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Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:59 AM

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:


I didn't imply that a bakery that actively catered only to straight Christians would be shut down by SJWs. You inferred that.

Either way, that gets shut down too.

Why did the democrats ban smoking from all bars instead of letting the market decide?





Maybe because you whine about them every thirty seconds?? Can't imagine why I thought that...

We have gay bars HERE.

Are you REALLY advocating for mass crowd poisoning to brought back? When you look in the mirror at your teeth, doesn't that tell you ANYTHING?? You wanna smoke DO IT ON YOUR OWN DUMBASS TIME. THE MARKET doesn't decide public health policy or we would have drive through opioid injectables.

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 9:23 AM

It's called a pharmacy, kitten.

Don't be naive.

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:11 PM

There are no “adults in the room”

Retired General John Kelly's background and experience are unusual for a White House Chief of Staff, but as it happens his final military assignment was as commander of American military forces in South America, Central America, and the Caribbean basin — basically perfect preparation for the crisis that happens to have struck Puerto Rico.

It’s of course entirely possible that things would be going even worse if Reince Priebus were still in charge, but on its face Kelly’s experience does not seem to be doing any good. And that should be a stake through the heart of the notion that some stable of “adults in the room” are going to save the country from having picked a spectacularly inappropriate choice to serve as chief executive.

The one thing we can say for sure is that it’s essentially inconceivable that the next objectively difficult crisis that Trump fumbles will be more in Kelly’s wheelhouse than a disaster requiring a military response in the Caribbean. We’re witnessing the Trump administration at peak performance and it’s appalling. Bismarck supposedly said that God has a special providence for fools, drunks, and the United States of America. If we’re lucky he’ll be proven right and nothing much else bad will happen for the next three years. If not, buckle your seatbelts.

www.vox.com/2017/10/1/16390006/puerto-rico-trump

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 11:50 PM

Well all we can hope for is that the Democrats fix their party and cast aside the vocal SJW minority and become a party of inclusion again instead of identity politics and they put forward a good candidate against Trump next time.

Trump would have lost to nearly any other Democrat that ran. No. Most people certainly were not with her.

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Tuesday, October 3, 2017 1:40 AM

Oh goody! I'm a registered democrat who's totally disgusted by the corrupt deep-state corporatocracy the party has become.




Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

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Tuesday, October 3, 2017 2:35 AM

I was going to skip this thread entirely, but seeing as I've been a registered Democrat since I was old enough to vote (that would make it ... ummm ... 45 years) and have voted Democrat almost exclusively my entire life, and am DEFINITELY left-of-center, I guess I belong here.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Wednesday, October 4, 2017 6:55 AM

I voted for a Democrat once, for President.
My only voting mistake.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2017 8:19 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I voted for a Democrat once, for President.
My only voting mistake.

And having been a nearly pure Republican, how do you feel about the Republicans' tax plan? I find their plan typical of their governing style:

After a year of work, Republicans have decided nothing on corporate tax reform.

Congress needs to say what it wants the corporate income tax rate to be, and if it wants that tax rate to be 20 percent and it wants to limit the amount by which the deficit increases, then it needs to spell out which loopholes get closed. Doing this in the context of a big, bipartisan deal with Democrats would be challenging, but Republicans would not need almost every Republican Congressman to vote for every specific provision.

But doing it in a Republican only, hyperpartisan process where they’re trying to pass a giant tax cut for rich people that no Democrats will vote for leaves Republicans no room for mistakes. Any industry that wants to save a loophole provision only needs to find three GOP senators — or two dozen House members — to save it. This is presumably why Republican leaders keep not naming names as they go through different iterations of their plan. But unless they find some way to actually reach agreement on the crucial topic of which loopholes, exactly, are being closed, there’s just no way for their tax plan to move ahead. To pass a bill, Republicans will need, at some point, to actually commit some words to paper and spell something out. They have had since Mitt Romney ran for President to write it down so they could pass it. But they haven't started writing.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/3/16400412/corporate-tax-refor
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, October 4, 2017 4:36 PM

Editorial from today's Houston Chronicle blasts ex-governor Rick Perry, now Energy Secretary
www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/Sins-of-oil-will-b
e-shouted-from-the-rooftops-12250744.php


. . . Battery costs are falling and renewable energy is becoming cheaper. China, Britain and France have plans to ban gasoline vehicles to help fight global warming. Following other automobile manufacturers, General Motors announced this week that it plans to phase out internal combustion cars and replace them with an electric future.

It doesn’t take a prophet to see that the writing’s on the wall. Houston is going to need all the help we can get as the world transitions to a clean energy future — but don’t expect it to come from Secretary of Energy Rick Perry.

The former governor of Texas has been focusing his efforts on a bizarre plan to subsidize the coal industry. Last week, he directed the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission to craft a new rule that gives extra compensation to power plants that can store 90 days worth of fuel on site, Bloomberg News reported. This regulation just so happens to specifically fit coal and nuclear plants. Wind turbines and solar panels can’t exactly store a stiff breeze or sunshine. Natural gas power plants rely on pipelines for fuel.

The rule’s stated premise is to reward resiliency — you want power plants ready to go during the worst disaster. It would also distort markets and hand out cash to an industry that simply can’t keep up with a world appropriately concerned about climate change and saturated with cheaper, cleaner natural gas.

“The proposal could essentially prevent coal and nuclear power plants from closing even if they’re not economic to run,” Catherine Traywick and Jim Polson wrote in Bloomberg. www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-29/perry-moves-to-aid-coal-nuc
lear-generators-with-pricing-rule


And if Perry really cares about resiliency, then why not encourage more pipelines in Texas fracking fields, or invest in battery storage research? Perhaps Perry’s Department of Energy could even direct some of those research dollars toward Houston, planting the seed money for a future-proof industry.

Because the big storm that Houston needs to prepare for isn’t just the next Hurricane Harvey — it’s an economic storm that threatens to sweep away a century built on oil and gas. Our entire economic model lacks the resiliency we’ll need to survive, and Perry finds himself conveniently positioned to both bolster natural gas as a clean fuel and keep Houston at the center of everything energy.

Instead, he’s giving government handouts to coal country. Looking at his agenda, you can’t help but feel like Perry has all but forgotten about Texas. And in our book, there’s no bigger sin.

It doesn’t take a prophet to see that the writing’s on the wall. Houston is going to need all the help we can get as the world transitions to a clean energy future — but don’t expect it to come from Secretary of Energy Rick Perry.

Trump promises to end the war on coal. "We will have clean coal, really clean coal." Yeah. Nobody can clean coal better than Trump.

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Thursday, October 5, 2017 12:11 AM

Nobody in an area that makes money off of oil is going to invest in battery storage technology for 2 reasons.

1. Let somebody else spend that money because we have a long and expensive path to go to make it something that is actually better for the environment when you consider what goes in to making them and what you have to do to dispose of them in the end. (Recharge times and battery life aren't the only important things to improve upon at all).

2. Whenever somebody successfully figures out everything in the first issue, it would make demand for their product fall sharply almost overnight.

A mythical Texas Democrat wouldn't support it either. Don't kid yourself.

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