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Dow @ 20K. Time to jump off!
POSTED BY: JO753
UPDATED: Friday, April 4, 2025 13:08
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Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:14 AM
I may hav a talent for insipidity. Shoud I enter the contest for most insipid in the world?
Herez a Q for you: Shoud peepl who work get paid more for their product or servis than sumwun who did nothing but buy sum stock with their exess money?
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Wednesday, February 7, 2018 11:51 AM
Quote:What's wrong? You can't make a simple decision?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
If I tell you that we'll take the entirety of your life savings (or 10% of your life earnings) and you will now lose either 10 jiggers or 10 siggers worth, your choice - which do you choose?
Each one is just 10, do it's not like there's a difference!
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Wednesday, February 7, 2018 3:01 PM
I'll go with the life savingz.
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Wednesday, February 7, 2018 8:34 PM
Quote:What's wrong? You can't make a simple decision?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
If I tell you that we'll take the entirety of your life savings and you will now lose either 10 jiggers or 10 siggers worth, your choice - which do you choose?
Each one is just 10, do it's not like there's a difference!
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Thursday, February 8, 2018 3:49 AM
This is for a little glance into the Libtard delusions:
From 25 January 2017, Dow up to 20,000:
Quote:Translation: Dow at 20,000 is artificially high, everybody should get out at 20,000. Bear Market is imminent, and the selloff will be a stampede.
Originally posted by JO753:
Time for a bust, so if youv got alot in a 401k and stock in anything that generally followz the Dow number, time to cash out.
It's artificially hi and the walez know that Trump iz going to be like Bush on steroidz. The minit wun uv them starts selling, the little guyz will follow and then its a rase for the life boats.
From 20 March, Dow up to 21,169:
Quote:I missed in fact, but not prinsipal.
Originally posted by JO753:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
We certainly wouldn't want anybody to see a gain of 5% of their worth in only a month, right?
Dow hit 21,169 at the beginning of March. About 5 weeks after this thread's OP.
How hi do you think it will go? Wut event are you keeping an eye out for that will presipitate a big drop?
Despite the obvious evidence, clinging to the comfy delusion.
From 5 October, Dow up to 22,775:
Quote:Here the delusional Libtard sees the real world and envisions the real world Market as being delusional.
Originally posted by JO753:
Thats not proof that the market iznt delusional.
From 18 October, Dow up to 22,997:
Quote:Delusion slightly modified, an increase of 25% signals imminent downturn to Bear Market.
Originally posted by JO753:
OK. Jump off wen it gets to 25K.
From 21 October, Dow up to 23,328:
Quote:The delusion that the first reasonable Federal Budget in 9 years will cause Market collapse. In the next 99 calendar days Dow will gain 14.9%, or 55% APR.
Originally posted by JO753:
Keep your eyez on the big guyz. There will be sum event sumwhere that nobody notisez and a wale will start selling. He will probably hav sum reazonable boring explanation ready in case anybody asks - 'tranzitioning to unrelated opportunityz' bloated to a few hundred obfuscating wordz with the purpose uv making everybody think therez nothing going on. But woc how fast he tryz to sell, the prise getting lower & lower at an akselerating rate.
And its not like the orijinal reazon haz to be truly important. All that haz to happen iz investorz start to notis that the wale iz moving, then the smaller fish will follow and in a flash its a stampede, then an avalanche that takes down everything.
A possible trigger just happened. The Senate passed Trump's debt exploder bujet. Hoo cannot see the parallel to Bush jr'z wakadoodle financial poliseez?
From 4 January, Dow up to 25,000:
Quote:A Libtard views a solid gain of 25% as being "a bubble"
Originally posted by JO753:
The Dow will probably exeed 25,000 today and if the bubble duznt pop now, maybe it never will! 30, 40 50 .... 100 thouzand!!! Just keep rizing till we break the planet.
From 7 January, Dow up to 25,295:
Quote:Dow was 18,332 on Trump's Election Day. The delusion is that it was into fantasyland long before that. Fantasyland implies a 20% overvalue, possibly only 15%. Long before Election Day, so perhaps around 18,000 Dow.
Originally posted by JO753:Quote:The Dow Jonez Industrial Averaj wuz well into fantasy land long befor Trump won.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Okay, but does that explain the dramatic record breaking increases?
Its speculation based on optimizm, fear and greed,
So the delusion defines the real market value as about 15,000 Dow, and anything above that as Investor overvaluation.
From 19 January, Dow up to 26,115:
Quote:People who understand the Stock Market shouldn't be taken seriously. Only listen to Libtards who gave been proven wrong endle
Originally posted by JO753:
I dont see why anybody takes thoze prognosticatorz seriously after the 2008 colaps. I never did.
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Thursday, February 8, 2018 4:12 AM
Quote:I was off, not on Wednesday. NASDAQ dragged the indices down at the end. In the first 2 hours Dow gained over half of Tuesday's gain.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Dow closed at 24,912.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I should have asked:
Who thinks which day this week will have the biggest gain?
I conjure the day or 2 after its done falling back.
So, I'll conjure Monday was the big dropback, then maybe biggest gain on Wednesday. I don't have money to wager on that, my money was already in the market before this discount buying opportunity.
Only 2.33% gain. Room enough to gain more tomorrow.
Perhaps the bargain pricing is over.
Note: thus far, nobody else has weighed in.
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Thursday, February 8, 2018 4:35 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Those jobs, but maybe those jobs aren't where you are in Indiana:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What jobs?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
6ix needs to hold onto the belief that those numbers are totally false to rationalize his long term unemployment. It's ok, Jack, not working is much better than working for douche nozzles - been there, done that.
The numbers are fake. Half jobs aren't jobs. I'm working one. I'm not unemployed, but I'm underemployed.
Instead of chasing after Russian Ghosts with the Trump administration, why don't you do something useful like calling Trump out on the same bullshit numbers that Obama was touting.
Trump said the jobs numbers were bullshit when Obama said it. He was right. But now all of the sudden they're valid? I don't think you believe that. You just want to take a dig at me.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Thursday, February 8, 2018 2:17 PM
Quote:Despite the obvious evidence, clinging to the comfy delusion.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
This is for a little glance into the Libtard delusions:
From 25 January 2017, Dow up to 20,000:Quote:Translation: Dow at 20,000 is artificially high, everybody should get out at 20,000. Bear Market is imminent, and the selloff will be a stampede.
Originally posted by JO753:
Time for a bust, so if youv got alot in a 401k and stock in anything that generally followz the Dow number, time to cash out.
It's artificially hi and the walez know that Trump iz going to be like Bush on steroidz. The minit wun uv them starts selling, the little guyz will follow and then its a rase for the life boats.
From 20 March, Dow up to 21,169:Quote:I missed in fact, but not prinsipal.
Originally posted by JO753:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
We certainly wouldn't want anybody to see a gain of 5% of their worth in only a month, right?
Dow hit 21,169 at the beginning of March. About 5 weeks after this thread's OP.
How hi do you think it will go? Wut event are you keeping an eye out for that will presipitate a big drop?
From 5 October, Dow up to 22,775:
Quote:Here the delusional Libtard sees the real world and envisions the real world Market as being delusional.
Originally posted by JO753:
Thats not proof that the market iznt delusional.
From 18 October, Dow up to 22,997:
Quote:Delusion slightly modified, an increase of 25% signals imminent downturn to Bear Market.
Originally posted by JO753:
OK. Jump off wen it gets to 25K.
From 21 October, Dow up to 23,328:
Quote:The delusion that the first reasonable Federal Budget in 9 years will cause Market collapse. In the next 99 calendar days Dow will gain 14.9%, or 55% APR.
Originally posted by JO753:
Keep your eyez on the big guyz. There will be sum event sumwhere that nobody notisez and a wale will start selling. He will probably hav sum reazonable boring explanation ready in case anybody asks - 'tranzitioning to unrelated opportunityz' bloated to a few hundred obfuscating wordz with the purpose uv making everybody think therez nothing going on. But woc how fast he tryz to sell, the prise getting lower & lower at an akselerating rate.
And its not like the orijinal reazon haz to be truly important. All that haz to happen iz investorz start to notis that the wale iz moving, then the smaller fish will follow and in a flash its a stampede, then an avalanche that takes down everything.
A possible trigger just happened. The Senate passed Trump's debt exploder bujet. Hoo cannot see the parallel to Bush jr'z wakadoodle financial poliseez?
From 4 January, Dow up to 25,000:
Quote:A Libtard views a solid gain of 25% as being "a bubble"
Originally posted by JO753:
The Dow will probably exeed 25,000 today and if the bubble duznt pop now, maybe it never will! 30, 40 50 .... 100 thouzand!!! Just keep rizing till we break the planet.
From 7 January, Dow up to 25,295:
Quote:Dow was 18,332 on Trump's Election Day. The delusion is that it was into fantasyland long before that. Fantasyland implies a 20% overvalue, possibly only 15%. Long before Election Day, so perhaps around 18,000 Dow.
Originally posted by JO753:Quote:The Dow Jonez Industrial Averaj wuz well into fantasy land long befor Trump won.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Okay, but does that explain the dramatic record breaking increases?
Its speculation based on optimizm, fear and greed,
So the delusion defines the real market value as about 15,000 Dow, and anything above that as Investor overvaluation.
From 19 January, Dow up to 26,115:
Quote:People who understand the Stock Market shouldn't be taken seriously. Only lis
Originally posted by JO753:
I dont see why anybody takes thoze prognosticatorz seriously after the 2008 colaps. I never did.
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Thursday, February 8, 2018 7:49 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Alright, so let's take a moment to explore the scenario if the Libtard view actually wasn't a delusion.
Their premise is that the real actual value of the Market is represented by Dow 15,000.
So then 26,616 is an actual overevaluation of 11,616 - or 177% of the true value. That may well be a historical record.
So if Dow goes no higher than that during this cycle, then a drop to 22,623 will signal onset of a Bear Market cycle. The rebound will go to about 23,954 - 25,285 range and then drop. A Bear Market drop always bottoms far below the true value of a stock, so the Dow would at this point bottom out around 8,000 - 12,000. The would represent a drop of 55% - 70%. Such a large drop gives investors plenty of time or range to recognize the drop and exit their stocks, before the bottom price is available to buy back in for massive gains - doubling or tripling your fund value. Unless the Libtard duplicates 2008 and keeps all their money in the Market until they've lost 60% of their life savings. So what are the Libtards panicking about? Their scenario provides the best possible outcome for their funds!
By comparison OTOH, if the Libtards are delusional and the Stock Market is the Real World, then a couple extreme possibilities can be presented.
One us that, for no reason, the current high of 26,616 remains the peak of this cycle. The drop to trigger remains the same as above, as well as the rebound range. But then the bottom would be more like 17,740 or we could hope for 13,300. The discount price for buying back in would not be as big of a bargain, plus the time of range of drop would be more brief, so exiting the fund would be more time critical, allowing for less dilly-dallying. And then the recovery gains would only be 30 - 50%.
The other possibility would be that the explanation for Obamanomics which I posted earlier in this thread are correct. The Market will continue to climb, for up to 8 years, before moving to Bear Market.
By that time most folk would have forgotten about Libtard delusional theories.
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Thursday, February 8, 2018 9:56 PM
Quote:Sorry, but there were 2 somewhat key points which I neglected to mention in that post.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Alright, so let's take a moment to explore the scenario if the Libtard view actually wasn't a delusion.
Their premise is that the real actual value of the Market is represented by Dow 15,000.
So then 26,616 is an actual overevaluation of 11,616 - or 177% of the true value. That may well be a historical record.
So if Dow goes no higher than that during this cycle, then a drop to 22,623 will signal onset of a Bear Market cycle. The rebound will go to about 23,954 - 25,285 range and then drop. A Bear Market drop always bottoms far below the true value of a stock, so the Dow would at this point bottom out around 8,000 - 12,000. The would represent a drop of 55% - 70%. Such a large drop gives investors plenty of time or range to recognize the drop and exit their stocks, before the bottom price is available to buy back in for massive gains - doubling or tripling your fund value. Unless the Libtard duplicates 2008 and keeps all their money in the Market until they've lost 60% of their life savings. So what are the Libtards panicking about? Their scenario provides the best possible outcome for their funds!
By comparison OTOH, if the Libtards are delusional and the Stock Market is the Real World, then a couple extreme possibilities can be presented.
One us that, for no reason, the current high of 26,616 remains the peak of this cycle. The drop to trigger remains the same as above, as well as the rebound range. But then the bottom would be more like 17,740 (67%) or we could hope for 13,300 (50%). The discount price for buying back in would not be as big of a bargain, plus the time of range of drop would be more brief, so exiting the fund would be more time critical, allowing for less dilly-dallying. And then the recovery gains would only be 30 - 50%.
The other possibility would be that the explanation for Obamanomics which I posted earlier in this thread are correct. The Market will continue to climb, for up to 8 years, before moving to Bear Market.
By that time most folk would have forgotten about Libtard delusional theories.
Actually, both follow from another point which I didn't focus upon enough. When a Market Timing trade is Profit taking, it rarely, practically never, occurs at the precise moment, the specific day, of the all-time high. So the sell-out is never at 100% peak of the cycle. As I did point out above, usually the best that one could hope for is selling on the Rebound at between 90% - 95%. So right there is the inherent loss of 5% - 10% of the all-time high mark, when Bear Market is onset. This is a loss that most investors must accept as par for the course, and another reason a fallback of only 10% total is largely ignored by the long-term investor (like retirement funds such as 401K).
A Bear Market is generally expected to drop at least 30% from the all-time high. If this minimal Bear occurs, the best buy-in discount price would be at that 70% mark (of the all-time high). If the 30% loss mark is missed, then at least a buy-in at the 25% loss mark should be expected (or 75% of all-time high). The worst of these possibilities are getting out at 90% and buying in at 75%, garnering a 20% gain overall. The best of these possibilities is getting out at 95% and buying back in at 70%, garnering a 37% gain overall. So the expected Market Timing gain in a 30% Fall Bear Market is a meager 20% - 37%. This is a point that applies above to (1) the Stock Market is Real plus (2) Dow 26,616 is the peak of this cycle.
For the scenario of the Libtard delusion is actually Real, then the bottom would be around 12,000 Dow (55% Fall) to 8,000 Dow (70% Fall).
If it is 12,000 then the bargain buy-in would be at 45% - 50% (of all-time high). The WORST possibility would be selling on Rebound at 90% and buy-in at 50%, garnering an <
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