CIA - get rid of those disloyal to "the President"

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GHOULMAN

Monday, November 15, 2004 8:37 PM

Scary news. Fascism goes from the top down people.

Purge ordered at CIA

Sources say White House has told new chief 'get rid' of staffers who were disloyal to president

By KNUT ROYCE
WASHINGTON BUREAU
"The agency is being purged on instructions from the White House," said a former senior CIA official who maintains close ties to both the agency and to the White House. "Goss was given instructions ... to get rid of those soft leakers and liberal Democrats. The CIA is looked on by the White House as a hotbed of liberals and people who have been obstructing the president's agenda."

Click here for the whole article!
http://www.nynewsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uscia144041967nov1
4,0,6971093.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-headlines

GHOULMAN

Monday, November 15, 2004 8:39 PM

Collin Powell is next.

SIGNYM

Monday, November 15, 2004 9:39 PM

Colin Powell resigned.

I have been telling folks at work and here on this board (Refer to the "BUsh and Rumsfeld approved torture policy" thread) that CIA staffers hate Bush. So do military commissioned officers who are NOT within *ss-kissing distance of the President, and so do State Department staff. The President still has that outing of Valerie Plame hanging over his head, which was treason committed by someone (according to the CIA) in the Old Executive Building. They know who the person is, but they're not saying. I think Bush wants to get those CIA ppl out before they bring up enough info to indict Cheney.

ALL HAIL THE NEW PRAETORIAN GUARD!!

BEENWITHAWARRIORWOMAN

Monday, November 15, 2004 10:41 PM

Yay! I want to go on record here before the FBI and Bush's CIA (what remains of it) saying that I love the secret police.

Tongue firmly in cheek,
BWaWW

SIGNYM

Tuesday, November 16, 2004 2:57 PM

Now, here is a PERFECT example of Republican fact-smithing, and the media's unblinking acceptance of facts and statments which contradict each other even within one para. David Ensor, the person who wrote this piece of cr*p for CNN, should hang his head in shame.

/ www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/15/cia.resignations/index.html

I'll condense the article where possible

Quote:
Top leaders of CIA's clandestine service resign
CNN Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Steven Kappes and Michael J. Sulick, the top leaders of the CIA's directorate of operations, resigned Monday morning, sources told CNN. The directorate of operations is the agency's clandestine service.

Kappes took over from James Pavitt, who left in August.

Deputy Director John McLaughlin, who ran the agency after Director George Tenet resigned earlier this year, announced his retirement Friday. He said he was leaving for personal reasons.

Michael Scheuer, the former head of the CIA's search for al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, quit Thursday.

Top Republican lawmakers (Frist) voiced support for new CIA Director Porter Goss on Sunday after the resignations.

"The aggressiveness with which we will continue to fight the war on terror for freedom and liberty and democracy throughout the world will not be affected in any way by any sort of personnel changes here or any sort of reorganization of the intelligence functions of entities here," said Frist, a Republican from Tennessee.

Sen. John McCain, an Arizona Republican, called the CIA "a dysfunctional agency, and in some ways a rogue agency" that needed to be reformed. He accused some CIA insiders of leaking information to damage President Bush politically in the months before the election. "Porter Goss is on the right track," McCain said on ABC's "This Week."

The CIA "is not providing the intelligence information necessary for the president to conduct the war on terror," he said.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican, said the CIA "failed this country" with incorrect assessments of Iraq's weapons programs before the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003.

"I'm not worried about hurting people's feelings," said Graham, a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee. "I want to stand behind those who work hard. But if you got it wrong, you need to be dealt with."

Republicans apparently can't admit to the real reasons for these regignations, so they use the shotgun approach, figuring if they lay out enough chaff (WMD/ politics/ ineffective anti-terrorism) the resignees will be discredited.

But Kappes, Sulick, Scheuer, and Pavit were organizationally not even near the WMD question, and McLaughlin's only screw up was that he didn't make the WMD case "convincing enough" for Bush! (Because the case wasn't too convincing to begin with, perhaps?

)

And Kappes, Sulick, Pavit, and McLaughlin have never publically criticized Bush or leaked politically damaging information, as far as I can tell. That honor belongs to Scheuer, who was frustrated with what he saw as ineffectiveness in hunting ObL. Kappes and Sulick in particular are seen as effective within their department (covert ops).

As usual, when the Republicans make a mistake they unfairly descredit those who leave. Unfortuantely, it sounds like some of the very best people resigned, leaving the agency to abrasive idealogues like Murray (Goss' aide and the immediate reason for many of these resignations). Which leaves the CIA even more likely to produce that data that W&Co think they need, whether it corresponds with facts on the ground.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, November 16, 2004 3:00 PM

Now that Condi is head of State, the purges will start there too. Many ppl don't know tis, but State and the CIA have very strong ties (hence the flap about Joe Wilson and Valeri Plame- Bush saw their cooperation as a conspiracy).

GHOULMAN

Tuesday, November 16, 2004 5:09 PM

Thanx for the info Signym! You are da shabazz!

It's frightening how the USA has fallen into recognizabley fascist actions so quickly. The actions of the White House are souly responsible for much of it but it's spooky how, like the Germans in the 1930s accepting Hitler, Americans don't even notice thier basic rights are gone. Right now a government agent can break into any American home without a warrent, a reason, or need, and this was shored up by GWB/Cheney last year thanks to the insanity of the Patriot Act.

How a law like the Patriot Act passes in the USA will be hisotrical debate for years to come. If we are allowed to of course.

It's telling that this is a "purge" of certain people in high positions of American patriotism. At no time, war or peace, has there ever been such a "pogrom" in American government. Not since McCarthy and he was just going after people who didn't exist. His ghost commies in the government rubbish.

America was a fascist state then and it took years of effort for sanity to prevail while thousands of lives were devastated and many lost. Murder wasn't unheard of. Today, people haven't even noticed.

Isn't it funny with all the technology available today people seem to be even more ignorant of the truth? Let me tell you a little story about brainwashing, wagging the dag, and advertising...

GHOULMAN

Tuesday, November 16, 2004 5:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Colin Powell resigned.

ALL HAIL THE NEW PRAETORIAN GUARD!!

Amazing... he just quits/gets fired. Just how much of a shit eater does one have to be? Let's see...

Colin stayed around to help an evil regime take over the US government. Then because he hates these evil pricks who ruined his career and made him lie to the entire world... he quits.

A no confidence vote.

Personally, Uncle Toms like Colin Powell don't impress me at all.

PIRATEJENNY

Tuesday, November 16, 2004 5:35 PM

Don't you mean get rid of those who disagree with the President....

PIRATEJENNY

Tuesday, November 16, 2004 5:41 PM

Quote:
Sen. John McCain, an Arizona Republican, called the CIA "a dysfunctional agency, and in some ways a rogue agency" that needed to be reformed. He accused some CIA insiders of leaking information to damage President Bush politically in the months before the election. "Porter Goss is on the right track," McCain said on ABC's "This Week."

Dick Cheny is on his last legs I wouldn't be surprised if he either resigned from his post or died...anyone else get the feeling that McCain is going to be ushered in as Vice President!!

I just get that feeling!!

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