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Is this really "the lowest point in our nation’s history that they can remember"?

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Monday, November 13, 2017 7:02 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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"Women drink to get laid. Get drunk to get laid. Get drunk in huge meatmarkets to get laid.".- SIX
JACK, sweetie .... Don't you realize what you just said? If women REALLY WANTED to get laid, they wouldn't HAVE to get drunk in order to get what they wanted. They would hop willingly, happily, and sober, into bed with any and every man who meets their fancy.



Nope. Not my quote.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, November 13, 2017 7:20 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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"Women drink to get laid. Get drunk to get laid. Get drunk in huge meatmarkets to get laid.".- SIX
JACK, sweetie .... Don't you realize what you just said?

Nope. Not my quote.

Those words do not even appear anywhere in any post you have made, even as a quote. Only transplanting during fabrication of a Fake Quote can create this false attribution.

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Monday, November 13, 2017 8:14 AM

Oops, my bad! Sorry! That was a case of mis-attribution.





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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Monday, November 13, 2017 9:57 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I just reject polls which state that 1 in every 5 women on college campuses will be raped and that 13.2% of men on campus say that they would rape. (I a ABSOLUTELY SURE that not a single man in that survey said they would rape. They were just classified as potential rapists because of how they answered questions on the test.)

Define rape.

If everybody is drinking and sex happens, that's not rape. Don't drink so much you don't like the decision you made the night before. Period.

If we're all equal, and we're talking about strong and independent women here, take some fucking responsibility for your own actions and choices.

When you call everything rape, then nothing is rape.

Another comprehensive piece of the discussion.

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Monday, November 13, 2017 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
https://www.bustle.com/articles/118139-4-statistics-that-prove-we-need
-to-teach-people-about-consent


1. Men Are More Likely To Say They'll Rape If They Don't Consider It Rape
In the previously-referenced survey published in Violence and Gender, 32 percent of college men said they would have “intentions to force a woman to sexual intercourse” if ‘‘nobody would ever know and there wouldn’t be any consequences." Only 13.6 percent of these men said they would have “any intentions to rape a woman” in the same situation. This suggests that when we teach people to recognize rape as rape, they're less likely to do it.

2. 33.1 Percent Of Women, 39.1 Percent of TGQN People, And 8.6 Percent Of Men Experience Nonconsensual Sexual Contact During College
... more recent research published in JAMA Pediatrics in 2015 found that 10.8 percent of college men had committed rape in either high school or college. That's a significant proportion — too large to just be considered a fringe population ...

3. 18 Percent Of College Students Think Someone Has Consented As Long As They Don't Say "No"
This statistic comes from a poll conducted by The Washington Post between January and March of 2015.

4. Victims Say They Didn't Report Their Sexual Assaults Because They Didn't Know They Were Assaulted
These victims did not understand that it is always a crime to engage in sexual contact with someone without having given their consent.

"College men"
So you are surprised that affirmative action students, Arab visiting students, Muslim students filling college rolls have brought along their teachings and practices with them? Were they also asked if they would have sex with a camel? Why would sex with other property be any different, just because that property is a woman?

An Ivy League school recently celebrated achieving more than 50% student enrollment of non-whites. So why is the figure in this poll not greatly higher than 14%?

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Monday, November 13, 2017 10:19 AM

Games People Play, 1964, Eric Berne,
It was a best seller the year it came out. Provides a simple way
to pull my own covers. I didn't like my destructive habits, but got
some changes from this.

What Do You Say After You Say Hello? 1973, also by Eric Berne
Transactional analysis, you've heard of it?
This one is about how to relate to others.

The Master Game, 1968, Robert de Ropp
Not S&M. This is about Self-mastery.

I see the source of my problems when I look in the mirror.
Knowing how & what to change in me was a big help.

I dunno if self-help books are even half as popular as they
were in the 60s-70s. But this is basic, simple stuff that
still works.


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Monday, November 13, 2017 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by 6-string:
Somebody in a diabetic coma or dying of cancer didn't willingly make the choice to put themselves in an altered state of consciousness just hours before.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
What does that have to do with the question?

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
You seem to be intentionally ignoring, or perhaps just ignorant of some facts of human Practices.
Women drink to get laid. Get drunk to get laid. Get drunk in huge meatmarkets to get laid. By somebody.

Hey there !
We were talking about comas. Yanno, people passed out. Do you not know what a coma is?
But even more than that - having sex with people too drunk, or drugged, or otherwise too mentally incapacitated to understand and consent, is also rape. Do you understand that?




HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Monday, November 13, 2017 1:02 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I just reject polls which state that 1 in every 5 women on college campuses will be raped ...

Then you need to re-read the quote . It's that 1 in 5 HAS BEEN sexually assaulted, by legal definition.
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1 in 5 female college students is sexually assaulted
And then, there's JSF, chiming in and agreeing with stupidity ...
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Another comprehensive piece of the discussion.

... because, well - why DID you agree with something that's not true, JSF?




HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Monday, November 13, 2017 6:33 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oops, my bad! Sorry! That was a case of mis-attribution.



No problem. I knew you didn't do that on purpose. ;)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, November 13, 2017 6:44 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I just reject polls which state that 1 in every 5 women on college campuses will be raped ...



Then you need to re-read the quote . It's that 1 in 5 HAS BEEN sexually assaulted, by legal definition. -Kiki



THEY HAVE?

In 2015, 20.4 Million students in America went to college.

https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372

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The male-female ratio in higher education has been steadily moved in favor of the females ever since the 1970s. Total enrollment figures show that females outnumbered their male counterparts for the first time in the late 1970s, and they have steadily increased their numerical advantage ever since. The superiority first came in public universities, but soon private universities saw female enrollment surpass male enrollment.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2012/02/16/the-male-female-ratio-in-
college
/

So, more than half of them are women, ever since the 70's. Which, incidentally, also means that for my ENTIRE LIFE, more women then men have gone to college.

For the sake of this argument and easy math, let's just call it a 50/50 split.

That means that In 2014, 2.1 MILLION women were sexually assaulted on campus.


First of all, the word "allegedly" is missing from that "fact". Second of all, the big missing piece of data that is needed to support that wild claim is the statistics that show that 2.1 Million men in 2014 were tried in a court of law and found to have been guilty of sexual assault.




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1 in 5 female college students is sexually assaulted


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And then, there's JSF, chiming in and agreeing with stupidity ...

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Another comprehensive piece of the discussion.



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... because, well - why DID you agree with something that's not true, JSF? -Kiki


Either you're confused, or your saying things in a very confusing way. You'll need to re-organize and re-propose whatever point you're trying to make here.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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