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Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:06 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No thanks. Not interested in watching a bunch of Obama sycophants ask him a bunch of softball questions that he got in advance of the interview.

Trump’s phony war with the press, explained.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/1/9/16854368/trump-fake-news

A genuine — but mutually beneficial — antagonism.

. . . the press isn’t going to do the work of an actual opposition party, which is to formulate a political alternative that an adequate number of people find to be sufficiently inspiring to go out and vote for. That’s the job of the Democratic Party, an institution that’s had considerable trouble attracting press attention to its own message and ideas ever since Trump exploded on the scene. And keeping the media focused on a self-referential feud between Trump and the media is a way of maintaining his preferred approach of trying to suck up all the oxygen in the room.

Meanwhile, what matters to Trump isn’t any actual crushing of the media, but simply driving the narrative in his core followers’ heads that the media is at war with him. With that pretense in place, critical coverage and unflattering facts can be dismissed even as Trump selectively courts the press to inject his own preferred ideas into the mainstream.



Geez... stop quoting Vox please. It's as annoying as Sigs quoting zerohedge all the time.

That being said, people might stop accusing the MSM of having it out for Trump if the MSM would stop having it out for Trump. The only reason you don't see it is because you are the intended viewer for all of it. The one that wants a daily affirmation for your viewpoint.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 10, 2018 7:59 AM

andor iz a useful word sorta missing from English. It iz spoken usually az 2 wordz and ritten with the /, so I am merely finishing the job by eliminating the /.

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Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:40 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

people might stop accusing the MSM of having it out for Trump if the MSM would stop having it out for Trump. The only reason you don't see it is because you are the intended viewer for all of it. The one that wants a daily affirmation for your viewpoint.

What is your viewpoint on this meeting? The MSM got unexpectedly invited to watch it. Trump wanted to show that he hasn’t lost his marbles. But he had not done his reading before the meeting. Too much like work for him?



Watching the video from Trump’s confusing DACA meeting with Congress, Trump doesn’t understand the details and that’s a major problem. It’s about the Dreamers, but that’s all he knows.

There are five different proposals to enshrine DACA into law. For weeks, Republicans have been asking the White House for more clarity on what Trump’s vision for a DACA deal. But clarity was hard to come by on Tuesday. I’ve been in meetings and Trump was obviously winging it from one minute to the next. Maybe he just woke from a nap where he dreamed he had studied and was prepared to talk about the subject?

Sen. Dick Durbin has been on the front lines of Congress’s immigration debate for more than a decade, but after he left a meeting with Trump on the issue Tuesday, he said his “head is spinning.”

The takeaway here is simple: Looking to Trump isn’t going to get Republicans any closer to a deal on DACA. That’s a negotiation that has to happen among themselves, without Trump’s uninformed input.

Since Trump can't make up his mind, a judge did it for him:
Judge temporarily preserves DACA program, blocking Trump plan
www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Judge-temp
orarily-preserves-DACA-program-12485694.php


A federal judge temporarily ordered the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals Program to remain in place late Tuesday, hours after President Donald Trump said in a freewheeling exchange with a bipartisan group of lawmakers that an elusive deal to protect young immigrants brought into the country illegally as children could be within reach.

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Wednesday, January 10, 2018 6:05 PM

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Originally posted by JO753:
andor iz a useful word sorta missing from English. It iz spoken usually az 2 wordz and ritten with the /, so I am merely finishing the job by eliminating the /.



Thanks. I figured that might actually be the case. I actually use and/or quite a bit in the written word.

I might not be on board with all of nooalf, but I could back the andor word. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 10, 2018 6:54 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I might not be on board with all of nooalf, but I could back the andor word. :)

Andor used in a sentence: Trump to Blue States - Drop Dead andor Pound Sand

Florida governor Rick Scott, a Republican, is smiling. Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke has agreed to exempt Florida from new rules opening up offshore oil drilling everywhere else:

“I have witnessed Governor Scott's leadership through hurricane season and am working closely with him on Everglades restoration. He is a straightforward leader that can be trusted. President Trump has directed me to rebuild our offshore oil and gas program in a manner that supports our national energy policy and also takes into consideration the local and state voice. I support the governor's position that Florida is unique and its coasts are heavily reliant on tourism as an economic driver. As a result of discussion with Governor Scott's and his leadership, I am removing Florida from consideration for any new oil and gas platforms.” - Secretary Ryan Zinke

Secretary Ryan Zinke @SecretaryZinke
Read my full statement on taking #Florida off the table for offshore oil and gas. Local voice matters.

“Local voice matters.” But only as long as that voice is a Republican governor in an important swing state. West coast states with Democratic governors who didn’t vote for Donald Trump can pound sand. Ditto for Virginia, which opposes drilling off its coast. Ditto for northeastern states, all of which oppose drilling off their coasts. You guys didn’t vote for Trump, so tough luck.

To state the obvious, Trump gives friendly states explicitly favorable treatment and enemy states — this is how Trump seems to think of them — are punished. This attitude has already spread to Republicans in Congress, who crafted their tax bill with petty punishments of blue states as a top priority.

This is not — repeat not — something that Democrats have ever made a habit of. The stimulus bill treated every state fairly. Obamacare treated every state fairly. Even in judicial appointments, a favorite playground for partisan politics, every state was treated fairly. But now Republicans are doing their best to bring back the kind of frankly punitive spoils-system politics that we all thought had been long abandoned. We’re sure learning a lot these days about what “conservative” means in the 21st century.

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Wednesday, January 10, 2018 7:10 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I might not be on board with all of nooalf, but I could back the andor word. :)

Andor used in a sentence: Trump to Blue States - Drop Dead andor Pound Sand





Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 10, 2018 7:42 PM

When asked, "Do you think the 25th Amendment should be invoked to remove Donald Trump from office?" Jay Berman, who wrote the 25th Amendment, answers:

"No. At this moment, I don’t think he meets the test of a president who’s incapable of fulfilling his responsibilities. I think he was elected to do these dumb things. He hasn’t become dumber or meaner since he was elected — this is who he’s always been. This was who he was when he ran, and may well have been the reason people elected him."

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Wednesday, January 10, 2018 8:30 PM

lol

Joke's on you then, huh?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 10, 2018 8:39 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Joke's on you then, huh?

I laugh all the way to the bank because Hillary would never have signed a huge tax cut for me, but Trump did despite me not voting for him.

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Wednesday, January 10, 2018 8:51 PM

Oh. We all know. You only tell us everyday about it.

This is just year 9 for me. Nothing has changed for the better or worse. Don't imagine it would have in the parallel universe where Hillary won either.

Enjoy that big tax break. Buy yourself something nice.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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