Is this really "the lowest point in our nation’s history that they can remember"?
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Quote:People live too long now. Few want or expect to stay Til Death Do Us Part. Most expect if married, then more than one trip down the aisle. Women cannot commit to a man, they only want that first ring, so they are set for life with alimony, from one or another. Men have long wanted a lifelong commitment, to grow old together - but women only want half of the guy's earnings.
Originally posted by Oonjerah:
OK. So this thread turned into "Sex or Not in the Shallowest Situations."
I won't say I don't understand at all: We had drunken parties at college
when I was young, too.
But those hook-ups were seriously less appealing to women since most
of us were more interested in a relationship than a one-night-stand.
So whatever happened to meeting, talking, dating, getting to know one
another? If that's out the window, society is doomed.
Relationships Are More Important than Lust.
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Many young adults don't even think about or mention marriage, just how many kids they have and all the different daddies.
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Quote:the physiology of male and female gender anatomy works in opposite ways with alcohol. Not saying this is the smartest thing to do, just saying it is what they do. So now we all know and understand you are in denial.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
"Women drink to get laid. Get drunk to get laid. Get drunk in huge meatmarkets to get laid.".
That's just plain stupid. Women should be getting MEN drunk to get laid, not themselves.
Quote:try reading my post. Not every woman. Not every time.
Has it never occurred to you that women get drunk for the same reasons men get drunk. Because they're anxious, or tired, or depressed, or at the end of their rope, and they want to feel something different from what they usually feel? Do you look at a drunk woman and assume she wants to get laid?
Quote:According tovFeminists, men think about getting laid every 11 seconds of his life. So I would logically assume every man wants to get laid. Drunk, sober, asleep. If you randomly asked 10 men if they want to get laid, how many dovyou think would say no?
do you look at a drunk man and assume he wants to get laid?
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Quote:Yep, apparently the whole crux of this lowest point in society rests on women getting drunk to get laid.
Originally posted by Oonjerah:
OK. So this thread turned into "Sex or Not in the Shallowest Situations."
I won't say I don't understand at all: We had drunken parties at college when I was young, too. But those hook-ups were seriously less appealing to women since most
of us were more interested in a relationship than a one-night-stand. So whatever happened to meeting, talking, dating, getting to know one another? If that's out the window, society is doomed. Relationships Are More Important than Lust.
Quote:JACK, sweetie .... Don't you realize what you just said? If women REALLY WANTED to get laid, they wouldn't HAVE to get drunk in order to get what they wanted. They would hop willingly, happily, and sober, into bed with any and every man who meets their fancy.
"Women drink to get laid. Get drunk to get laid. Get drunk in huge meatmarkets to get laid.".- SIX
IF what you're saying is true, then women are sleeping with men under duress, or with disgust, or under some pressure other than their own biological urges. IF what you're saying is true, then women are responding to some sort of pressure ASIDE FROM THEIR FREE AND WILLING DESIRES. A difference in sexual appetites combined with a disparity in power, perhaps?
It seems to me that you just made the case that there is still coercion involved with sex, if not "all" of the time then a fair bit of the time.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Jack's going to write book about the Psychology of American Women,
& how Men can get along with them.
It will be a best seller, 'cause folks will think it's a joke book.
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SIX, let me pose another situation to you: Frat boys get THEMSELVES all liquored up, to do the things that frat boys do. Of course, as you so kindly mentioned, males can't get TOO drunk, or they can't complete the sex act. But they get drunk for sex, they get drunk for initiations, they get drunk for football, they get drunk for a lot of things.
IF these things were inherently pleasurable, why do they have to get drunk to do them? Maybe they would rather be doing something other than brushing their teeth with a toilet bowl brush or being paddled by the entire fraternity? So is it because they're fulfilling somebody else's vision of "having a good time"?
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There is a strange kind of dynamic going on. You seem intent on denying that women are subject to harassment or exclusion. It's as if acknowledging women's prejudicial treatment somehow negates your own.
WISHY reacts the same way. Somehow, she seems to think that acknowledging that many men suffer under the current system denies that women ALSO suffer.
It's like you've whipped your collective dicks on the table ... or in this case, the list of grievances ... to see whose is bigger so that you can "win" in the victim game, so that YOU can get "equality" and deny the "other side". In reality, it's possible that you are BOTH victims. Maybe not always to an equal extent in all dimensions, but what's the point of trying to decide whose victimhood is bigger? That has got to be the most braindead approach to equality: resentment. We should be acknowledging each others victimhood and not be so tribal in our thinking.
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I've been listening to BBC (via NPR) about the tribal disputes in Kenya, the Kikuyu versus the Othaya, Luos and others. When we hear about the Tutsis and the Hutus, or the Kikuyu and the Othaya, or other tribal conflicts, it probably seems pretty pointless and self-destructive and yet, we engage in the same kind of tribalism, only WE call it "identity politics".
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Pity would be no more,
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Quote:yet again, even more Fake Quotes from Sig.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Yep, apparently the whole crux of this lowest point in society rests on women getting drunk to get laid.
Originally posted by Oonjerah:
OK. So this thread turned into "Sex or Not in the Shallowest Situations."
I won't say I don't understand at all: We had drunken parties at college when I was young, too. But those hook-ups were seriously less appealing to women since most
of us were more interested in a relationship than a one-night-stand. So whatever happened to meeting, talking, dating, getting to know one another? If that's out the window, society is doomed. Relationships Are More Important than Lust.Quote:JACK, sweetie .... Don't you realize what you just said? If women REALLY WANTED to get laid, they wouldn't HAVE to get drunk in order to get what they wanted. They would hop willingly, happily, and sober, into bed with any and every man who meets their fancy.
"Women drink to get laid. Get drunk to get laid. Get drunk in huge meatmarkets to get laid.".- SIX
IF what you're saying is true, then women are sleeping with men under duress, or with disgust, or under some pressure other than their own biological urges. IF what you're saying is true, then women are responding to some sort of pressure ASIDE FROM THEIR FREE AND WILLING DESIRES. A difference in sexual appetites combined with a disparity in power, perhaps?
It seems to me that you just made the case that there is still coercion involved with sex, if not "all" of the time then a fair bit of the time.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Quote:Direct word-for-word quotes. So WTF???
yet again, even more Fake Quotes from Sig.- JSF
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Quote:Yes, kiki. More of your Fake Quotes.
Originally posted by SECOND:Quote:Direct word-for-word quotes. So WTF???
yet again, even more Fake Quotes from Sig.- SixString
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Quote:
yet again, even more Fake Quotes from Sig.- SixString
Direct word-for-word quotes. So WTF???- SIGNY
Yes, kiki. More of your Fake Quotes.
Speaking of "fake quotes" - why don't you let SIX speak for himself, and KIKI speak for herself, you can speak for yourself and I'll speak for myself?
My point to SIX wasn't that "men" coerce "women" into sex (altho that happens) but "culture" and "the media" coerces people into doing things they don't necessarily want to do. And booze helps numb people to that pain.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Quote:Nice concept which you should try out. But your constant supply of Fake Quotes impedes such progress.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Speaking of "fake quotes" - why don't you let SIX speak for himself, and KIKI speak for herself, you can speak for yourself and I'll speak for myself?
yet again, even more Fake Quotes from Sig.- SixString
Direct word-for-word quotes. So WTF???- SIGNY
Yes, kiki. More of your Fake Quotes.
Quote:Why Six?
My point to SIX
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