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Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
You think it's enough to say: vote for a dem because you loathe republicans. Though when it comes down to it, you don't even like democracy. You'd prefer the Deep State get Trump by any illegal means, and screw the vote.
Quote:Since the process was put into the Constitution.
Originally posted by SECOND:
Since when is the Electoral College democratic?
Maybe we shouldn't be too hard on the illiterate. Second seems unable to comprehend the concepts of Democratic vs. democratic.
Second's inability to comprehend that America is a Republic, though, gets less sympathy from me. Serving as a Commissioned Officer in the United States Marine Corps should have knocked at least a small clue into that brain-housing-group.
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Quote:Facts and definitions are nothing but confusing to Libtards. You must explain how the word FEELS, or what the fact SHOULD say.
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:Then you don't know what's in Medicare, and that it leaves many types of medical care UNCOVERED. Which means - it's not universal.
Originally posted by SECOND:
I already did dispute your notion that dems don't have a universal healthcare plan.
"It has been the goal of Democrats since Franklin D. Roosevelt to create a universal health care system guaranteeing health care to all people." -- Bernie Sanders
Here is the 96 page long bill: www.sanders.senate.gov/download/medicare-for-all-act
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:gotcha.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:Yes I am. It's irrelevant.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Not sure if you are intentionally avoiding the questionQuote:
You seem to be decrying the effects of inflation, but your solution is to ramp up inflation by Increasing Minimum Wage?
Other facts, for future reference:
In 2017, 138 Million Wage and Salary workers. 16.4 M are paid under Union Schedule, or 11.9%.
Of 21 M Public sector workers, 34.4% or 7.2 M were Union members.
Of 117 M Private sector workers, 6.5% or 7.6 M were Union members.
Among public sector, employees of Local Government were 40.1% Union members.
Utilities, 23.0% Union members.
Over half of all Union members work in 7 States, while those 7 States have 1/3 of US workers. CA, NY, IL, MI, PA, NJ, OH.
Non-Union pay remains at 80% of Union pay rates.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Lettuce attempt to fathom just how illiterate LinkMonkey JO really is:
Delving into Libtard delusions is ALWAYS tedious in the extreme.
Your stratejy seemz to be the GoP propaganda ploy: the faithful want to beleeev wutever they hear from us, so will not check anything.
Your overall premis iz that Republican leaderz are either nuetral or in favor uv minimum waje lawz; that they never do anything to block increasez, reduse the minimum or eliminate the law.
The only peepl hoo will beleev that are GoP bleevrz like yourself and maybe a hermit Eskimo who haz no akses to any real media.
Link to the .gov paje about HR 3481:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/104th-congress/house-bill/3481
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Repeals the minimum wage requirement under the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938.
Prohibits the Federal Government from taking any action to regulate or otherwise impede actions taken by the States or local governments to enact or implement minimum wage laws.
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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early
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The effects of 137 minimum wage hikes, in one chart
www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/02/05/raising-the-minimum-wag
e-doesnt-cost-jobs-multiple-studies-suggest/?utm_term=.41c172327549
On average, minimum-wage increases eliminated jobs paying below the new minimum, but added jobs paying at or above the new minimum. The two changes effectively cancel each other out.
The decline in jobs paying less than the new minimum wage is offset by an increase in those paying more. Jobs further up the pay scale are largely unaffected, as economists would expect — the minor fluctuations beyond $4 above the new minimum wage are not statistically significant, the study found.
The major benefit of the Dube paper, relative to the Seattle one, is that it incorporates 137 minimum-wage increases, rather than just one.
“If you were just doing that [analysis] in one place, it would be an N [sample size] of 1,” MIT's Autor, who was not involved in the Dube study, said in an interview. “But they have this across a large set of minimum-wage events.”
That larger sample size suggests that the newer paper does a better job of representing how a typical minimum-wage increase might affect a typical community.
“Relative to a normal peer-review process, which involves a couple of anonymous reviewers giving comments privately to a journal editor, this paper had all sorts of critical commentary in public from day one,” Vigdor said. “Some were quick to accept the findings uncritically, and some were quick to dismiss them uncritically. Reported on this way, research just turns into that much more noise.”
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:JO, second's premise is that GOP Platform includes No Minimum Wage.
Originally posted by second:Quote:You would not be correct on that. The GOP's ideal version of Capitalism has no universal healthcare and no taxes on the wealthy and no minimum wage. The Democrat's ideal version is the opposite.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
https://eand.co/why-were-underestimating-american-collapse-be04d9e5523
In interestingly enough, the author lays the collapse at the feet of our particular brand of predatory capitalism - the kind both republicans AND DEMOCRATS love so wholeheartedly.
Since you cannot understand my correction to this False premise, no point in repeating it to you.
But for others following along who do not seek to become embroiled in your delusions, I indicated that the GOP has never had a Plank in its Platform which sought Repeal of the Federal Minimum Wage, nor has introduced or pursued legislation toward that result.
I also requested evidence if second's premise were true, which would make my recall incorrect.
Nobody thus far has been able to support Second's premise, nor disprove mine.
Additionally, a reasonable goal for holding back inflation would be to resist Increases, and reduce the Minimum Wage during deflation - both lacks of which cause inflation, and rob the Minimum Wage worker of Economic power (despite Minimum Wage workers clamoring to give them less spendable money by Increasing the Minimum Wage)
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:gotcha.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:Yes I am. It's irrelevant.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Not sure if you are intentionally avoiding the questionQuote:
You seem to be decrying the effects of inflation, but your solution is to ramp up inflation by Increasing Minimum Wage?
Other facts, for future reference:
In 2017, 138 Million Wage and Salary workers. 16.4 M are paid under Union Schedule, or 11.9%.
Of 21 M Public sector workers, 34.4% or 7.2 M were Union members.
Of 117 M Private sector workers, 6.5% or 7.6 M were Union members.
Among public sector, employees of Local Government were 40.1% Union members.
Utilities, 23.0% Union members.
Over half of all Union members work in 7 States, while those 7 States have 1/3 of US workers. CA, NY, IL, MI, PA, NJ, OH.
Non-Union pay remains at 80% of Union pay rates.
I know what you're getting at. I know the numbers too. I've said that absolutely no Government jobs should be union, or Professional careers either. Teachers unions in particular should not exist. However, for actual dangerous jobs that surround most of the infrastructure that we take for granted everyday I am in favor of unions (yes, even though because of nepotism I have never been able to acquire one).
What I meant was that it is irrelevant to the current argument that if people on the low end that do not have Union jobs and zero government representation do not start seeing pay increases to make their jobs actually worth working with the price of goods constantly going up that our society will start to break down.
This isn't some far distant prediction of some dystopian future, JSF. This is going to start happening very soon. Maybe you live in the middle of a lot of nice suburbs with white picket fences and great school systems, but I live right across the tracks from some pretty high crime rates already.
I drive a shit car, I don't go out of my way to beautify the outside of my home, I don't have a family to worry about and I own a handgun. Chances are, at least for a little while, even though I'd be on the front lines when crime picks up I'll be alright for the most part, but that's not life I want to be living. And you can't put the shit back in the horse either.
Ignore this warning at your own peril.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Oh... and BTW, I don't think I replied to your assertion that I'm for a minimum wage increase because of my own personal situation. I'm actually working for a company that pays quite a bit more than minimum for new hires. Because of this, they actually run a fairly tight ship and I don't work overnight with people who are one step away from prison like I did at Kmart. (Seriously, one guy hit another guy over the head with a chair on break while he was sitting down and unaware it was coming and had his skull cracked).
I doubt raising the minimum would do anything but hurt me because I don't imagine that if it were raised that we'd be seeing a raise along with it unless it were raised to higher than the starting pay. I don't argue that the minimum wage increase will cause more inflation. I agree with that. This is why my first choice would be to eliminate SS/Medicaid taxes on the lowest earners (tied to inflation) and only then tie the minimum wage to inflation so companies can better prepare for it instead of getting slammed with a $5.00/hr raise for every employee overnight.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I am fair certain you do not.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:I know what you're getting at.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:Yes I am. It's irrelevant.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Not sure if you are intentionally avoiding the questionQuote:
You seem to be decrying the effects of inflation, but your solution is to ramp up inflation by Increasing Minimum Wage?
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Odd how the GoPs never mention investor dividendz or executiv pay having an inflationary effect. Its az if an unlimited amount uv money can go to the rich without any penalty on sosiety at all.
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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early
http://www.7532020.com
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