New "Doctor Who" trailer
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UPDATED: Friday, January 5, 2018 03:14
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
At least he didn't call me Alt-Right or a Nazi.
I think it's funny how the Left has gotten so bad in the last 10 years that I agree with you on more things these days Rap. I don't recall us seeing eye to eye on much back in 2007.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Not sure I agree with much of what I said in '07 either.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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lol... ain't that the truth?
If anything, I'm quite a bit more Liberal these days. I wasn't anti-Republican back then, but I was anti-neo-con and sure as hell anti-Bush. The "Patriot Act", the insane military spending putting us at great risk of going bankrupt (or at least giving other not-so-friendly countries leverage against us), nukes in Iraq, never-ending wars that we're still in to this day.
I was never a Democrat, but I feel like I was arguing on a completely different side back then. It was my choice to do that back then though. Everything has changed so much in 10 years. I don't feel comfortable sitting where I'm at right now, but I've kind of been pushed into this camp because the left has gone completely off the reservation.
I want to call it Cultural Marxism, but Google the term and the first hit you get is a website saying that it's a buzzword used by neo-nazis. I'm not even kidding. Do it.
Absolutely insane.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Because he's not. He's one CHARACTER, and that person happens to be a white male. Doesn't keep a black lesbian from being ANOTHER " 00 " agent, full of her own brand of awesome, clever quirks, skills, etc...
I think there's a key difference between The Doctor and James Bond that makes this a poor comparison:
James Bond is supposed to be a human, and has been firmly established as a white male. Sure, the films are anachronistic but the "James Bond 007 = Dread Pirate Roberts" code name theory is just a fan theory, not cannon - having the character change race or gender would be... silly (if they want diversity, give the current Moneypenny a spinoff movie...)
The Doctor, however, is supposed to be a shape-shifting alien - that was established by the end of the very first series. The plot hole is actually "why does he always change into a white British guy?" If there's one fictional character that you could gender-flip plausibly, the Doctor is your ma..., sorry, person. Its a SciFi/Fantasy show - its supposed to throw curve balls at the audience. I'm just waiting to see if the stories are good.
(Not quite sure why they showed the Doctor's wedding ring falling off after the regeneration though... surely the BBC aren't saying that she can't still be married to River? She's a Time Lord, not a Trill!)
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The only reason regeneration of the Doctor even became a thing in the first place is that William Hartnell was getting up in age, and the producers of the show didn't want the series to just end. It was an after thought, because thanks in large part to the popularity of the Daleks, the show had to go on.
Originally, Dr Who was more about a feisty old Time Lord taking his grand daughter and a couple of teachers through space and time giving them ( and the audience ) a look into science and history. That's it ! It was never imagined of ever becoming this grand saga , where humans, the galaxy and even the cosmos itself often faced dire peril.
The thing about the wedding ring was curious. Obviously, if The Doctor's ring finger does shrink, it's going to fall off. Unlike The ONE Ring, crafted by Sauron, I don't see this one changing sizes.
I'm sure it'll be addressed to the satisfaction of any fans still watching.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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I'm a reasonable guy. I've never watched the show save for a few episodes with Eccleston and even the last one he was in where he changed. That's how I learned about that part of it.
In this case, if the writing is good, it's not a terrible thing, and it's not without a legitimate reason.
The only problem for me is the timing, really. If they hadn't been doing this in so many other areas where there is no rhyme or reason for it and just to further a political agenda, it wouldn't be lost in a sea of this type of thing mindlessly and needlessly happening.
I don't blame Rap for not wanting to watch it. And if the ratings slump after it happens I really hope that I don't start hearing a lot of stories about how it's the sexist men out there that are destroying the show.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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The new reboot starting w/ #9 was when I really came on board as well. 9 and 10 were really brilliant, and some of the no great episodes were still watchable.
I've tried to go back and get a taste of the older shows, but it was such a completely different sci-fi landscape, and so much has changed, I really found it hard to relate. Most folks don't appreciate a show " for its time ... ". To many, that's just another way of saying something sucked, or they had really crappy special effects ( often true ) , but the stories themselves were what mattered the most.
I am very glad for the work done to revive and carry on the legacy. I truly hope it goes for another 50 years, and beyond.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
The only reason regeneration of the Doctor even became a thing in the first place is that William Hartnell was getting up in age, and the producers of the show didn't want the series to just end. It was an after thought,
Sure - it was an afterthought 50 years ago that has since become thoroughly integrated into the show and is a major part of the reason that it is still going today. The "educational" angle was ditched fairly early on, and the original "no monsters" rule didn't survive the second story that introduced our favourite mobile trash cans.
Its not like "identity politics" is new territory for the show, either - so far its been handled with humour, a light touch and even a hint of subversion. If the new scripts are bad, I'll turn off with everybody else. However, a fantasy show in which the main character gets a new body every couple of years really does beg the question of "why always the same gender and race"...
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Like I said before, the problem is the timing. Dr. Who is not at all being edgy right now. They're late followers of a trend that is taking over every aspect of media from TV to movies to comic books to video games.
It just comes off as annoying at this point, and there are going to be a lot of people tuning out I'm sure. Mark my words, there is going to be quite a few articles written about the show falling in ratings because of all of the neck-beard misogynists out there, with an emphasis on the white ones.
Ask me how I know.
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Originally posted by IMNOTHERE:
However, a fantasy show in which the main character gets a new body every couple of years really does beg the question of "why always the same gender and race"...
What if that's how regeneration is suppose to work w/ the Gallifreyans ? Would that really bother you sooooo much ? A man, born a man, can only regenerate as... a man !! OMG! The HORROR ! ( same goes for a woman , btw ) Seems to have been that way for 50 years. That indicates to me a pretty solid pattern.
How is that such a terrible message ? There ARE fixed points in time, that can't be changed, and no, you can't change sex when you regenerate.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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I wonder if there ever was a line about it actually on the show? I find it hard to believe that Billie Piper or somebody never asked him "so, do you ever regenerate as a woman?"
That would be like when they recently black-washed Hermione Granger and Rowling said "I never said Hermione was white".
OOPS.
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