Wind River
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Thursday, March 7, 2019 07:26
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I've heard actors say that 'you read a script and you get a good feeling.'
Plus, I would think that the reputation of a director proceeds the script. What I mean is: a director's track record comes into play here as well.
So, if they like the screenwriter and the director, makes them consider a particular project. Imagine if Robert Zemeckis comes up to you as an actor and says: "I got the rights to this book, Forrest Gump, and we got Tom Hanks to commit to it."
If I remember correctly, I heard that Hanks believed in this film so much that he, instead of a big upfront payday, accepted a percentage of the film's gross profits.
I looked it up and found this: "Hanks walked away with an estimated $70M" compare that to the $10-15M that an actor of his caliber would get in those days (1990s).
Nicholson got $50M for Batman (he was paid an upfront amount of $6M). Smart move.
The biggest payday for an actor..........you'll never guess, I was surprised, I thought it was Hanks. Keanu Reeves for Matrix Reloaded, a whopping $126M. Keanu's story of film profit is beyond interesting, this while I was researching this aspect of movie production and actor influence.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I don't think I ever saw an ad for it.
When Actors read a script to decide if they want a role, they must wonder and fear if the final product will be like Uwe Bole work, or Wind River.
How can Renner and Olsen know this would turn out this well? The script alone can't do it.
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Quote:Does your library have it yet?
Originally posted by Brenda:
Sounds like it could be a good film. I will keep an eye out for it at the end of the year at my local library.
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Quote:I forget which film, but Ahnold had a creative recompense package, including giving him a Gulfstream Jet to keep.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:Quote:I've heard actors say that 'you read a script and you get a good feeling.'
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I don't think I ever saw an ad for it.
When Actors read a script to decide if they want a role, they must wonder and fear if the final product will be like Uwe Bole work, or Wind River.
How can Renner and Olsen know this would turn out this well? The script alone can't do it.
Plus, I would think that the reputation of a director proceeds the script. What I mean is: a director's track record comes into play here as well.
So, if they like the screenwriter and the director, makes them consider a particular project. Imagine if Robert Zemeckis comes up to you as an actor and says: "I got the rights to this book, Forrest Gump, and we got Tom Hanks to commit to it."
If I remember correctly, I heard that Hanks believed in this film so much that he, instead of a big upfront payday, accepted a percentage of the film's gross profits.
I looked it up and found this: "Hanks walked away with an estimated $70M" compare that to the $10-15M that an actor of his caliber would get in those days (1990s).
Nicholson got $50M for Batman (he was paid an upfront amount of $6M). Smart move.
The biggest payday for an actor..........you'll never guess, I was surprised, I thought it was Hanks. Keanu Reeves for Matrix Reloaded, a whopping $126M. Keanu's story of film profit is beyond interesting, this while I was researching this aspect of movie production and actor influence.
SGG
Regarding track records of Directors and Scriptwriters - a lot of that is hit or miss, it seems. And keep in mind, film hits the cinema up to 2 years after filming wraps. Filming lasts months at least. Casting is months before that. Script sampling well before that. So what Director released last is several years before the script you are reading will be released - not a very tight feedback loop.
I haven't looked up the writer or director for Wind River - have you? What had they done before Renner & Olsen likely read the script?
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Taylor Sheridan is the director and screenwriter.
Guessing casting was done late '15/early '16, he would be coming off of Sicario, which he also wrote.
Only directing credit was "Vile", a horror flick from 2010 or so.
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Quote:Looks like principal photography began by March 2016.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:I forget which film, but Ahnold had a creative recompense package, including giving him a Gulfstream Jet to keep.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:Quote:I've heard actors say that 'you read a script and you get a good feeling.'
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I don't think I ever saw an ad for it.
When Actors read a script to decide if they want a role, they must wonder and fear if the final product will be like Uwe Bole work, or Wind River.
How can Renner and Olsen know this would turn out this well? The script alone can't do it.
Plus, I would think that the reputation of a director proceeds the script. What I mean is: a director's track record comes into play here as well.
So, if they like the screenwriter and the director, makes them consider a particular project. Imagine if Robert Zemeckis comes up to you as an actor and says: "I got the rights to this book, Forrest Gump, and we got Tom Hanks to commit to it."
If I remember correctly, I heard that Hanks believed in this film so much that he, instead of a big upfront payday, accepted a percentage of the film's gross profits.
I looked it up and found this: "Hanks walked away with an estimated $70M" compare that to the $10-15M that an actor of his caliber would get in those days (1990s).
Nicholson got $50M for Batman (he was paid an upfront amount of $6M). Smart move.
The biggest payday for an actor..........you'll never guess, I was surprised, I thought it was Hanks. Keanu Reeves for Matrix Reloaded, a whopping $126M. Keanu's story of film profit is beyond interesting, this while I was researching this aspect of movie production and actor influence.
SGG
Regarding track records of Directors and Scriptwriters - a lot of that is hit or miss, it seems. And keep in mind, film hits the cinema up to 2 years after filming wraps. Filming lasts months at least. Casting is months before that. Script sampling well before that. So what Director released last is several years before the script you are reading will be released - not a very tight feedback loop.
I haven't looked up the writer or director for Wind River - have you? What had they done before Renner & Olsen likely read the script?
Renner and Olsen were cast by January.
He directed Hell or High Water, but that wasn't released until late August 2016. His only other Direct was Vile from 2011.
His only other writing was for Sicario, released October 2015. Which also had Jon Bernthal, before Wind River.
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Quote:I just found out my local library has it, but the waiting list for just one branch is 48 people.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Does your library have it yet?
Originally posted by Brenda:
Sounds like it could be a good film. I will keep an eye out for it at the end of the year at my local library.
And the only Best Buy in NorthEast Wisconsin is out of stock on Black Friday.
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The DVD Bonus material had Behind The Scenes videos, and Deleted Scenes. Olsen didn't even want to work this film, or take the meeting, because she hates the cold.
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Quote:Regarding the sound: I haven't watched the whole film again, but what I have watched seems the same from what it was in cinema.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:That would be a royal bummer if the sound is hosed on the DVD.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:Quote:I just think that in the transfer from BIG screen to small screen, something got lost in the translation in the mass production. One other consumer on Amazon found that it was also present in the Blu-Ray. Could have been a glitch in the sound mixing, because I heard everything else just fine, it was mainly the dialogue that suffered and needed to be cranked up to 11.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:I really should have stated that the sound nuances fared well in cinema. I didn't think to mention i
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:Quote:Just finished seeing it, here's my short review.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Elizabeth Olsen continues to shine, more so outside superhero fliks. Is she selecting these, her agent, or luck?
The script alone could not have revealed how well it would turn out. The performances, the scoring, the cinematography, the pacing, the transitions and editing, all complementing each other.
The story is either true or based on actual events. When the synopsis of FBI Agent pursues murder on Indain Reservation, some cliches may come to mind. Whatever similar tones or concepts come up, Wind River leaves all that in the dust.
The entire cast of Wind River seems to be selected flawlessly. Tantoo Cardinal and Graham Greene also worked together in a little show called Dances With Wolves. And after further thought, recalled that Olsen and Renner also worked on Comic Verse films.
For Oscar consideration, only Supporting Actress category lacks a valid nominee - merely due to the lack of meat or size of the roles in the story. I would be very satisfied if Wind River was nominated in many categories.
The nuances and subtleties impressed me. And if the pace seems to be slowing, pay attention.
I also wondered if my familiarity with cool air, snowmobiles made me more comfortable with the storytelling. I am curious if other viewers not as familiar with these situations can relate as well to the story.
I can only recall one item which seemed unexplained, and I'll have to review it later. Everything else was wrapped up well.
Yes, a solid murder mystery that tells a real, but sad story. Another reviewer equated it to Jeremiah Johnson, and I agree. The cinematography was breathtaking. Jeremy Renner does a "Hurt Locker" type performance and shows why he is sought after as an actor. Elizabeth Olson also delivers a solid supporting role as the FBI agent who may be in over her head. This film is well written and solidly cast, everyone does a good job. I'm going to keep an eye out for the director, Taylor Sheridan (who also wrote the screenplay for Hell or High Water, 2016), this guy has skills. There is one small thing, the volume/sound on the voices is rather low (I had to watch a second time with my earbuds on my laptop because I missed some of the dialogue) other than that, this was an excellent film that was thought provoking with some action. I highly recommend it.
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I wanted to see it a second time in cinema, partly to revel in its Majesty. But could not find it showing again.
Looks like now I should be able to find a DVD and watch again.
I will try to check it and compare the sound with what I recall.
I had really hoped more cinema fans would have seen this one on the big screen, largely why I started this thread.
You can't say I didn't try to spread the word.
Do you recall specific Scenes that you missed dialogue?
Caveat: I don't use flat screen TV sound for my DVDs. I use my stereo, which I calibrate to Studio baseline, and then add acoustic emphasis.
I am also familiar with people talking in the cold, talking with teeth chattering, unders
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Has anybody else seen it?
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A crying shame that SJW Oscars did not nominate Wind River for a single category. All the work and accomplishment completed long before Weinstein ever approached to distribute. Sure to be supplanted by some PC dreck.
At least it made a decent profit.
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