Is this really "the lowest point in our nation’s history that they can remember"?
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
The title of this thread is "Is this really the lowest
point in our nation’s history that they can remember"?
Should the forum have a thread about "How Men &
Women can Communicate Honestly about Sex" ?
I suspect that objectivity on the topic may be difficult
for those who want more sex than they get and also for
those who are in a long-term, couple relationship that
isn't working so well anymore.
I'll be 75 this week. Still I am often confused by the
signals I get from men.
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Just checking something here....
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Sweet. Thank you OONJ for having the courtesy to put the closed bracket on the font color. It's actually even easier than I thought it was to do it.
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
6IXSTRINGJACK, "Happy B-Day, OONJ. Hope your 70's have been treating you well. :)"
Thanks, Jack.
Well, I'm more tired & unwilling now; but was pretty lazy even before.
Memory was always spotty. But mostly, my moods are better.
Marriage ... no, I was never married. But most of my life, I hoped to
fall in love and live with a mate. Men are good for a lot of things, &
today, I had to ask a neighbor to help me with the plumbing. I've known
a few married couples who chose not to have kids; you can do that, you
know.
What I have noticed the last couple of years is my self-acceptance finally
kicked in & I feel better emotionally than ever before.
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I'm not completely cynical. Though part of me thinks that love and romance is just a bunch of BS to sell tickets to RomComs and greeting cards, I see the way my parents are with their 2nd marriages and decades later they do really seem to love each other.
I admit that as I get older there are times that it is lonely without a mate, but I'm not a "grass is greener" type of person. I'm far too pragmatic for that. Whenever I get in a lonely mood or think about anything along those lines, I remind myself how little patience I have and how even spending more than a few days time with people I actually really care about starts to drive me nuts I remember that a long term relationship where I lived with somebody just isn't in the cards for me.
Marriage for me might work if I was a long haul trucker or something where I was away from home most of the time, but I hate driving and sitting on my ass for any extended period of time too, so that wouldn't work.
You mentioned about the plumbing, and that's kind of one of my points. I'm almost completely self sufficient. There is very little that I couldn't do on my own if I needed to. The things I've never done before are just a YouTube video away. I can't honestly think of a single thing that I'd ever "need" a woman for. At least, nothing that I would give up my individuality and freedom long term for. Maybe it would be different if I had a kid or two I was raising and was doing it for them, but not for myself.
Congrats on the self-acceptance thing. Sorry it took so long for you to get there. I'm finally doing that myself and it's liberating knowing what you are and are not capable of and what you do and don't want out of life. I'm done trying to be what anybody else wants me to be.
It actually works out pretty nicely for me since I enjoy my solitude so much.
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Thank you, G.
Speaking of Bigfoot, I visited Bigfoot Forums last night.
I rarely go there anymore.
To me, Bigfoot is real, & not much to say about that anymore.
But how is it that we know they exist ... & the gubmint still won't
admit it. Up to about 1975, they did admit it. Sorta.
As for my birthday ... I should treat myself to a movie.
Is the new Thor movie any good?
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I don’t typically attribute any sort of noble thinking to any gubmint, but maybe they realize if they do admit their existence they know some of our lesser citizens would hunt them into extinction. Maybe.
Thor movie - not sure, I think there have been good reviews, “just what we need in the Trump era.” The latest Harrison Ford Blade Runner gets really good reviews, looking forward to seeing it.
Did you ever play The Last of Us?
G, traveling, posting as CaptainCrunch. Replies may be spotty or non existant.
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G: "Did you ever play The Last of Us?"
Never heard of it.
In fact, haven't played the RPGs I know & love lately.
I've previewed a few on YouTube.
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Quote:SIX, there IS such as thing as statistical sampling. I know that it can be subject to abuse, and it can only provide an estimate (look at Hillary's polling) but it would be very difficult to conjure up a 13+% value out of near-zero. Rape and sexual assault .... respondents would want to hide those behaviors, don't you think?
are you quoting wiki to avoid honest discussion and just dance around inconveniently truthful definitions?
I don't see mention of urinating in public, or the complainant (victim) touching via body part OR Object intimate parts of the defendant. Both defined as Sexual Assault, although different States have different statutes.
And still dancing, kissing, hugging, massage, fully clothed is Sexual Assault, even consensual if the "victim" is the wrong age.
In what cases are Sexual Assaults charged or prosecuted by the United States Department of Justice, instead of the Local or State Prosecutor? Otherwise the DoJ definition has no meaning or application - only the Local laws actually enforced. - JSF
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Convicted? No. Admitted? Yes.
Nobody just accused these men and got believe and counted. These men ADMITTED what they'd done. And if they had admitted this in the presence of the police instead of researchers, they would have been found guilty.- KIKI
No. Nobody asked 20.4 million men and had 2.1 million men admit to researchers that they were guilty of sexual assault. - SIX
Now, since these men ADMITTED what they'd done, and I suspect men would be less likely to admit to it than not, the numbers are probably higher.- KIKI
If anybody quizzed 20.4 million men on the subject and 2.1 million of them had been stupid enough to admit that they had committed sexual assault, I would have to agree with you. But because that's not the case here at all..... nope.- SIX
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I don't know what's going on with you two (SIX, JSF). Why is it so hard for you to accept that a significant minority of men are pigs? Is it because YOU'VE never done any such thing in the past?
Do you feel that women are making too much of a fuss about too little? Or that if women gain protections in this area, that you'll somehow be attacked?
I'd really like to know what's driving your response, since you get boggled when this comes up.
I personally have no problems with the idea that men are (generally) more aggressive when it comes to getting sex, and that men are ALSO discriminated against in this and other dimensions. So, what's the deal?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
are you quoting wiki to avoid honest discussion and just dance around inconveniently truthful definitions?
I don't see mention of urinating in public, or the complainant (victim) touching via body part OR Object intimate parts of the defendant. Both defined as Sexual Assault, although different States have different statutes.
And still dancing, kissing, hugging, massage, fully clothed is Sexual Assault, even consensual if the "victim" is the wrong age.
In what cases are Sexual Assaults charged or prosecuted by the United States Department of Justice, instead of the Local or State Prosecutor? Otherwise the DoJ definition has no meaning or application - only the Local laws actually enforced. - JSF
*****
Convicted? No. Admitted? Yes.
Nobody just accused these men and got believe and counted. These men ADMITTED what they'd done. And if they had admitted this in the presence of the police instead of researchers, they would have been found guilty.- KIKI
No. Nobody asked 20.4 million men and had 2.1 million men admit to researchers that they were guilty of sexual assault. - SIX
Now, since these men ADMITTED what they'd done, and I suspect men would be less likely to admit to it than not, the numbers are probably higher.- KIKI
If anybody quizzed 20.4 million men on the subject and 2.1 million of them had been stupid enough to admit that they had committed sexual assault, I would have to agree with you. But because that's not the case here at all..... nope.- SIX
SIX, there IS such as thing as statistical sampling. I know that it can be subject to abuse, and it can only provide an estimate (look at Hillary's polling) but it would be very difficult to conjure up a 13+% value out of near-zero. Rape and sexual assault .... respondents would want to hide those behaviors, don't you think?
Yes. I do think. I've asked Kiki to show me the questions asked. I'm going to go right ahead and assume that the questions in this study were as convoluted as your average ethics test given when applying for a job. Tests that I've stated on several occasions that I am VERY bad at. Which leads me to wonder how many questions were answered "wrong" simply because somebody was overthinking it.
First and foremost though, is how the statistics are presented to the general public by the MSM. They constantly throw in Rape with Sexual Assault, and do very little to distinguish the two. You can't deny that whenever these statistics are shown to the public, the emphasis on RAPE is key, and disingenuously inflates the belief that rape is far more prevalent than it actually is.
This is an even larger problem since almost anything these days can be considered sexual assault.
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I don't know what's going on with you two (SIX, JSF). Why is it so hard for you to accept that a significant minority of men are pigs? Is it because YOU'VE never done any such thing in the past?
I don't accept it because I don't believe it's true.
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Do you feel that women are making too much of a fuss about too little? Or that if women gain protections in this area, that you'll somehow be attacked?
I believe that the government and the MSM are making too much out of too little. I've also given potential reasons why this is happening.
A possible consequence of this...
As I stated above, I believe that a lot of men are going to opt-out of relationships and interactions with women altogether. For this and several of the other reasons I've talked about earlier in this thread.
This is already happening (see the MGTOW movement).
And my question to anybody who doesn't see where I'm coming from here is simple.
When men in large quantities start to opt-out of even attempting relationships with women, who is the more likely group to do so? The super-charged sex-tyrannosaurus types? Or the guys who weren't ever going to do an
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I was going to show a clip from Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, but I couldn't find it on YouTube. I did find a very pro-feminist article on VICE that hated season three of Tina Fey's show though and mocked the scene.
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At one point, a guy hits on Kimmy by offering her a consent contract. This is an obvious nod to California's 2014 "yes means yes" law, which conservative pundits mocked as a prime example of liberal overreach, envisioning college students signing contracts before agreeing to go down on one another. Of course, that's not what the law actually entailed, but apparently the show's writers thought the concept of a dude asking a woman if it's OK to have sex with her was comedic gold.
It's not a new idea. Dave Chappelle had a skit about the sex contract on his show 15 years ago.
My point is, this is what things ARE coming to. Unless a guy starts wearing a camera or we have cameras set up everywhere, how is he to prove any allegations against him after the fact? Whenever they are brought up, a majority of people, especially in the MSM, automatically believe the allegations to be true. Lives have been ruined, or at least derailed significantly, simply because a woman decided the day after that what she did was a mistake.
There is NO WAY I would want to be going to college in 2017. No wonder all of these kids are crazy today.
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Damnit, I had a detailed response written and it was lost to the ether. I have no idea why Spectrum's DNS seems to lose fff.net so often.
Well, later, SIX.
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Meh... take your time. I'm going to be getting ready for my job orientation and won't be around till tonight. :)
I used to have a lot of problems losing posts here. I've noticed it hasn't happened for a very long time. I think it's because Firefox does a great job of keeping post data these days.
What browser do you use?
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