Trouble Looming for Bitcoin, FTX, ethereum and monero? 'We are about to see massive disruptions': IMF chief . Is Digi Money a Scam or Here to Stay?
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'We are about to see massive disruptions': IMF
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/13/bitcoin-get-serious-about-digital-curr
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on digital currency future
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Bankman-Fried, along with other industry executives, testified before the Committee on Financial Services in relation to regulating the cryptocurrency industry.
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There's the "blockchain technology" which acts like a distributed ledger, and then there are cryptocurrencies which are applications of blockchain, and then there is Bitcoin which is a specific cryptocurrency.
I think the blockchain technology is here to stay, but there are a lot of problems with the idea of crytpocurrencies. The upside to cryptocurrencies are that they are decentralized; but the downsides to cryptocurrencies is that they suffer the same flaws as ANY fiat currency, and in some ways are worse because they're completely electronic. So if the power goes out, or the sun burps at us, you're hosed.
What people claim are upsides to crytpocurrencies aren't really as solid as you might think.
For example, one original claim about Bitcoin is that it has to be "mined", and that there is an upper built-in fixed limit to the number of coins created, so technically it could not be inflated like bank-issued currencies. However, altho BITCOIN can't be reproduced, there's no restriction on the number of OTHER cryptocurrencies created, such as Litecoin, Auroracoin, Ethereum, Vertcoin etc. So there's no REAL protection from inflation by crypto. So as a "store of wealth", crytpocurrencies aren't all that robust.
Another presumed advantage of cryptos is that it is "private". Well, leave it to the spook agencies to figure out how to figure out the blockchain record of transactions, which are recorded at every step of the way.
A third presumed advantage is the ease of moving crytpocurrencies between exchanges for a very low fee, without the mediation of banks. The problem with being able to RELIABLY use crytpocurrencies to purchase stuff is that its value is rocketing up and down. It's impossible to "price" anything in crytpocurrency.
A fourth presumed advantage is the ability to bypass banks. But sooner or later, banks will ALSO issue their own cryptocurrencies, so ... what then?
As mentioned, cryptocurrencies, like fiat currency, have nothing to back them up, so there's no "there" there in terms of value. Security is an issue: I recall people storing their Bitcoin in Mount Gox, only to have it somehow stolen. And it suffers the same problem as regular currencies: Despite its decentralization, there's nothing to prevent people from "hoarding" or speculating on cryptos, so in terms of wealth equalization it's a bust.
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I think the blockchain technology is here to stay. It offers HUGE advantages in terms of recording transactions. But what I believe will happen is that there will be MANY applications of blockchain: nations (like Iceland and Russia) have already created national cryptos issued by central banks, and there will be many more crytpos created by banks, individuals, nations, and consortia. The "value" of each cryptocurrency will be decided on a number of factors, such as ease of use, stability of value, "backing" etc. MANY will fall by the wayside. Ultimately, I think there will be at least one gold-backed cryptocurrency if not more, and many national cryptocurrencies, and quite possibly one international-bank (IMF)-backed crytpocurrency, which may be backed by SDRs (special drawing rights). I honestly don't know if Bitcoin or the other "retail" cryptocurrencies will survive.
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The Next Generation Of Currency Wars: Private Vs State-backed Crypto
Recently Russia announced that it will be unleashing a CryptoRuble, just a week after Vladimir Putin strongly criticized Bitcoin and other private cryptocurrencies. When announcing the move, Minister of Communications Nikolay Nikiforov acknowledged that it was in part inspired by the aim of getting ahead of other governments:
I confidently declare that we run CryptoRuble for one simple reason: if we do not, then after two months our neighbors in the EurAsEC will.
In doing so, Russia is following the lead of another country that too has become hostile to private crypto, China. Last July the People’s Bank of China became the first central bank to announce it had developed a crypto-prototype that it plans to offer alongside the traditional renminbi.
That the first forays into state-backed cryptocurrency comes from two countries with a history of restricting a free and open internet is not surprising. While Bitcoin originated as a way to opt out of government control of money supply, increasingly governments see the underlying technology as a way to increase their control of the economy.
As Xiong Yue explained:
" For example, if the government plans to subsidize certain farms, say some corn farms, to support this sector of agriculture, they can directly add a certain amount of money to the wallets of some farms, for instance 100 million dollars and program this money to be sent to certain fertilizer merchants at a certain time, and that each can only spend maximum of 10 million dollars per year, and in this way, they can make sure that the farmers won’t squander the windfalls, and that this money won’t flow to other sectors, for instance, the stock market or real estate market. Even though this kind of monetary policy is bound to fail,
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from the perspective of government officials, CBDC provides them a better tool. For them, with the help of the CBDC, they can plan and manage the economy better."
Not to be left behind, the IMF – who some analysts, such as Jim Rickards, believe is prepared to step up to replace the US dollar as the next global reserve currency – recently opened the door to issuing their own cryptocurrency in the future. While some crypto-advocates have naively celebrated recent comments by Christine Lagarde on the future potential of digital currency, such praise simply reflects the increasing awareness of technocrats that the finance is changing and they must be prepared for it. Considering central banks around the world have continued to advance their war on cash, it is not surprising to see Lagarde and others come adapt to the concept so quickly.
Exchange Regulation
The usefulness of state-controlled crypto is why we should expect increased scrutiny and regulation on private cryptocurrency exchanges.
It's been reported that the Chinese government, which shutdown private crypto-exchanges in September, is looking into reopening exchanges with increased regulation. Russia, too, is working on exchange regulation, rather than an outright ban. This apparent change in direction may be the consequence of China’s exchange ban resulting in an increased use of peer-to-peer platforms in the face of the government crackdown.
For the same reason that government prefers regulated bank accounts to cash and safes, state officials may recognize the benefit to propping up licensed exchanges. Already we have seen numerous cryptoexchanges be willing to collect and hand-over sensitive customer information in exchange for government-issued licenses. Much like banks, these exchanges are increasingly being enlisted as tax collectors for government.
Calm Before the Storm?
While this loss of privacy may outrage Bitcoin’s initial supporters, it’s understandable why many current holders may be perfectly happy with these developments. After all, while much of Bitcoin’s initial appeal was its usefulness in black mark
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Crypto Chaos Explained - Bitcoin Crashes As 'Cash' Tops Ether For First Time
Bitcoin collapsed overnight, trading as low as $5555 - down 30% from its highs - before bouncing back above $6000, as Bitcoin Cash soared to as high as $2450 (4 times its price on Friday), overtaking Ethereum briefly as the second largest market cap cryptocurrency.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-12/crypto-chaos-explained-bitcoi
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This is part of that shakeout that I think will be taking place for the next 2-4 years. If you pick the winner, good on you!
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It's UP!
It's DOWN!
It's UP!
Today, it's DOWN.
Quote:Yes, you can make a lot of money on them, by speculating, but you need to be like a day-trader in cryptos, and watch those suckers like a hawk. It's not a "buy and walk away" kind of investment.
Cryptos Are Crashing Again![]()
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Just think of the poor guy who mined Bitcoin when it was pennies, stored them on his hard drive and forgot about them when he threw out his old PC!
'I could have gone around the world or bought a yacht': How throwing out one computer part cost an Australian tech expert $4.8 MILLION
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4543488/Man-throws-Bitcoin-har
d-drive-worth-4-8billion.html
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Quote:Eh. Kinda like Mt Gox.
Largest Crypto-Mining Exchange Confirms It Was Hacked, Over $50 Million In Bitcoin Stolen
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The videos I had seen about bitcoin weren't just about speculation. They were touting Bitcoin as the "perfect currency".... One that could not be managed by banks, or split on Congress' (or any other government's) whim.
I dunno... doesn't the fact that it was less than 50 bucks a year ago and is now nearly $15,000 per "coin" kind of eliminate most of it's intrinsic value? How is this supposed to be used as currency when nobody but the uber-rich can afford a single one?
The ONLY thing I see going for it right now is that there is (supposedly) a finite amount of them. At the end of the day, all it is, is 1's and 0's.
I don't know how the speculation happened and how it reached this level, and I don't know when the bubble is going to burst, but what I think we're witnissing here is the prelude to a crash so hard that people will never use crypto-currency again, no matter how much of a "perfect currency" it has the potential of being. You won't be able to buy anything with it if nobody will accept it as payment. Unlike Federal issued USD, there is no laws anywhere I know of that say it is against the law for any business not to accept it as payment.
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Part of the problem with a "currency" whose value zooms up (and down) with astronomical speed is the inability to PRICE anything. It's a moment-to-moment value.
Let's see, your price for this widget will be 0.0012 ... no 0.0013 .... er, no 0.0010 ... no wait, 0.0008 ... hold on a sec, 0.0017 Bitcoin!
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Well, right. That's my point exactly. The only reason why Bitcoin was supposed to be worth anything was because it was a better alternative than the USD. But it's just proven that it's not at all immune to rampant speculation and obscenely wild price fluctuations, so that entire idea is shot.
I thought my triple gains in Google many years back was pretty crazy, but Google was actually doing a lot of stuff as a company. There is no legitimate reason that Bitcoin is going for nearly $15,000 per coin right now other than speculation. Bitcoin was supposed to be good for one thing, and now it's not good at that anymore. A crash is inevitable, and I don't see how crypto-currency can bounce back from that stigma once it happens.
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