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The risk of nuclear war under Trump

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Wednesday, February 14, 2018 10:03 PM

Regale us with all of the tales of the great fights you've gotten to in your lifetime as one of the (lol) 1%'ers. You're a clown.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, February 14, 2018 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Regale us with all of the tales of the great fights you've gotten to in your lifetime as one of the (lol) 1%'ers. You're a clown.

I can see the soil from which your failures grow so very tall, 6ixStringJack. You are belligerent for no purpose. And you don't learn the lessons taught. You have got the personality and brains of a chicken. But how about this story involving Trump's election? Chicken hearts and heads of most Americans make it easy to predict what they will do, whether it is wanting more nukes or Trump for President. They ain't as smart or brave as they think.

Old prediction for December 2015: a Professor predicted that the Democrats would win in 2016: What the “13 Keys to the White House” Say and Why Foreign Policy Will Decide the Next President. The professor did not factor in that the GOP Candidate would not be a zero charisma Bush. Instead, it was Trump and his truck-load of charisma and crazy.
https://pollyvote.com/en/components/index-models/keys-to-the-white-hou
se
/

When the simple math was redone, using Trump as the GOP candidate rather than bland Bush, the chicken headed Americans did exactly what was expected:

New prediction for September 2016 Trump is headed for a win, says professor who has predicted 30 years of presidential outcomes correctly.

www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/23/trump-is-headed-for-
a-win-says-professor-whos-predicted-30-years-of-presidential-outcomes-correctly/?postshare=2541474654865044&utm_term=.3d6a4f0af6d4


The professor had serious doubts that his simplistic model was correct about predicting Trump wins. The model assumes that Americans are fucking stupid chickens, but the Professor had placed his faith in Americans being smart. The model does not believe in Americans' brilliance. Here is the Professor listing some drawbacks to Trump winning predicted Sept, 2016:
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Donald Trump has made this the most difficult election to assess since 1984. We have never before seen a candidate like Donald Trump, and Donald Trump may well break patterns of history that have held since 1860.

We've never before seen a candidate who's spent his life enriching himself at the expense of others. He's the first candidate in our history to be a serial fabricator, making up things as he goes along. Even when he tells the truth, such as, "Barack Obama really was born in the U.S.," he adds two lines, that Hillary Clinton started the birther movement, and that he finished it, even though when Barack Obama put out his birth certificate, he didn't believe it. We've never had a candidate before who not just once, but twice in a thinly disguised way, has incited violence against an opponent. We've never had a candidate before who's invited a hostile foreign power to meddle in American elections. We've never had a candidate before who's threatened to start a war by blowing ships out of the water in the Persian Gulf if they come too close to us. We've never had a candidate before who has embraced as a role model a murderous, hostile foreign dictator. Given all of these exceptions that Donald Trump represents, he may well shatter patterns of history that have held for more than 150 years, lose this election even if the historical circumstances favor it.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, February 14, 2018 11:07 PM

lol... and your complete inability to talk to people is a huge indicator that you are not who you say you are. You'd run the company into the ground before it ever took off.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, February 14, 2018 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by second:
In the minds of Americans, the US needs thousands of bombs because the world might someday take its revenge for what the US had done and for what it would do if the Japs did not surrender.

What makes you assume you know what 'Americans' want, SECOND?

Here's the most recent result I could find about the US nuclear arsenal:

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Press Office

Poll Results: Nuclear Weapons
by Peter Moore
in HuffingtonPost, Politics & current affairs
on August 11, 2016, 7:07 a.m.

These are the topline results of a YouGov/Huffington Post survey of 1000 US adults interviewed August 4-7, 2016 on nuclear weapons. The margin of error is 4.8%.
Click here to see full tables and demographic crossbreaks

Do you approve or disapprove of cutting the number of nuclear weapons the United States has?
Strongly approve . . . . . . . ..22%
Somewhat approve . . . . . . . ..23%
Somewhat disapprove . . . . . . .23%
Strongly disapprove . . . . . . .17%
Not sure . . . . . . . . . . . ..16%

Which comes closest to your view?
The US should never use nuclear weapons under any circumstances
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .17%
The US should only use nuclear weapons in response to a nuclear attack
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50%
In certain circumstances, the US should use nuclear weapons even if it has not suffered a nuclear attack . . . . . . . . .18%
Not sure . . . . . . . . . . . . .16%

If Hillary Clinton were elected president, would you trust her or not trust her to make the right decisions about the use of nuclear weapons?
Trust her . . . . . . . . . . . . .38%
Not trust her . . . . . . . . . . .46%
Not sure . . . . . . . . . . . . ..16%

If Donald Trump were elected president, would you trust him or not trust him to make the right decisions about the use of nuclear weapons?
Trust him . . . . . . . . . . . . ..27%
Not trust him . . . . . . . . . . ..57%
Not sure . . . . . . . . . . . . . .16%

DESPITE propaganda to the contrary, I don't find a bloodthirsty pronuke population - do you?
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Originally posted by second:
You are partially right. The Constitution makes Washington less responsive than, say, one of the better designed Parliamentary systems. But the big flaw is Americans. Their memories don't extend very far into the past.

As I pointed out earlier - and which you failed to understand at all - the system has the unfortunate effect of training Americans to comprehend THEIR VOTE HARDLY MATTERS. Which is regrettably true. You can't fool all of the people all of the time. But under a different system - one where the active participation of the voters is meaningful - Americans would perform better.







HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Wednesday, February 14, 2018 11:37 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol... and your complete inability to talk to people is a huge indicator that you are not who you say you are. You'd run the company into the ground before it ever took off.

There is no conversation going on here, 6ix. I've said you are a fucking idiot, over and over, and you never understood. What kind of obvious messages are living, breathing people in Indiana saying to your face that you aren't understanding? That would probably be where your failures in life come from. Start paying attention and life will turn upward for you. You will stop being a fucking chicken-headed idiot.

With 1kiki and Signym, I don't believe they are who they pretend to be: American citizens. If they are Russian trolls or spambots, they are doing their jobs well and nobly serving their country. Congratulations to them both! But if they actually live in America, they've both had a very odd upbringing. Still I can say Congratulations to them both for writing well and from their hearts. Can't say the same about 6ixStringJack. You're an idiot.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, February 14, 2018 11:39 PM

"Why do you think the 1% can bully the other 99%? It certainly is not because the 1% are belligerent. It is because the 99% won't fight back."

There used to be the notion that for people to revolt, they had to have nothing left to lose. Where losing their life was, at that point, meaningless. And that's true. People with meager lives can't afford risk what little they have on something that may, or may not, work out. Because if it doesn't work out, what do they have left to support their lives? It's only when they get to the point where revolution makes sense do they participate.

But it's good to see the real, disdainful, SECOND come out of the shadows.




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Wednesday, February 14, 2018 11:49 PM

"But if they actually live in America, they've both had a very odd upbringing."

As a 1%er, and a Texan, you're hardly in a position to claim someone's upbringing is 'odd'. And you need to get out of the house more, and rub elbows with 99% people from all over the country.

I can speak for myself, SECOND. I am American. I live in America. Both my parents were brilliant people, doing their best with what life dished out to them. In terms of raising me, they believed in the power of reading, of thought, and of understanding. And that makes me different from most of my fellow Americans, because Americans are taught to revere ignorance as if it was innocence ... but being different doesn't make me un-American.




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Thursday, February 15, 2018 1:53 AM

My life is doing just fine, sunshine. I'm the only person on this board that's done anything to improve their lot in life in the last year. You're just a static character saying the same bullshit every single day. Sad little man lying about what he wishes he had but will never obtain from the depths of his Republican Texas Mom's basement.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, February 15, 2018 2:56 AM

fwiw I don't believe SECOND lives in his mom's basement, though I do believe he's trapped in isolation, anger, and bitterness due to personal history.




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Thursday, February 15, 2018 4:35 AM

1Kiki: "because Americans are taught to revere ignorance as if it was innocence ... "

Not exactly. Americans are taught to lie around in front of the Boob Tube
& ingest silliness as a relief from the daily grind. To believe whoever is
currently the most popular.

I myself, my Boob Tube out in storage, find other distractions to avoid reality.


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