all.

Of those, I've seen WW and am on the waiting list for Thor. Are you saying Spidey was better than the rest?

And thanks for the honest input.

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:58 PM

Thanks for the heads up Wish. There use to be an article in the local paper (can't remember the guy's name) that would give some info on the odds for scratch-offs plus how often they have winners, and the last time someone had won.

Haven't seen that lately. Seems that the odds are better with scratch-offs.

SGG

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:

Anywho, I mostly buy scratch-off tickets now for a few bucks. I actually won $50 once.

We're doing well then, we won $500 bucks twice... One went to car repairs and the other went to a Indy zoo trip. On the scratch-offs, pay attention to the corner number of the tickets you buy...different states tend to put winners either on high number or low numbered tickets.

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:13 PM

No, I haven't seen Luke Cage. Caught him on Jessica Jones, but truly, his character doesn't appeal to me. Although I liked JJ, I'm not too keen on him. But I recently caught a YouTube video that compared other black superheroes/heroes and this is what Icame up with:

Morpheus (The Matrix is just too cool)
Blade/Black Panther
Storm - X Men
Agent J (Will Smith of MIB)

I may be missing a few, but it's interesting how BP has changed the landscape.

SGG

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Did you watch Luke Cage, SGG? I'm just wondering if anybody here has seen both and thinks this movie is objectively better. Luke Cage was terrible and was the first Marvel show I stopped watching mid-season, and it was lauded by critics.

It seems like Black Panther might actually be different though. People I watch and people I know in RL that have seen it and have said they think they're done with Superhero movies were really impressed with this one.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:32 PM

That's certainly wierd. The theater I went to was packed to the rafters. People brought their kids and they actually behaved themselves, stood still to enjoy the movie (there were maybe a couple of young kids that did some running around, but, for the most part, they kept their seats.

I saw all manner of people lined up (I got there a half hour early, cause I wanted a good seat). I would say the majority of people on the line were comic book fan boys and girls (about half); now these were adults - perhaps in their 30s. And about a third were families, there were several folks that were couples as well.

I saw a handful of black folk wearing colorful clothes and using Dashikis. The theater was filled with all manner of people. Young, old, black, white, hispanic, boys and girls. Whenever I saw really young black kids I took special care to watch their reaction as they came into the room. Those kids were "jacked" (excited) and scampered about to find good seating. Throughout the movie the entire audience was riveted, their attention solely on the screen.

This movie was well done and presented itself extremely well. I rate Thor 3 just slightly above BP, but they did a fantastic job with the movie as a whole. The costumes were some of the best I've seen and rivaled the ones from Thor Ragnarok.

But I am curious as to why anyone would buy up tickets and not show up for the screening. It just doesn't make sense.

SGG

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I heard that some groups like Black Lives Don't Matter took out large blocks of tickets to give to only Black kids. So maybe Black kids in your hood were illiterate, couldn't read the signs? Even heard Big Brothers did so, wasting the money from contributors like me - errr, former contributor.

I have to say, as many theatres now have assigned seating and pre-ordering tickets is such common place, it was quite a noticeable difference, to see so many 'unavailable ' seats for purchase, and the actual empty seats when I got there. And I looked at multiple show times too, all mostly sold out, until finally getting a ticket for later in the afternoon.

Interesting note, there was a group of black folks , all wearing different but awesome looking Dashiki shirts, walking in right before me. Was I going to be th only white guy in there ? Turns out, they were the only ones, and the theatre was at most 1/3 full. The large section of centre aisle seats , the prime viewing ones, went almost entirely unused.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:46 PM

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...the critics giving it a near 100% and playing up the race aspect of it without even reviewing the movie is a huge turn off for me, but I'm willing to look beyond that given the people I know who have seen it and actually like it for the story it tells and its entertainment value.

This is what I'm saying...Think of it this way: in a purely British movie they walk and talk like Brits; this movie has elements of that. Like I said, it's kind of like Shakespeare. Their accents are almost like that of Kenyans or South Africans. Anyway, the story is good, well written, and the jokes will make you chuckle. It moves along at a nice pace (the 2 hours go by like that); and it's thoroughly entertaining.

If you liked 'Creed' you'll like this movie, same director.

SGG

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:51 PM

Hey Rap,

I agree with most of what you say, but, you really didn't like Thor Ragnarok?
Also, you're right about giving your attention to the story, if it's good, that's what counts.

SGG

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm not a comic book guy. I know an effort was made to pay homage to the comic book origins of the Netflix characters, but honestly, I really don't care. It's what's on screen that makes or breaks it for me.

Daredevil and Punisher are very good. Jessica Jones and Luke Cage, also well done. ( Krysten Ritter is sooo easy to watch )

I really think they screwed the pooch on Iron Fist though.

I hope Deadpool 2 strikes lightning again. I freaking love everything about that movie.

I waited all damn summer for Thor: Ragnarok to come out, and honestly, I was let down. It was too campy, and imo, went too far in poking fun at itself. Or trying to, at least.

Back to Black Panther - it was smartly done, for the most part. There were minor flaws, but those were vastly overshadowed by the good stuff. Like Captain America, the movie goes to the origins of the character we've seen in the MCU , but knew so little about. The UN scene at the end... really liked that one.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, February 20, 2018 6:37 PM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
No, I haven't seen Luke Cage. Caught him on Jessica Jones, but truly, his character doesn't appeal to me. Although I liked JJ, I'm not too keen on him. But I recently caught a YouTube video that compared other black superheroes/heroes and this is what Icame up with:

Morpheus (The Matrix is just too cool)
Blade/Black Panther
Storm - X Men
Agent J (Will Smith of MIB)

I may be missing a few, but it's interesting how BP has changed the landscape.

SGG

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Did you watch Luke Cage, SGG? I'm just wondering if anybody here has seen both and thinks this movie is objectively better. Luke Cage was terrible and was the first Marvel show I stopped watching mid-season, and it was lauded by critics.

It seems like Black Panther might actually be different though. People I watch and people I know in RL that have seen it and have said they think they're done with Superhero movies were really impressed with this one.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I actually liked Luke Cage in Jessica Jones. Honestly, I didn't mind him specifically in Luke Cage either. It really was the bad guy that I didn't like at all. Seriously man, if you watch one thing from that turd you should see the little monologue that he gives to Biggie Smalls while somebody is looking at a painting he has hung in his office with a bunch of lights lighting it up.

I'm willing to bet $1000 bucks that a white guy who was in his teens during the late 90's wrote that.

Then you've got the obligatory barber shop with your stereotypical black people inside of it. And jeez... I dunno... It was crap. Even though it was rated one of the best Marvel things that Netflix ever did. Seriously, if it was just a story with a bunch of white guys in it and it was written that poorly then everyone would have rightfully shit all over it.

Morpheus... one of the coolest characters ever made. I wish the Matrix was a standalone movie and they never made those other two pieces of shit. I think the biggest sins those second two movies made was taking all of the power and mystique away from Morpheus and basically making him middle management for some other asshole.

Blade two is one of my favorite Comic Book movies, and probably one of my favorite action movies ever made. I'm sure the special effects probably don't stand up today, but I remember seeing that in the theater when it came out and I was truly blown away.

Storm... Sadly, not a good character. Hallie Berry is a great actress and I had a HUGE crush on her when I was a kid, but I thought she was the weakest link on the X-Men.

Agent J. Who doesn't love Will Smith? Hell... I'm one of the few people I know who really liked Wild Wild West that came out around the same time. Everybody shits on that movie today, but Wild Wild West holds a place in my heart right next to Waterworld and The Postman as movies that the world hates but I love to watch every 5 or so years.

Don't forget Spawn. That to me was another highly underrated Superhero Movie that I loved when I saw it in the theater.

BTW... here you go. They had the Biggie Smalls scene on YouTube:

Yes... The villian's name is Cottonmouth. God that's just terrible.

EDIT: I had to swap out the video for a netflix preview that only shows the first part of it. The entire scene is 2 1/2 minutes long and is up on YouTube, but it's got a very loud Tupac track in the background that makes it almost impossible to hear the dialogue.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, February 20, 2018 6:48 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
]Of those, I've seen WW and am on the waiting list for Thor. Are you saying Spidey was better than the rest?

And thanks for the honest input.

I thought Spidey and WW were tops on that list, yeah. Had the ending of WW not been so cartoonish, I'd have given it a nod over Spidey.

Maybe I WANTED to like Suicide Squad more, so that's why I'm not completely trashing it, but yeah, it was the worst of the bunch. All others had elements which I enjoyed, but also considerable flaws.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, February 20, 2018 6:52 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm not a comic book guy. I know an effort was made to pay homage to the comic book origins of the Netflix characters, but honestly, I really don't care. It's what's on screen that makes or breaks it for me.

Daredevil and Punisher are very good. Jessica Jones and Luke Cage, also well done. ( Krysten Ritter is sooo easy to watch )

I really think they screwed the pooch on Iron Fist though.

I hope Deadpool 2 strikes lightning again. I freaking love everything about that movie.

I waited all damn summer for Thor: Ragnarok to come out, and honestly, I was let down. It was too campy, and imo, went too far in poking fun at itself. Or trying to, at least.

Back to Black Panther - it was smartly done, for the most part. There were minor flaws, but those were vastly overshadowed by the good stuff. Like Captain America, the movie goes to the origins of the character we've seen in the MCU , but knew so little about. The UN scene at the end... really liked that one.

I collected comics when I was a kid, but it was more of an OCD thing, and I thought I was going to be rich off of them someday so I almost always immediately bagged them and put them away. They're not worth the paper they were printed on. So... I'm not really a comic book guy either.

I love Krysten Ritter. Nuff said. ;)

Jessica Jones was a good character, but her nemesis is what I felt made the Netflix show. That's why I'm a little worried about season 2. IMO, Killgrave was probably the best villian in a Marvel title to date, and the writing and acting in that show were just superb.

I've never seen anything to do with Thor or Captain America outside of the two Avengers movies. Neither of those characters ever did anything for me. I'm sure the movies aren't bad, but I just don't have any interest.

Deadpool shocked me. I had no idea what I was getting into when I started it and I really don't remember laughing out loud at some parts of it in quite some time. I've never really been a fanboy of anything except for maybe Firefly when I saw it, but my love for the first Deadpool movie might be as close as I ever come.

Black Panther has piqued my curiosity though. I like the idea of a Superhero movie taking a more serious tone than most Marvel fare while also not becoming a depressing nightmare world of the DC Snyderverse. I'm sure I'll eventually give it a watch.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, February 20, 2018 6:59 PM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:

But I am curious as to why anyone would buy up tickets and not show up for the screening. It just doesn't make sense.

SGG

Been to this cinema before, and hadn't notice such a discrepancy. You can see what seats are available online before you purchase, and as I said, it wasn't until mid afternoon before I could find a seat which wasn't front row or very last row. This to me says 'sellout ', or very nearly so. When I did get a seat, it was mid level, but on the aisle. Every seat above and below , aisle to aisle, was " not available ", and yet when I got to the movie, only a smattering of people were actually sitting in those seats. Most were wide open. I fully expected it to fill in, as the movie started, but it never did.

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