Black Panther
POSTED BY: SHINYGOODGUY
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 29, 2026 19:09
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Did you watch Luke Cage, SGG? I'm just wondering if anybody here has seen both and thinks this movie is objectively better. Luke Cage was terrible and was the first Marvel show I stopped watching mid-season, and it was lauded by critics.
It seems like Black Panther might actually be different though. People I watch and people I know in RL that have seen it and have said they think they're done with Superhero movies were really impressed with this one.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I heard that some groups like Black Lives Don't Matter took out large blocks of tickets to give to only Black kids. So maybe Black kids in your hood were illiterate, couldn't read the signs? Even heard Big Brothers did so, wasting the money from contributors like me - errr, former contributor.
I have to say, as many theatres now have assigned seating and pre-ordering tickets is such common place, it was quite a noticeable difference, to see so many 'unavailable ' seats for purchase, and the actual empty seats when I got there. And I looked at multiple show times too, all mostly sold out, until finally getting a ticket for later in the afternoon.
Interesting note, there was a group of black folks , all wearing different but awesome looking Dashiki shirts, walking in right before me. Was I going to be th only white guy in there ?
Turns out, they were the only ones, and the theatre was at most 1/3 full. The large section of centre aisle seats , the prime viewing ones, went almost entirely unused. Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Quote:The trailers that I've seen do not reflect a single facet of what you've said. I'll likely catch it on DVD, I'm already on the waiting list for Thor.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Saw it. Really really liked it. May be the best Marvel movie yet. Certainly ranks up near my fav, Captain America.
All the good parts from above. Well shot, great *cast, characters, liked the writing... nice mix of action, humor, and credible plot line.
Minor issue I had w/ the political narrative - the US isn't / wasn't , anywhere near the level of England, Spain , or France a " colonial " power. I hate that theme being shoved down people's throats as being part of actual history. Its WAS a former colony , for pete's stake !
* Forest Whitaker - fine actor and all, but I just didn't buy him for this part. I think it could have been better if a lesser known actor filled this part.
Also, I really liked Martin Freeman in his role. His character did seem a bit out of place, but I think he worked well as a sort of tie in to Avengers: Civil War. He's sort of the Agent Coulson of the MCU , going forward.
Curious side note - tried to buy an early Sunday ticket, but the online seat selections were very scarce. Only 1st row and not much else available. Wasn't until later in the day I could find a decent seat. Oddly, when I got there, the theatre isn't even 1/2 sold out. All those ' not available ' seats were almost entirely available. I'd say the near sold out movie was only 1/3 full.
Don't recall seeing that before.
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Quote:Yes, I have seen that before. Mentioned it a few times, but forget now which films they were.
Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:I have to say, as many theatres now have assigned seating and pre-ordering tickets is such common place, it was quite a noticeable difference, to see so many 'unavailable ' seats for purchase, and the actual empty seats when I got there. And I looked at multiple show times too, all mostly sold out, until finally getting a ticket for later in the afternoon.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I heard that some groups like Black Lives Don't Matter took out large blocks of tickets to give to only Black kids. So maybe Black kids in your hood were illiterate, couldn't read the signs? Even heard Big Brothers did so, wasting the money from contributors like me - errr, former contributor.
Interesting note, there was a group of black folks , all wearing different but awesome looking Dashiki shirts, walking in right before me. Was I going to be th only white guy in there ?
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Did you watch Luke Cage, SGG? I'm just wondering if anybody here has seen both and thinks this movie is objectively better. Luke Cage was terrible and was the first Marvel show I stopped watching mid-season, and it was lauded by critics.
It seems like Black Panther might actually be different though. People I watch and people I know in RL that have seen it and have said they think they're done with Superhero movies were really impressed with this one.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I like Luke Cage. IMO, the weakest of all the Netflix Marvel shows, 'millennial' Iron Fist ...but I digress. Rosario Dawson , who in IRL is a true communist seems to have worked some of her own political views into her character, but thankfully not overly so. I've no problem when shows deal w/ the real history of slavery, and giving the black point of view. But that's not where I think the focus should be, and the more they try to amp up this racial animus towards folks of today, who have nothing to do w/ the views and events of the past, it takes away from what's so far a very good story.
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The trailers that I've seen do not reflect a single facet of what you've said. I'll likely catch it on DVD, I'm already on the waiting list for Thor.
Newsflash - trailers aren't always accurate to what's in the movie. If you've not seen it, kinda hard for you to comment. I actually try to avoid trailers, talk of upcoming movies I am eager to see, because I want to go in w/ a few preconceptions of what to look for as possible.
I try not to be spoilery on such films , especially in the first couple or 3 weeks.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I like Luke Cage. IMO, the weakest of all the Netflix Marvel shows, 'millennial' Iron Fist ...but I digress. Rosario Dawson , who in IRL is a true communist seems to have worked some of her own political views into her character, but thankfully not overly so. I've no problem when shows deal w/ the real history of slavery, and giving the black point of view. But that's not where I think the focus should be, and the more they try to amp up this racial animus towards folks of today, who have nothing to do w/ the views and events of the past, it takes away from what's so far a very good story.
I didn't even watch Iron Fist. I feel like that's the beginning of Marvel scraping the bottom of the barrel. The only reason that I gave Luke Cage a try is because he was in Jessica Jones, which I actually thought so far was by far the best Netflix Marvel show. Season 2 of that is the only show I plan on even watching in the future... maybe I'll watch more Daredevil and the Punisher... I'm not even sure.
Luke Cage seemed like it was written by out of touch white guys and what they think that black culture is like "in da hood". I mentioned that in the Other Sci Fi thread before. The white idiots I hung out with back in my early 20's when I was an idiot myself would have loved it. Especially that stupid Ode to Biggy Smalls B.S. The show came off as extremely fake and I couldn't relate to any of the characters at all. It was garbage.
I have no interest in watching any of the Marvel movies anymore either except for Deadpool 2. I might give Black Panther a watch though. Too many people who's opinions I respect think that it was really good. Sure... the critics giving it a near 100% and playing up the race aspect of it without even reviewing the movie is a huge turn off for me, but I'm willing to look beyond that given the people I know who have seen it and actually like it for the story it tells and its entertainment value.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I'm not a comic book guy. I know an effort was made to pay homage to the comic book origins of the Netflix characters, but honestly, I really don't care. It's what's on screen that makes or breaks it for me.
Daredevil and Punisher are very good. Jessica Jones and Luke Cage, also well done. ( Krysten Ritter is sooo easy to watch )
I really think they screwed the pooch on Iron Fist though.
I hope Deadpool 2 strikes lightning again. I freaking love everything about that movie.
I waited all damn summer for Thor: Ragnarok to come out, and honestly, I was let down. It was too campy, and imo, went too far in poking fun at itself. Or trying to, at least.
Back to Black Panther - it was smartly done, for the most part. There were minor flaws, but those were vastly overshadowed by the good stuff. Like Captain America, the movie goes to the origins of the character we've seen in the MCU , but knew so little about. The UN scene at the end... really liked that one. 
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I understand that trailers are not the film. But ad avoidance is Near impossible the last few weeks.
Quote:The sting of disappointment with The Last Jedi after the same hype scenario has left me wary.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:Sure... the critics giving it a near 100% and playing up the race aspect of it without even reviewing the movie is a huge turn off for me, but I'm willing to look beyond that given the people I know who have seen it and actually like it for the story it tells and its entertainment value.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I like Luke Cage. IMO, the weakest of all the Netflix Marvel shows, 'millennial' Iron Fist ...but I digress. Rosario Dawson , who in IRL is a true communist seems to have worked some of her own political views into her character, but thankfully not overly so. I've no problem when shows deal w/ the real history of slavery, and giving the black point of view. But that's not where I think the focus should be, and the more they try to amp up this racial animus towards folks of today, who have nothing to do w/ the views and events of the past, it takes away from what's so far a very good story.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Anywho, I mostly buy scratch-off tickets now for a few bucks. I actually won $50 once.
We're doing well then, we won $500 bucks twice... One went to car repairs and the other went to a Indy zoo trip. On the scratch-offs, pay attention to the corner number of the tickets you buy...different states tend to put winners either on high number or low numbered tickets.
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JSF - well, the movie doesn't cure cancer, or give you the meaning of life. Least, I don't think it does. But it's fun to watch.
Now, in the string of over hyped under delivering super hero movies - Suicide Squad, BvS , Thor: Ragnarok, Wonder Woman, Justice League, this movie DID lack something. A insanely over the top CGI on steroids climactic ending which brought the overall quality of the movie down a couple of notches. ( Now, Thor - R did call for such CGI , but to be honest, the rest of the movie let me down, so it all evens out )
Spider-Man was darn good too, but I felt the major flaw was the ferry scene. Too much. Wasn't necessary for the plot. I get there had to be SOME reason for him to get demoted , as it were, but that boat sinks in no time flat , and there's nothing either of them could have done about it. That's all.
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