Is this really "the lowest point in our nation’s history that they can remember"?
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You are a part of the most privileged women that the history of the planet has ever seen, and you constantly whine and bitch about this every single day.
I think what I am angry about is the FACT FACT FACT that men in power take advantage of and abuse women in more ways every day than one could ever possibly count. THAT is what I have a problem with, the rampant murdering of women and children by MEN. The constant sexual and physical abuse that is predominately perpetrated by MEN. Men trying to control reproductive choices they can't even BEGIN to understand... The last 500,000 years of human history of being enslaved by men because they are the more violent. Women weren't even allowed to get a job until about 75 years ago. Women were only allowed to drive THIS YEAR in Saudi Arabia, which only further proves my point about male enslavement.
That you take issue with me pointing out we live in Man-grope-istan, proves you JUST DON'T GET IT. In fact EVERY TIME I point out statistical fact about males being more violent, you take offence and call me a feminist.
If you aren't violent and you are taking offence on behalf of all men, WOW are you a narcissistic twit. If you can't see you are part of the problem by not acknowledging the overwhelming preponderance of evidence about male violence and calling everyone who points it out a feminist, then you are a DENSE narcissistic twit, as well.
Either way, every day in every way...you prove you don't have a CLUE.
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Wow... that was actually a semi-pleasant response from Wishy. I'll ignore the insults because I know that must have been hard for you to do.
I don't deny stats about violence. I don't deny history. I don't hate women. I don't feel that women shouldn't be granted the same rights as men, and I don't take issue with the fact that in America today they are granted those rights.
What I take issue with is how people like you use those stats to attack every human who has a penis. Most men are NOT like that. We do NOT live in Man-Grope-istan. MOST men would lose their jobs, whatever limited status they may have, a chance at any future jobs, their families and more for doing anything like what you're talking about.
Look at your posts. Every one of them drips with misandry.
I think your problem is whenever you see a man, particularly a white man, you see President Trump, or Harvey Weinsten.
I think you need to redirect your hatred and phobias from men in general to ALL people with power, whether male or female.
Kiki says you hate everybody though. So maybe you should work on that first.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
What I take issue with is how people like you use those stats to attack every human who has a penis. Most men are NOT like that. We do NOT live in Man-Grope-istan. MOST men would lose their jobs, whatever limited status they may have, a chance at any future jobs, their families and more for doing anything like what you're talking about.
Look at your posts. Every one of them drips with misandry.
THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE NOT GETTING, YET AGAIN. If you haven't been reading the news for the last two months beyond Weinstein, you'd know it's a MUCH MUCH bigger problem than what you think it is. It's such a problem that many women give up talking about it because EVERY woman has a story of how a man's sex drive or violence has affected their lives. I know of at least two dozen women who have been raped or molested. EVERY WOMAN ON THIS PLANET DOES TOO. MEN DON'T LOSE THEIR JOBS, THEY GET HIGH-FIVED.
You can scream "misandry" all you want but it will NEVER change the FACT FACT FACT that males are more violent than females. WE live in Man-grope-istan, you live IN DENIAL.
I'm not posting that stats again, I've made my point a thousand times over. You have YET to provide any evidence to the contrary.
DONE WITH YOU.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Actually, she just dislikes 'people'. Because. people. That's her schtick.
Can't IMAGINE why I hate people...
(1) Drug abuse violations 1,841,182
(2) Driving while Intoxicated 1,427,494 (aka Felony DUI)
(3) Property crime 1,610,088 (includes burglary, larceny, theft, motor vehicle theft, and arson.)
(4) Larceny-theft 1,172,762
(5) Assault 1,305,693
(6) Disorderly conduct 709,105
(7) Liquor laws 633,654
(8) Violent crime 597,447 (including murder, non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, aggravated assault.
(9) Drunkenness 589,402
(10) Aggravated assault 433,945
(11) Burglary 303,853
(12) Vandalism 291,575
(13) Fraud 252,873
(14) Weapons violations (carrying or possession) 188,891
(15) Curfew and loitering 143,002
(16) Robbery 126,715
(17) Offenses against family and children 122,812
(18) Stolen property (buying, receiving, possession) 122,061
(19) Motor vehicle theft 118,231
(20) Forgery and counterfeiting 103,448
Poisoning the general public with bad pharmaceuticals, bad food, chemicals and pesticides
Having affairs
Animal abuse
Sport Hunters
Being a manipulative dick
Bible thumping
Narcissists
People who talk at the theater
People who don't understand personal space
People who leave large dogs alone with small children
People who take obliviousness to an art form
Wars
Genocide
Racial Crimes
People who use their kids to get "likes" or "views" on social media
Attention Whores
Hoarders
People who think sports are more important than EDUCATION in the school systems
Bad Doctors who are content to let the system scam people into believing they could EVER help them
Neighbors who don't understand what a property line is and let their spawn run all over your property all day long
People who can't put down a goddamn cell phone or video game long enough to not walk in traffic
Extremely patriotic people who don't understand that country lines are not an indicator of greatness, nor are flags a "team banner"
Here, Dr Cox sums it up pretty well...
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WISHI, you spew an endless stream of bile. I guess that's because you're in pain and your life really sucks. Plus it probably makes you feel superior, which is the one bright spot in your life. But, hon, many of the targets of your irritability aren't even worth your attention. All you're doing is making yourself miserable, making your family miserable, and probably shortening your life even more than it already is.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
What I take issue with is how people like you use those stats to attack every human who has a penis. Most men are NOT like that. We do NOT live in Man-Grope-istan. MOST men would lose their jobs, whatever limited status they may have, a chance at any future jobs, their families and more for doing anything like what you're talking about.
Look at your posts. Every one of them drips with misandry.
THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE NOT GETTING, YET AGAIN. If you haven't been reading the news for the last two months beyond Weinstein, you'd know it's a MUCH MUCH bigger problem than what you think it is. It's such a problem that many women give up talking about it because EVERY woman has a story of how a man's sex drive or violence has affected their lives. I know of at least two dozen women who have been raped or molested. EVERY WOMAN ON THIS PLANET DOES TOO. MEN DON'T LOSE THEIR JOBS, THEY GET HIGH-FIVED.
You can scream "misandry" all you want but it will NEVER change the FACT FACT FACT that males are more violent than females. WE live in Man-grope-istan, you live IN DENIAL.
I'm not posting that stats again, I've made my point a thousand times over. You have YET to provide any evidence to the contrary.
DONE WITH YOU.
1. I reject that you know two dozen women who have been raped or molested. That is purely anecdotal and considering the source it falls on deaf ears. Not only by me, but by everybody on this board, I'm sure.
2. Define rape. Define molestation. YOUR definition of these words.
3. Men DO lose their jobs. Men lose scholarships. Men get kicked out of school. Men lose their family. This is often true even if it is proven afterwards that the allegations were untrue. Just having the alligation against them is enough to do any of these things.
4. Men DO NOT get high fives for raping or molesting women. At least they don't from me, and not from any decent person on the planet.
5. If by Man-grope-istan, you mean the entire world, that term might mean something. But you're refering to the USA which is part of the Western World in 2017 that has the most liberated women who ever lived with equal rights and protections granted to them that men have.
They actually have additional rights and benefits that men don't have, such as not having a system where the parents can choose whether or not to mutilate their genitalia upon birth, full reproductive rights, not being forced to enlist for the draft and access to battered women shelters... to name a few.
Not only are you being silly and melodramatic, but you're insulting every woman who does live in a place where what you're talking about ACTUALLY HAPPENS.
YOU have lived a privileged and sheltered life. You complain about stuff that you have NO IDEA about.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Well, I have to say that this thread is certainly an example of the discord between Americans!
SIX, it's just as wrong to say that women in the USA (or people of color, or old people, or the disabled, or short people) live in perfect equality with tall white males because they have "formal" legal protections, because our laws say so.
That's wrong. We continue to subtly - and not so subtly- treat people prejudicially based on all kinds of characteristics. There are too many studies (and sting operations) of - for example- "blinded" evaluations or comparative success in credit, loan, job, or rental applications that demonstrate a widespread undercurrent of prejudice.
Men ARE, on the average, more violent than women. Given the crime stats, this may be the one characteristic where there is, in fact, very little overlap of the bell curves of men and women, where it would be fair to say that MOST men are more violent than MOST women. Whether that plays out as men being more assertive, or aggressive, or violent, that constant "bent" in male behavior subtly shapes this society's distribution of rewards, especially since THIS society rewards competition more than it rewards cooperation.
Maybe what WISHY is reacting to isn't the severity of the aggression (Altho there's plenty of that!) but its pervasiveness. It's impossible not to live, work, shop, or interact with men without experiencing it in some fashion ... from being interrupted, ignored, or patronized to being smacked (or worse).
At the same time, men are also subject to prejudices; the expectation that they are SUPPOSED to be tough must be a burden to many men.
So maybe we just admit that men and women are treated differently, and then figure out which (if any) differential treatment make sense, and then how to get rid of the rest. Why keep arguing about something that clearly exists?
At the same time, I will also admit that there is indeed reverse prejudice. But since women, people of color etc don't generally have their hands on the levers of reward, that prejudice tends to remain in the psychological realm, not in the practical one.
AND FINALLY- if there were meaningful jobs for everyone who could work, we wouldn't have to fight over them. The BIGGEST prejudice is against the 99%.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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HERE IS ANOTHER STRESSOR NOT MENTIONED IN THE FIRST POLL.
By the way, every time I see these kinds of "list" polls, I'm wary of the results. I frequently get polls from the DNC ... rank your concern about the following ... pick your top three (or five) concerns.
MOST OFTEN, my top concerns aren't even in the pick list! I alway write them in, even if I have to write in teeny-tiny letters in the margin, but I'm sure my answers are thrown out. As hubby likes to say: "I can determine the answers if you let me ask the questions."
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Corruption Of Government Officials Ranked Americans' Top Fear Of 2017
With Halloween just around corner, a recent survey shows what really keeps Americans awake at night. The Chapman University Survey of American Fears polled 1,207 U.S. adults on their level of fear across 80 different categories ranging from crime to personal anxieties and natural disasters. As in previous years, corruption of government officials was top by a significant margin in 2017 with 74.5 percent of U.S. adults saying it makes them either "afraid" or "very afraid".
This year's ranking reflects the political unrest and uncertainty brought about by Donald Trump's election to the presidency.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/10/19/corruption-of-go
vernment-officials-ranked-americans-top-fear-of-2017-infographic/#1eb035d21dff
I have to call BULLSHIT on that. The same result about corruption in government was found in a Gallup poll in 2015.
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75% in U.S. See Widespread Government Corruption
http://news.gallup.com/poll/185759/widespread-government-corruption.as
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Corruption in government. The swamp. The deep state. Whatever you want to call it, corrupt politicians - which is most of them - have no interest in noticing this issue.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Well there's obvious psychological "reverse discrimination" as you called it.
I just call it discrimination. There is no "reverse" about it. Part of the problem is the use of that word "reverse" before discrimination or racism or sexism or anything else. It's loosely tied to the pervasive myth that racism is prejudice + power, so it is impossible for anybody to be racist against white people.
At least women have equal protections under the law, even if they aren't always enforced as they should be in some case by case basis. Men in America do not have that privlidge.
There is not a single law or protection the government grants men that women aren't also granted. I can name more than several that men do not benefit from in 2017.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Agreed. Discrimination is discrimination, no matter which direction it's flowing. Also, not too keen on the designation "hate" crime, either. It's either a crime, or it's not. I don't see any "extra-special-crime" designation being useful.
I just call it discrimination. There is no "reverse" about it.- SIX
Quote:I think I know what you're saying, and I agree. It IS possible to be racist against whites, I've seen it all the time and had my "whiteness" held against me.
Part of the problem is the use of that word "reverse" before discrimination or racism or sexism or anything else. It's loosely tied to the pervasive myth that racism is prejudice + power, so it is impossible for anybody to be racist against white people.- SIX
Quote:You can? I can't think of a single statute or law that allows women more privilege than men. If you have some examples, let me know.
There is not a single law or protection the government grants men that women aren't also granted. I can name more than several that men do not benefit from in 2017.
BUT if you're going to bring up the whole "abortion" thing again, I will flatly disagree with you. Since women bear the social and professional burdens and medical risk of pregnancy - and there is no way for men to take that on themselves (For example, what if a pregnancy gets in the way of a job or promotion? Is the father of the baby going to be able to undo that lost opportunity?) then men have- IMHO- no say in the pregnancy or its outcome. "Donating" sperm simply isn't taking on enough responsibility to ensure any kind of authority, and in my book responsibility should = authority.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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