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SECOND

Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:05 PM

Clearly, you are not interested in what Trump's North Korean strategy is. Remember his "Only one thing will work" in dealing with North Korea? What is Trump's "thing"? It will be a surprise!
www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41540736

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, you have ENDLESSLY splattered the board with your anti-Trump schiess, on everything from his pink hair to his orange skin to his small hands and nude portrait; blaming Trump for being rich, for cheating on his taxes, for getting peed on by a prostitute, for colluding with Russia, for "racism", for warmongering (also see Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, and Carter), and for the process of advancing wealth inequality, which (as I've pointed out) has been going on for centuries (including being aided and abetted by Bill Clinton and Barack Obama) not just the past nine months.

You've posted so much anal-splatter on the board, about how bad Trump is, how bad Texas Republicans are, how "stupid" people are ... I can't even keep track of all the bullshit that you posted, most of which makes no sense at all.

Clearly, you're just obsessively and selectively looking for anything and everything that puts Trump in a bad light. If you should happen to hit on one or two real issues, that doesn't explain or excuse all the rest of the crap that you posted. You're still an elitist butt hurt globalist shill.

AND your allegiances are STILL elsewhere. It's like you can't even talk about "America" or "Americans", as if the very concept offends you.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:30 PM

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Clearly, you are not interested in what Trump's North Korean strategy is. Remember his "Only one thing will work" in dealing with North Korea? What is Trump's "thing"? It will be a surprise! - SECOND

Who says I'm not interested? I'm just not interesting in discussing it with you, because all YOU'RE interested in is spreading your political religion. Which is, to repeat myself, forwarding a "globalist" agenda which puts everyone else's interests ahead of ours, and which diminishes the role of democracy in the USA by handing off our sovereignty to faceless international bankers, nameless commissions, and secret trade tribunals.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SECOND

Thursday, October 12, 2017 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
. . . to repeat myself, forwarding a "globalist" agenda which puts everyone else's interests ahead of ours, and which diminishes the role of democracy in the USA by handing off our sovereignty to faceless international bankers, nameless commissions, and secret trade tribunals.

You've been reading too much propaganda written in Russia for American consumption, comrade Signym. I would never question your loyalty or patriotism to Russia/America/I have no idea what country you logged in from, you big fake.
www.nytimes.com/2017/10/09/technology/russia-election-facebook-ads-rag
e.html

Trump has been reading too much Richard Nixon:

Trump Threatens NBC TV Licenses After Story on Nuclear Buildup

In 1972, President Richard Nixon urged his lieutenants to interfere with the renewal of the Washington Post’s licenses for Florida TV stations. “Of all the threats to the company during Watergate — the attempts to undermine our credibility, the petty slights, and the favoring of the competition — the most effective were the challenges to the licenses of our two Florida television stations,” publisher Katharine Graham wrote in 1997.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-threatens-nbc-licenses-after-sto
ry-on-nuclear-buildup/ar-AAtiwA6

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Thursday, October 12, 2017 12:31 AM

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You've been reading too much propaganda written in Russia for American consumption, comrade Signym. I would never question your loyalty or patriotism to Russia/America/I have no idea what country you logged in from, you big fake.

You big fucking hypocritical liar, you have OFTEN questioned my loyalty to America.

THIS, from the person (along with a whole bunch of other phony patriots here) who can't even bring themselves to discuss America's interests, as if there shouldn't be any.

But you'll endlessly whine and cry about "the poor (fill in the blank with the victim subgroup of the moment here)"

What a fucking douche.

ETA: But if ANY of you phony-patriot lib-Dem globalists want to rectify that disgust with talking about America's Interests you can find that thread here. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60986

Maybe this time you'll add something besides personal insults, avoidance, and cowardice.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SECOND

Thursday, October 12, 2017 1:06 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

What a fucking douche.

You're losing your cool, comrade Signym. You're as thin-skinned as your heroic Trump. To argue your case, find a way to align your views with Trump's buttons, then push them unashamedly. Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, Trump’s national security adviser, reportedly persuaded him to send more troops to Afghanistan in part by showing him a photo from the 1970s of women in Kabul wearing miniskirts. (See, he seemed to suggest, Afghans can be just like us.) Maybe Tillerson, McMaster, and Secretary of Defense James Mattis are figuring out other paint-by-numbers games for keeping Trump in their lane on other matters, too.

www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2017/10/now_we_kn
ow_why_rex_tillerson_called_donald_trump_a_moron.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Thursday, October 12, 2017 1:11 AM

SECOND, I'm not losing my cool. I'm simply describing you as I see you: You're a hypocritical liar and a phony patriot who can't even seem to imagine that "Americans" might actually have many things in common. Instead, you seem more intent on splitting people apart, looking down on an awful lot of people, denigrating democracy, and pandering to victim subgroups, your favorite of which is "the poor illegal immigrant".

Until you learn to DISCUSS things with people instead of constantly proselytizing with an endless stream of mostly bullshit, there's not much point in discussing much of anything with you.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THGRRI

Thursday, October 12, 2017 1:29 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Trolling AGAIN SECOND-RATE?
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Originally posted by second:
There is no discussion because I refuse to discuss anything because I'm a troll and RUSSIA! and blah blah blah

Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

One tool of trolling is posting from zerohedge. All non trolls know that. All trolls do it regardless of the fact that the writers there hide their identities.

SIGNYM

Thursday, October 12, 2017 1:59 AM

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Originally posted by second: There is no discussion because I refuse to discuss anything because I'm a troll and RUSSIA! and blah blah blah ... - KIKI

One tool of trolling is posting from zerohedge. All non trolls know that. All trolls do it regardless of the fact that the writers there hide their identities. - THUGR

Oh goody, another phony patriot know-nothing.. Zerohedge is more of an aggregator, not many posts are actually authored by "Tyler Durden". And since Zerohedge posts LINKS to where they get their stories it's incredibly easy to use the links to follow the info back to its source.

You DO know how to use links, right?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SECOND

Saturday, October 14, 2017 8:03 AM

How Amazon’s Accounting Makes Rich People’s Income Invisible
https://angrybearblog.com/2017/10/how-amazons-accounting-makes-rich-pe
oples-income-invisible.html

Image you’re Jeff Bezos, circa 1998. You’re building a company (Amazon) that stands to make you and your compatriots vastly rich.

But looking forward, you see a problem: if your company makes profits, it will have to pay taxes on them. (At least nominally, in theory, 35%!) Then you and your investors will have to pay taxes on them again when they’re distributed to you as dividends. (Though yes, at a far lower 20% rate than what high earners pay on earned income.) Add those two up over many years, and you’re talking tens, hundreds of billions of dollars in taxes.

You’re a very smart guy. How are you going to avoid that?

Simple: don’t show any profits (or, hence, distribute them as dividends). Consistently set prices so you constantly break even. This has at least three effects:

1. You undercut all your competitors’ prices, driving them out of business. Nobody who’s trying to make a profit can possibly compete.

2. You control more and more market share.

3. You build a bigger and bigger business.

Number 3 is how you monetize this, personally. The value of the company (its share price/market cap) rises steadily. Obviously, a business with $136 billion in revenues (2016) is going to be worth more than one with $10 or $50 billion in revenues — even if it never shows a “profit.” You take your profits in capital gains.

Because stock-market investors are always going to be thinking: “They could always turn the dial from market share to profits. Just raise prices a skootch, and reap the harvest. In spades.”

But: they never do. It’s like a perpetual-motion machine, or holding yourself up by your own bootstraps. All that rising valuation is eternally based on the fact that they could raise prices and deliver profit (and yes: they could). In the meantime the business both generates and has massive value. It employs 270,ooo people, delivers zillions in employee compensation, pays zillions more to suppliers, receives hundreds of billions in revenues, and dominates whole segments of multiple industries. Are there really no “profits”? Nobody’s being irrational here.

Here are the results of your long-term plan:

Half a trillion dollars in revenues.

Essentially zero profits. Ever.

Dollars delivered onto investors’ balance sheets? Somewhere north of 300 billion.

And instead of being double-taxed on profits for all that time, investors’ income is taxed once, at the low 20% capital gains rate. And that, only when those gains are “realized” through sale of the stock. In the meantime it’s all tax-deferred — yet another huge effective-tax-rate win for shareholders. The longer they hold, the bigger the win. If they pass the stock on to their heirs, those gains are never taxed at all.

And just to mention in passing, none of that shareholder income ever appears as household income in the national accounts. It might as well not exist.

You gotta be impressed. That Jeff Bezos is a very smart guy.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1KIKI

Saturday, October 14, 2017 11:16 AM

THANKS! for not discussing the topic! Again.