Another series of Mass Shootings... at Las Vegas... 40 + People Dead?
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UPDATED: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 05:43
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While men constitute the majority of those convicted of a violent crime, the majority of men aren't violent.
Men are also more likely to be autistic
...and more likely to be sociopaths
It's almost as if there are more genetic controls on female brain development/behavior than on male brain development/behavior. - SIGNY
Sorry, I dispute that. Violence isn't JUST in criminal convictions. It's the whole picture. Which was MY point. Every man I've ever met is violent in some way. Whether it's beating the kids, the wife, sport shooting, violent games, self-harm, punching walls ...
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... OR going to jail for something. - WISHY
Yanno WISHY, you're one of the angriest people here. Now, you may have your reasons, but I wouldn't be going around telling people that all men are violent and angry if I were you, otherwise someone might mistake you for a man.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Goin' back to the PRE-Civilization caveman days with Alley Oop
(& Oola) by V.T. Hamlin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V._T._Hamlin
Back in those days, it was just "natural" & inevitable.
Men were strong & adventurous; women were beautiful &
liked to? stay home cleaning the Cave.
It's true, too: Men are built for running, hunting & combat;
women are built for babies.
In my youth, it seemed very unfair to let the men have all the fun.
But when I watch boxing or football ... Let George do it.
Men & Women are different because it took both sets of
skills to maintain a community in the old days. Even now,
as I see it, vive la difference.
I no longer worry about the very unfairness of it.
... oooOO}{OOooo ...
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I have a feeling there is some sort of deception or lies going on, I don't know where it is coming from but something is not adding up
He planned this, maybe even wanted to shoot up a ?Life is Beautiful Festival? before this event? He is or was rich, can send money, wire hundred thousand dollars? He has a safe the size of a fridge? Some clips say he had no training but clearly he has training and some sort of weapons experience. Now there is talk of a Secret Life? He possibly once worked for the government, maybe NASA or worked in Defense? He had Explosives in Rooms or Cars? Possible Domestic Terrorism?
Will we ever get the full truth?
There’s no way to report many of the fastest-spreading Las Vegas conspiracy theories on Facebook
https://qz.com/1094282/las-vegas-shooting-theres-no-way-to-report-many
-of-the-fastest-spreading-las-vegas-conspiracy-theories-on-facebook/
It is possible the NRA is itself part of this crazy media industry, the film mkaer Moore who did an interview/ambush on that old actor, Bowling for Columbines famous Charlton Heston Clips....Does it suit the NRA and other groups to politicall bunker down and sell a conspiracy that somthing is up? there are second shooters, something false, people lying or acting...who wins and can profit from dis-information? Are Facebook and Google now blocking links to 4Chan, Blogs and Facebook itself?... Would this be false and conspiracy or some tinfoil plot sold by fanatic gun owners?
https://8ch.net/pol/index.html
...the Paranoid Gun Loving Redneck Conspiracy?
Four Seasons Hotel Las Vegas is not a stand-alone structure. It is located on the top five floors of Mandalay Bay
'....need to explore the angle of...'
but what are the facts???
...on Vegas...We know the City was Described Many Times as 'Sin City' and Historically Built by the Mob
Are the Facts on all this Man's Actions Adding Up?
Next
His room....
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which goes for $590 US a night, was free for Paddock because he was a good customer who wagered tens of thousands of dollars each time he visited the casino
items confiscated from Paddock included 1,600 rounds of ammunition and several containers of an explosive commonly used in target shooting that totaled 50 pounds. But it wasn't clear what, if anything, Paddock planned to do with the explosives, the sheriff said.
Las Vegas sheriff says gunman's 'secret life' slowing search for motive
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/las-vegas-shooting-motive-1.4333737
'He had to have help at some point': Las Vegas gunman's level of planning, firearms and ammo point to an ACCOMPLICE, police say - as they search for mystery woman he was seen with in his last days
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4950426/Las-Vegas-shooter-ESCA
PE-planned-police-reveal.html#
Google said in a statement that a link to the "Politically Incorrect" message board on 4chan.org appeared for several hours in its "Top Stories" search results before its search algorithm replaced it with more relevant results. The 4chan result only appeared "for a small number of queries," Google said.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/las-vegas-latest-officials-update-number-o
f-firearms-found-1.3614896
Facebook said its security team removed results from the conservative political website "The Gateway Pundit" and other similar posts.
Writer Walter Kirn says, I fear the #LasVegasShooter acted out of that most chilling & empty of all-American motives. To set a record. To be number one. That's it
Chilling indeed, and chillingly plausible.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/10/03/las_vegas_shooting_q
uestions_still_unanswered.html
Las Vegas gunman targeted aviation fuel tanks during shooting spree, report says
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/05/las-vegas-gunman-targeted-aviatio
n-fuel-tanks-during-shooting-spree-report-says.html
We are getting answers from the mainstream media and facts on the crime sc
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@ wishi - apparently you've been in a deep coma for the past 10 years. Yes, many have been saying that men and women are exactly the same, and that gender is a false social construct. And the issue here is not "jobs". My God, we're talking about the physiology and biological differences of men and women. Our bodies are different, our brains to work differently. That is undeniable.
I know for damn sure that I am wasting my time trying to explain this to a person who is dead set on trying to steer the conversation into uncharted, unrelated matters.
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I don't mean to derail the thread from the shooting event, there's a lot of new and puzzling information coming out about it this. For example, when I first heard that Paddock had 10 guns in his hotel room, I wondered how he could have gotten all of them past hotel security. Now that I read that he had "over 20" guns in his room, plus who-knows-how-many magazines of ammo ... it's not that a 64 year-old man couldn't carry all that stuff up to his room, but it would require MANY trips .... with heavy bags ... up the elevator. So, what is Mandalay Bay .... the Equifax of hotel security??
But to get back to the issue of men and women ... WISHY, if you insist that "men" are more violent than "women", and you make this an issue of sex, then you're opening yourself up to the argument that "men" are also SMARTER than women because of their sex. Discrimination based on genetics cuts both ways.
I think YOUR problem, WISHY, and a problem that a LOT of people have, is that they deal with people categorically instead of individually. We get used to talking about "men" and "women" and "old people" and "they" as if every single member meets the characteristics that we've assigned to the category. "Men" are more violent than women, "men" are taller than women, "men" are smarter than women. IN REALITY, there is a huge overlap between men and women. Yes, men ON THE AVERAGE are taller than women, but does that mean that all men are taller than all women? Yes, men on the average have a slightly higher IQ than women, but did you know that Emmy Noether, a female mathematician in pre-WWII Europe and contemporary of Einstein, solved a mathematical conundrum at the heart of Einstein's theory by forwarding a theorem now called "Noether's Theorem", and that Einstein called her a "genius"? Yes, "men" are ON THE AVERAGE more violent than women, but there are plenty of peaceable men, and plenty of violent women. Instead of dealing with people categorically, maybe we should assess them individually? Statistics do indeed tell us something about the associations of one thing to another .... blacks are interpersonally more violent than whites, but whites are mass murderers ... but instead treating everyone as if they're the inevitable outcome of their genes, we should probably look at them as individuals instead. That overcomes the problem of both positive and negative prejudice.
Back to our regularly scheduled topic ....
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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wow... nicely stated.
I have no response to that.
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I'm not meaning to target you specifically Sig, yours was just the post that finally jolted me to join in this discussion:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
it's not that a 64 year-old man couldn't carry all that stuff up to his room, but it would require MANY trips .... with heavy bags ... up the elevator. So, what is Mandalay Bay .... the Equifax of hotel security??
Are you suggesting there's something wrong with an American citizen carrying his arsenal of 20 guns around with him? Is that not his constitutional right?
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WISHY, if you insist that "men" are more violent than "women",
Just skimming through this thread, but is the idea that men are statistically more violent than women supposed to be controversial?
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then you're opening yourself up to the argument that "men" are also SMARTER than women because of their sex.
More 'violent' and more 'intelligent' - to me that sounds contradictory.
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Yes, men on the average have a slightly higher IQ than women,
There are many different types of intelligence, IQ is the male scientists' who invented it idea of intelligence. Naturally it skews towards male brains, one could argue.
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Instead of dealing with people categorically, maybe we should assess them individually?
I think we can all agree that it's bad to stereotype. Can we not also agree that statistics can teach us profound things about ourselves and our societies - things that, maybe, we ought to confront? Being able to mentally hold both of these truths at once is the key to grown up debate.
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
I no longer worry about the very unfairness of it.
It may not bug you as much, because you may not have not been affected by it as much?
I'm a woodworker. Have been since I was old enough to swing a hammer. In Jr High, I was put in a group with other males who would not let me touch a single tool for a group project. I went and did my own project and got an D on it because I!!! didn't work in the group when there was NO working with them.
Took woodshop and tech crew in high school when all the other girls -except one- didn't. I have seen how incredibly assholic a male can be to a female when she holds power tools... dozens of times. The other girl was injured because of a guy in the class that just could not leave her alone. Had to have plastic surgery on her face.
I even worked at a veneer plant with all guys who tried to get me fired when I suggested to the boss he have a talk with one of the pricks that could not shut up about "T and A" ALL DAY LONG. I didn't go above anyone's head, I didn't file anything, I tried to be civil and they tried to fire me for it! I had to threaten to sue. The plant closed a couple weeks later, thankfully.
I have three family members who work construction. Had I been born with a penis, I would have been invited to join the family business, but because I have tits instead, two of them cannot even look me in the eye when they speak to me.
When I was a night manager at a gas station, one of the people I was in charge of was infatuated with me. Used to call me at home and tell me he loved me (he was 46, black, a drunk, and a foot shorter than me
). I finally had to tell him off, and he decided that after that he wasn't going to do anything I asked him to do, so I ended up doing BOTH our jobs, until I could find another.The ONLY males I have found that have half of brain one are on the Autism Spectrum, and it's because they are smart enough to know gender doesn't really matter. They get put down because they are different, so they know what that means. Have not met one neuro-typical male who could put the gender crap down long enough to just get the damn work done.
I have many many more stories, but because I am the only female living near my grandmother (as she had three sons and my mother lives in Texas) I spent all day driving her around and doing ridiculous nonsensical errands (today was picking up an old carpet remnant so she could put it in the garage??) and I am tired.
Men SUCK.
Even my dad, who was fairly smart...raped mom because he thought he could. Violently beat us because his dad did. Told me I couldn't have his truck, because girls shouldn't drive trucks. Not the first idiot I've heard THAT from...
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Originally posted by AURAPTOR:
@ wishi - apparently you've been in a deep coma for the past 10 years. Yes, many have been saying that men and women are exactly the same, and that gender is a false social construct.
Just AVENS and Non-binary say that, but of course you would think if one person on the opposing side says it they all must.
Normal people just want normal job rights. That's what it's ALWAYS been about, since Rosie the Riveter...
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