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Another series of Mass Shootings... at Las Vegas... 40 + People Dead?

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Friday, October 6, 2017 9:51 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND- I think that while living in the same physical environment, women and men live in different worlds. Most women don't automatically scan a room of people when they first enter to estimate who can "take on" whom and win. This is a mostly male perspective. I don't know how common it is among men, but it's only been expressed to me by men.

From the footnotes of the article about mass murderers: "There were three female killers in our sample but this was too small a group for proper analysis."

The younger group of mass murderer males (average age 23) tended to have been in trouble with the law, they were more likely to have had mental illness. In other words — at the age where young men are acquiring status, and the skills and abilities that will enable them to do so — they were, in fact, acquiring signs that they were on a fast track to reproductive oblivion. In ancestral times — times without highly trained and equipped SWAT teams — a “Hail Mary” attempt to attract female attention and make ‘them’ take you seriously might (just might) have worked. Follow-up work we are doing suggests that many of this type do attract a significant amount of female attention when in prison. (7)

The older group of mass murderer males (average age 41) were much more likely to be married, and maybe have families. They were less likely to have had prior signs of legal issues or of mental illness. But a peek into their personal details (so far as we were able) revealed that they had a pattern of recent status loss — or threat of same. A job. A relationship. Custody battles. A looming scandal. These older guys were not so much trying to acquire status, their actions looked more like a highly pathological attempt to not lose it. No more rational than the desperate “If I cannot have you then no-one can” actions of a jealous murderer, the role of status possibly sheds some light on their final act.

www.psychologytoday.com/blog/hive-mind/201710/mass-killings-evolutiona
ry-perspective


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 6, 2017 11:05 PM

Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock planned to live, ‘plotted more mayhem’ and had an escape route
http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/gunman-stephen-paddock-book
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HE died in the room where he launched his deadly shooting spree but it’s emerged the Las Vegas killer had an escape plan — and more mayhem to unleash.

here's one floating around conspiracy circles and the people who vist those blogs and forums, David Icke, Steven M. Greer, Jim Marrs, Mike Rivero, Rense Radio, Jordan Maxwell, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, Adam Kokesh, Stefan Molyneux, Lew Rockwell, Mike Adams, Drudge Report, Alex Jones type news emails

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I knew I recognized the name of Stephen Paddock.

He was the DOD Auditor at Morton Thiokol from 1985-1988
when the Challenger disaster occurred in 1986.

Paddock as DOD Auditor was the SOB that was supposed to be auditing that DOD Protocols were in compliance before approving Invoices.

In other words, Paddock should have certified there existed the proper storage space, Class A clean lab and that low temperature facility was being used or contracted. None of this was done by Paddock in retrospect. In other words,
it appears this man was a possible plant to sabotage the Thiokol Space Shuttle program which resulted in Lockheed Martin picking up all the prime aerospace contracts. This happened 32 years ago. Who placed Paddock as the DOD Auditor and which Thiokol Execs interfaced with Paddock?

Did Paddock also purchase guns from any Utah gun store during late 1980s? Probably all the relevant documentation was mislabeled or hit the Deep Six and cannot be recovered.

Paddock owned two planes, multiple rental properties, lived in 27 different locations, bought weapons that could be converted to full auto for decades and visited numerous large cities.

The old CIA business model says they hired “disgruntled” IRS employees, who had a foreign wife to launder funds overseas, operate from multiple locations, hired to setup sting ops originally for drug buys and later auto gun sales.

One FBI stated that Paddock was a CIA operative for sting operations acting as the high roller gun sales.
His wife was CIA from 1999. One of his planes with N5343 tracks back and co-owned by a CIA contractor in Roanoke, VA.

Paddock did not become a millionaire in “real estate”, these were payoffs or kickbacks from some Gov Agency.

You cannot wire $100K to any foreign bank without it being traced - nothing said or done in her case. ISIL may
have been the buyer for guns and explosives found in room. They may have killed Paddock and turned the guns on the Concert which is why they are taking credit. Numerous videos show multiple shooters. Gov story was
almost immediately a “single shooter” and nothing more to see here-move on.

The whole Gov story is falling apart.

Who the hell is Stephen Paddock really? Far more than what the Public is being told.

LV was a total screw up as a sting operation by somebody.



or just a tinfoil headed conspiracy

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Friday, October 6, 2017 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

You've got two jobs Wishy. Whatever your day job is and professional victim.



SAYS THE GUY WHO IS LITERALLY A PROFESSIONAL VICTIM.

Agoraphobic?? Nope. Just a lazy pussy. Been lazy and useless so long you don't know how to do anything else.




LOL

I admit my issues and my flaws.

I've done exceedingly well in some areas and not so great in other areas.

I don't look at my life and say "poor me. I'm so victimized." on a daily basis and blame my problems on other people.

OONJ gives me a potential out in the other thread, basically telling me that there are genetic identifiers that could likely have picked up right after I was born that I would have a lot of these issues. You are the type of person who would glom on to this data and use it as an excuse for your behavior and your position in life. I, on the other hand, take full responsibility for my actions.

I'm trying to make life better for myself. I'm trying to live without anger and hatered. I don't hold on to that anger anymore.

A year ago, deep in my alcoholism, I probably would have been very angry at you for all of the terrible stuff you say about me here on a nearly daily basis.

I just feel nothing but pity for you now. Pretty much everybody here sees what is going on.

You have some severe mental and emotional issues, and I feel that you're doing nothing to even attempt ridding yourself of them because you have yet to admit that you even have a problem.

I really do hope the best for you.

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Saturday, October 7, 2017 12:55 AM

SECOND: Your article is bullshit. "Evolution" isn't propelled by only one trait.

Here's how I see it: Females reproduction is, for mammals, the rate-limiting step. Males can scatter their sperm here, there, and elsewhere, but unless those offspring actually reach reproductive age themselves, it's a "legacy" dead end.

Since human babies are helpless for such long periods of time relative to other mammals ... not even able to walk for the first year but needing to be hand-carried fer chrissake, and only primitively self-sufficient MAYBE at the age of ten, it takes far more effort than can be supplied by one human (mom) to raise at least two children up to reproductive age.

Birds share a similar problem (demanding young) and have solved the problem by devoting BOTH parents to raising the young. The male's ongoing contribution to the youngsters is critical to species survival. Similar situation among humans ... it takes ... well, maybe not a village, but a tribe, or at least an extended family, to raise a child.

So from the offspring's side, cooperation is built into the human genome, because without it, we would not have survived as a species. (Please read "The Descent of Woman" https://www.amazon.com/Descent-Woman-Classic-Study-Evolution/dp/028562
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which makes this logic abundantly clear)

Now, from the MALE GENE standpoint, he will be the most reproductively successful if he rapes a huge number of women who live in (other) viable societies. HE spreads his genes far and wide, but doesn't have to expend any energy raising the young .... that's left for other men and women to do for him. Which explains why 1 in 200 men are direct descendants of Genghis Khan. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/08/1-in-200-men-direct-des
cendants-of-genghis-khan
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But that reproductive success depends on a number of social factors: The presence of many other viable societies which can be (in effect) parasitized, and the definition of "success" as being able to physically dominate women.

When you look at somebody like Stephen Paddock, he's the inverse of the successful reproducer. In fact, the most successful men of today either have no children or very few. It seems to me like the traits that are evolutionarily favored are disconnected from the traits of individual success (desire to stand out, willingness to tolerate risk, ability to find the nexus of social control for personal power). So I still come back to the idea that the problem with people like Paddock is that some controlling function in their brain just went haywire, and allowed dysfunctional behaviors to emerge.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Saturday, October 7, 2017 3:42 AM

Conspiracy about other shooters or operation Gladio B, where do all these conspiracy come from?

misinformation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_Strip_shooting
In the hours after the shooting, false information about the shooter's identity and motive went viral on social media. The fake news was circulated by political fringe websites and Internet forums such as 4chan. The right-wing website The Gateway Pundit misidentified the shooter, naming a different man and describing him as a registered Democrat. The 4chan thread on which this misinformation was based was briefly featured in the "Top Stories" section of a Google search for the man's name.The fake news website YourNewsWire spread false information about a second gunman shooting from the fourth floor of the hotel.[80] Two of Facebook's top trending pages were items from Sputnik, a Russian government news agency that has been described by Foreign Policy magazine and the Center for European Policy Analysis as being a "Russian propaganda" outlet. These included one story that falsely claimed the FBI had linked the shooter to a terrorist group. The stories were later removed with an apology. Stories linking the shooter to Antifa have also been discredited.

Google and Facebook were criticized for prominently displaying such false news stories in some of their search results. The two companies were said to have failed in their responsibility of keeping false stories from reaching the public. Facebook later said its algorithms were designed to detect and remove false stories, but failed to work adequately in this instance.

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Saturday, October 7, 2017 4:57 AM

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In a possible sign he was contemplating massacres at other sites, he also booked rooms overlooking the Lollapalooza festival in Chicago in August and the Life Is Beautiful show near the Vegas Strip in late September, according to authorities reconstructing his movements leading up to the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.


Frustrated Police Appeal For Public’s Help in Shooting Case
http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2017/10/06/slain-vegas-officer-hartfield-
mourned-shooting-probe-continues
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After five days of scouring the life of Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock and chasing 1,000 leads, investigators confessed Friday they still don’t know what drove him to mass murder, and they announced plans to put up billboards appealing for the public’s help.

Investigators have examined Paddock’s politics, his finances, any possible radicalization and his social behavior — typical investigative avenues that have helped uncover the motive in past shootings.

“We still do not have a clear motive or reason why,” Undersheriff Kevin McMahill said. “We have looked at literally everything.”

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Saturday, October 7, 2017 5:11 AM


“We still do not have a clear motive or reason why,” Undersheriff Kevin McMahill said. “We have looked at literally everything.”





Because when something as so horrible and senseless as this happens, and our ' authorities ' can't give any answer, comedy.

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Saturday, October 7, 2017 6:40 AM

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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
6 has a point.

What I mainly work on now is a bit of mental control: meditation for peace.



I'm sorry your mom was a witch, but it really is NOTHING compared to the scale of damage that men do every day. Your generation tends to idolize men and not see their faults, because my grandma is just like that.

I've LITERALLY never met a "prince" as you call them. Meditation does NOTHING to acknowledge or stop the problem that is the reason of this thread. You've stopped caring, but I got a daughter I don't want victimized by obliviousness. She knows never to trust a man, she will be much better off.



Meditation is a fine treatment for stress, fear, anger, thus restoring One's objectivity.
I recommend it.

Mom often had good cause to be a witch. Problem was, like half my family, Mom was OCD.
Once the Witch got loose, she couldn't shut it up.

My generation did idolize Men. There was no women's lib back then that got any attention.
MEN were the Leaders, Doers, Heroes, both in Real Life and for sure in the Movies. Don't
think I ever heard of women like Madame Curry until I was full growed.

As for "the scale of damage that men do every day," the majority are doing more good
than harm as a matter of course, but not getting any publicity for it.

If no one takes you seriously, Wishy, it's 'cause you're stuck in a non-objective rant ...
just like my Mom was.


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Saturday, October 7, 2017 8:48 AM

Are white males responsible for more mass shootings than any other group?
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/oct/06/newsweek/a
re-white-males-responsible-more-mass-shootings-an
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Oonj: As the stats reported in the article are just White Males in the USA,
I wonder how we compare to White Males in Europe & Canada?

Assuming EU & CAN have many white males equally as unstable & dangerous
as those in my homeland(USA), Why don't we hear of their mass shootings? ??



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Saturday, October 7, 2017 1:41 PM

I would assume that stricter gun laws have something to do with it.



Once again though, I find the headlines that the MSM use in their articles to be misleading and careless.

51% is a Majority, but most people don't think of a majority in those terms. When numbers aren't presented along with that word, most people tend to think of a majority as much closer to "all" than "half".

So unless you've got an underlying motivation other than enlightening people, to say that a majority of mass shootings is done by white males when the number is 54 to 63% depending on the source is not really a great title of an article. It's obviously politically motivated by identity politics of the left as another opportunity to paint white men in general as demons.

That's not even considering what we've already discussed that out of every white male that ever lived in America, something like 0.000000127% of them were mass murderers.



Even though the link you posted here finishes up with "Mostly True", I think the one of the two most important quotes in the article comes right before that verdict.

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Newsweek's claim is literally accurate. But it's worth noting the imprecision of this data, and the percentage of mass shootings by white men is lower than their share of the male population, according to Mother Jones.


The other one was about halfway through the article.

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We should note that some experts expressed concern that if the public debate around gun violence focuses too much on mass shootings, there’s a risk of overlooking the fact that gun murders disproportionately affect minorities, especially African-Americans.


Note that the direction of that statement is about how it negatively impacts minorities, especially African-Americans, while it doesn't clearly state that a disproportionate amount of gun murders are committed by minorities, especially African-Americans.



It's possible to lie when using the truth to do it. People need to stop letting the media manipulate them.

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