The risk of nuclear war under Trump
POSTED BY: captaincrunch
UPDATED: Thursday, May 7, 2026 16:28
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I was thinking of the myth of the uneducated, plain-spoken American. The one who is too uneducated to speak anything but common sense and unvarnished truth. Even if that common sense turns out to be nonsense, and that truth mere 'truthiness'. Bush Jr. and Reagan had that going.
When Americans want to think well of themselves, they want to see what they think is their reflection in those people, instead of educated nuance.
But I get your point about distraction from the daily grind. It's not as if we can tell ourselves we're working for a better life or a better world. We know that we're just going to get through today to have another helping of the same tomorrow, if we're lucky.
HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?
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Quote:You're kidding, right? I once heard a story from an (illegal Guatemalan) housekeeper who told me about a time, during a great agitation for labor rights, of a union meeting that was called at their village church. All in all, about 400 villagers showed up. And then a Gutemalan right-wing death squad gunned them all down.
Why do you think the 1% can bully the other 99%? It certainly is not because the 1% are belligerent.
What have we been posting about all along? The belligerance of the elite's army, right? And as for our internal policies ... did you know that we have the highest incarceration rate in the world?
Quote:I have to agree with KIKI- you should get out more. Are you so fixated on Americans being purposefully stupid and chicken that when some show up who aren't, you can;t imagine that they're American?
With 1kiki and Signym, I don't believe they are who they pretend to be: American citizens. If they are Russian trolls or spambots, they are doing their jobs well and nobly serving their country. Congratulations to them both! But if they actually live in America, they've both had a very odd upbringing. Still I can say Congratulations to them both for writing well and from their hearts.
This guy, he's American:
So is this guy
And this guy ...
But, aside from THEM, there is ..... YOU. YOU seem to be decrying the same things that they are: the rape of the world by the elite. Aren't you American? And then there is ME: You and I seem to be saying the same thing. So why are fighting me? Are you one of those people who can't take "yes" for an answer?
Well, in any case, your thinking stops at ordinary Americans. But you seem to forget that ordinary Americans aren't really driving this bus. Ordinary Americans aren't deciding what to put on the news, what to show on TV, what religion to preach, the amount and content of advertising. If you're going to blame somebody for the shape the world is in, why don't you go one step farther and at least share some of the blame with the people who are in charge: the sociopathic elite?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
America is an oligarchy
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Originally posted by SIGNYM: Ordinary Americans aren't deciding what to put on the news, what to show on TV, what religion to preach, the amount and content of advertising.
Actually, in fact, they do. Maybe your *world view* such as it is, would be better informed if you didn't take cues from illegal Guatemalan house keepers?
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Quote:UNLIKE YOU (the deliberately uninformed GSTRING) I make it a POINT to talk to people from other nations: The Syrian Xtian programmer-intern; the Tunisian who sells condiments at the farmer's market, the professor's housekeeper. They tell me things you would never read in our MSM.
Actually, in fact, they do. Maybe your *world view* such as it is, would be better informed if you didn't take cues from illegal Guatemalan house keepers?
If there wasn't actual EVIDENCE to back up USA support/ complicity in Central/ South American death squads, I'd have put her statement in the vast "interesting if true" warehouse, but the reality is that there is far too much supporting evidence to dismiss her story out-or-hand, as you seem anxious to do.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
America is an oligarchy
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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He's much more comfortable with the narrative that Trump and Pence have blood on their hands because of the shooting yesterday.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM: Ordinary Americans aren't deciding what to put on the news, what to show on TV, what religion to preach, the amount and content of advertising.
Actually, in fact, they do. Maybe your *world view* such as it is, would be better informed if you didn't take cues from illegal Guatemalan house keepers?
Funny, add to that you can't believe sig didn't just make up what she posted. Lying is what she does most.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:UNLIKE YOU (the deliberately uninformed GSTRING) I make it a POINT to talk to people from other nations: The Syrian Xtian programmer-intern; the Tunisian who sells condiments at the farmer's market, the professor's housekeeper. They tell me things you would never read in our MSM.
Actually, in fact, they do. Maybe your *world view* such as it is, would be better informed if you didn't take cues from illegal Guatemalan house keepers?
Wow! Mark the calendar, SIGNYM cracked it! Immigrants tell us unique things not heard in the MSM!
Remember that story I related about the Ukrainian Uber driver? No? There's more - you aren't the only person who knows other people. Gah.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If there wasn't actual EVIDENCE to back up USA support/ complicity with Russia, or if the main players involved didn't have such an abundant history of graft and murder that is plainly obvious for even the dullest to see, I'd have put the story in the vast "interesting if true" warehouse, but the reality is that there is far too much supporting evidence to dismiss this story out-or-hand, as I was so anxious to do.
Fixed that for you.
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Quote:Nope!
Remember that story I related about the Ukrainian Uber driver?- GSTRING
Your posts are generally so pointless, since they are mostly personal attacks, that I seldom read them.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
America is an oligarchy
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SECOND, if you think Americans are stupid, lazy, and unaware, listen to this. This man is awake, aware, and angry. For anyone who cares to get a different perspective, listen to this from 0:00 to 24:45 and from 59:26 to the end. (The segment in between is about Yugoslavia, which was topical at the time this was recorded in 1999, but not relevant in such detail now). The thing that amazes me ... this was recorded 19 years ago, before the GWB reign and before Obama. And nothing has changed. All of the criticisms leveled then against Bush I, Bill, and early Bush II apply just as much to Bush II's presidency, and Obama's.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
America is an oligarchy
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Quote:Signym, it is less helpful than you imagine to look at Americans to understand what America, the whole country, does for a living. Your video breaks Americans down into groups, talks about capitalism, class, and interactions. It is all very nice and academic, but the America I live in only has the brains of a nematode with a few hundred neurons interacting to give it all its behavior. America is very simple minded beast. The cold-blooded and ruthless way to get the country to move in a particular direction is to find a particular neuron in the nematode-size-brain of America and zap it to get the behavior you want. Although the tiny brain of America hasn’t been mapped out completely, the day is coming when it is. There is an article about artificial nematode brains: www.artificialbrains.com/openworm Not all nematodes species have the same brain. Neither do all nations have the same tiny brain design: http://news.aces.illinois.edu/news/closer-look-reveals-nematode-nervou
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, if you think Americans are stupid, lazy, and unaware, listen to this. This man is awake, aware, and angry. For anyone who cares to get a different perspective, listen to this from 0:00 to 24:45 and from 59:26 to the end. (The segment in between is about Yugoslavia, which was topical at the time this was recorded in 1999, but not relevant in such detail now). The thing that amazes me ... this was recorded 19 years ago, before the GWB reign and before Obama. And nothing has changed. All of the criticisms leveled then against Bush I, Bill, and early Bush II apply just as much to Bush II's presidency, and Obama's.
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Running on with the nematode brain analogy, there is a Democrat/Republican neuron, D/R, in America’s brain. Since there is only 302 neurons, zapping the D/R makes a noticeable difference, but most behavior stays almost identically wormy.
One more analogy and I stop. There is a connection between the number of guns in America and the number of nukes and how America, as a whole country, not as individuals, thinks about weapons. America has decided to not have enough gun control: “In retrospect Sandy Hook marked the end of the US gun control debate,” Dan Hodges wrote, referring to the 2012 attack that killed 20 young students at an elementary school in Connecticut. “Once America decided killing children was bearable, it was over.”
America has the same relationship with nukes as it has with guns. Once America decided killing Japanese children with nukes was bearable, it was all over. Someday, millions will die because the US has too many nukes. Everyday, people die because the US has too many guns. An article about mass shootings and the real cause, not the imagined causes most people cite:
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/world/americas/mass-shootings-us
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Why does America experience so many mass shootings?
Perhaps, some speculate, it is because American society is unusually violent. Or its racial divisions have frayed the bonds of society. Or its citizens lack proper mental care under a health care system that draws frequent derision abroad.
These explanations share one thing in common: Though seemingly sensible, all have been debunked by research on shootings elsewhere in the world. Instead, an ever-growing body of research consistently reaches the same conclusion.
The only variable that can explain the high rate of mass shootings in America is its astronomical number of guns.
Americans make up about 4.4 percent of the global population but own 42 percent of the world’s guns. From 1966 to 2012, 31 percent of the gunmen in mass shootings worldwide were American, according to a 2015 study by Adam Lankford, a professor at the University of Alabama.
Adjusted for population, only Yemen has a higher rate of mass shootings among countries with more than 10 million people — a distinction Mr. Lankford urged to avoid outliers. Yemen has the world’s second-highest rate of gun ownership after the United States.
Worldwide, Mr.
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