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Thursday, November 9, 2017 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by THGRRI:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:A Class Act like that certainly belongs in a thread with this title.
Originally posted by THGRRI:
And your ignorance about that post is telling. It's pure trolling, and further I believe I know who it is and said as much.
Yep. Everybody is ignorant except for those who agree with T.
Tell me, T. What deep insight about JSF's life do you have to lead you to this conclusion, and to justify throwing out more insults.
You've always got a reason. Let's hear it.
And fix your damn color tags.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Thursday, November 9, 2017 10:31 PM
Quote:Here is your chance to be less ignorant: The latest news on the TRUMP'S tax front:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yep. Everybody is ignorant except for those who agree with T.
Senate Republicans on Thursday plan to propose delaying a cut in the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 20 percent until 2019, four people briefed on the planning said, a major departure from President Trump’s insistence on immediate changes that he says are necessary to spur the economy…. To try to prevent companies from waiting until 2019 to invest, Senate Republicans will propose to allow companies to immediately deduct all capital investments in 2018 to incentivize them to spend more money immediately, the people said.
www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/senate-gop-plan-would-delay-co
rporate-tax-cut-until-2019-breaking-with-trump/2017/11/09/92ea07ec-c55d-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html
I have two comments:
This is idiocy in the extreme. The sole reason for delaying the tax cut is to reduce the cost of the plan in its first ten years. It makes no sense as policy, but it’s a good way to game the CBO score.
It’s not a “major departure” from anything. Donald Trump doesn’t have a clue what he really wants, and he will praise anything that Republicans produce.
We are now entering serious smoke-and-mirrors territory.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Thursday, November 9, 2017 10:41 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Here is your chance to be less ignorant: The latest news on the TRUMP'S tax front:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yep. Everybody is ignorant except for those who agree with T.
Senate Republicans on Thursday plan to propose delaying a cut in the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 20 percent until 2019, four people briefed on the planning said, a major departure from President Trump’s insistence on immediate changes that he says are necessary to spur the economy…. To try to prevent companies from waiting until 2019 to invest, Senate Republicans will propose to allow companies to immediately deduct all capital investments in 2018 to incentivize them to spend more money immediately, the people said.
www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/senate-gop-plan-would-delay-co
rporate-tax-cut-until-2019-breaking-with-trump/2017/11/09/92ea07ec-c55d-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html
I have two comments:
This is idiocy in the extreme. The sole reason for delaying the tax cut is to reduce the cost of the plan in its first ten years. It makes no sense as policy, but it’s a good way to game the CBO score.
It’s not a “major departure” from anything. Donald Trump doesn’t have a clue what he really wants, and he will praise anything that Republicans produce.
We are now entering serious smoke-and-mirrors territory.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly]
History has shown SECOND that they will take their savings and by back stock and spread it out amongst their shareholders. No jobs ever come from giving tax breaks to corporations. Only the rich win and the middle class gets screwed again.
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Thursday, November 9, 2017 11:33 PM
Quote:Like KRAPO, who insists that political truths are made by constant repetition? I guess he must be a troll, then!
The trollz hav a stratejy.
Derail discussionz by posting oppozing opinionz. If you agree with a post, therez not much to reply with besidez additional info if you hav any, so the trollz hav an immediate advantaj.
Optimizing the stratejy involvez several tekneeks - repetition, saturation, fire.
Repetition: Keep saying the same messaj at every opportunity. EVERY post needz a respons.
Or THUGR, who keep talking about "Russian trolls", as if they really exist on this board? Another troll, then!
Quote:Dood, I was just tired of having to go thru so many pages of posts.
Saturation: Dont let any topic slip by without turning it into your messaj. Cant do it? Start a new thred with the same or similar title to dilute the audiens for the orijinal thred. (Like Siggy did with 'Evidens') -
Quote:WOW, now THAT describes THUGR to a "T"! I have NEVER seen so much name-calling, so many clueless accusations, and so much OFF TOPIC posting as from THAT guy! Except maybe GSTRING, who tosses up post after post of nothing but ... and I mean NOTHING but ... name calling.
Fire: Insults, accuzationz uv bias, claimz uv incorrect info, anything to turn it into a pissing contest that nobody else will bother reading.
They must be trolls, then!
Quote:Yes, they certainly are! And you're certainly helping them!
They are doing a great job.
Yanno JO, you (and THUGR, and GSTRING) exemplify perfectly what is wrong with stupid Americans: You accuse others of doing EXACTLY what you do, and you manage to do it without a hint of self-recognition, or irony.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Thursday, November 9, 2017 11:41 PM
And notice whenever T is thoroughly called out on his bullshit and has no defense of his actions he abandons the discussion.
This happens quite regularly. It's happened at least 4 times in the last 3 days with me.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Thursday, November 9, 2017 11:58 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Here is your chance to be less ignorant: The latest news on the TRUMP'S tax front:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yep. Everybody is ignorant except for those who agree with T.
Senate Republicans on Thursday plan to propose delaying a cut in the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 20 percent until 2019, four people briefed on the planning said, a major departure from President Trump’s insistence on immediate changes that he says are necessary to spur the economy…. To try to prevent companies from waiting until 2019 to invest, Senate Republicans will propose to allow companies to immediately deduct all capital investments in 2018 to incentivize them to spend more money immediately, the people said.
www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/senate-gop-plan-would-delay-co
rporate-tax-cut-until-2019-breaking-with-trump/2017/11/09/92ea07ec-c55d-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html
I have two comments:
This is idiocy in the extreme. The sole reason for delaying the tax cut is to reduce the cost of the plan in its first ten years. It makes no sense as policy, but it’s a good way to game the CBO score.
It’s not a “major departure” from anything. Donald Trump doesn’t have a clue what he really wants, and he will praise anything that Republicans produce.
We are now entering serious smoke-and-mirrors territory.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly]
History has shown SECOND that they will take their savings and by back stock and spread it out amongst their shareholders. No jobs ever come from giving tax breaks to corporations. Only the rich win and the middle class gets screwed again.
Getting to be funny when the worst offenders of poor syntax get caught in the poor syntax of the others.
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Friday, November 10, 2017 12:38 AM
Quote:A guy with a Nobel for economics says that you're pretty much right and he adds details about how tax cuts really work, which contradicts what Republicans claim:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
History has shown SECOND that they will take their savings and by back stock and spread it out amongst their shareholders. No jobs ever come from giving tax breaks to corporations. Only the rich win and the middle class gets screwed again.
https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2017/11/08/leprechaun-economics-and-
neo-lafferism/
https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/leprechaun-economics-with
-numbers/
But there is still more to be said (Isn't there always?):
The Republican Party has long billed itself as being for family values, for the dignity of work, for lower taxes, and (at least, as the minority party) for balanced budgets. The House GOP tax bill cuts against all of these positions.
It would raise taxes on about one-third of the middle class by 2027. By eliminating the estate tax, it would benefit heirs of large estates, even if they don’t work a day in their life. Meanwhile, by eliminating some tax breaks often claimed by higher earners, the plan would raise taxes on many upper-middle class households. As a result, the bill would ironically privilege the “idle rich” over the “working rich.” And by slashing corporate taxes by several trillion dollars, it would raise deficits by trillions of dollars, even according to the most pro-Republican analyses.
www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/11/gop-tax-cut/545450/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Friday, November 10, 2017 12:59 AM
Quote:Mostly correct. Since Reagan, tax cuts for the wealthy have not stimulated the USA economy. MOST companies have chosen to invest - when they DO invest- in China.
History has shown SECOND that they will take their savings and by back stock and spread it out amongst their shareholders. No jobs ever come from giving tax breaks to corporations. Only the rich win and the middle class gets screwed again.-
This process has also been going on under Obama as well, except that instead of tax cuts, corporations have been able to access zero-interest rate money, and have been using THAT as their fount of cash for stock buybacks. Thanks to the Fed, which the President has SOME control over.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Friday, November 10, 2017 4:37 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Here is your chance to be less ignorant: The latest news on the TRUMP'S tax front:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yep. Everybody is ignorant except for those who agree with T.
Senate Republicans on Thursday plan to propose delaying a cut in the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 20 percent until 2019, four people briefed on the planning said, a major departure from President Trump’s insistence on immediate changes that he says are necessary to spur the economy…. To try to prevent companies from waiting until 2019 to invest, Senate Republicans will propose to allow companies to immediately deduct all capital investments in 2018 to incentivize them to spend more money immediately, the people said.
www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/senate-gop-plan-would-delay-co
rporate-tax-cut-until-2019-breaking-with-trump/2017/11/09/92ea07ec-c55d-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html
I have two comments:
This is idiocy in the extreme. The sole reason for delaying the tax cut is to reduce the cost of the plan in its first ten years. It makes no sense as policy, but it’s a good way to game the CBO score.
It’s not a “major departure” from anything. Donald Trump doesn’t have a clue what he really wants, and he will praise anything that Republicans produce.
We are now entering serious smoke-and-mirrors territory.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly]
History has shown SECOND that they will take their savings and by back stock and spread it out amongst their shareholders. No jobs ever come from giving tax breaks to corporations. Only the rich win and the middle class gets screwed again.
Getting to be funny when the worst offenders of poor syntax get caught in the poor syntax of the others.
LOL...
T still hasn't fixed his color issue.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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