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Poll Shows Americans' Massive Disapproval Of Both Parties: "Now It's Just An Oligarchy"

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Wednesday, July 19, 2017 12:10 AM

You can't even have a legitimate conversation with somebody who says that Obamacare was a roaring success. Even Bill and Hillary Clinton said it was seriously flawed.

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Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:41 AM

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What you're complaining about is your political party is not working. National parties that have won Congress and the White House have disbanded in the past. It is time for the GOP to disband:
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When new issues of nativism, prohibition, and anti-slavery burst on the scene in the mid-1850s, few looked to the quickly disintegrating Whig Party for answers. In the North most ex-Whigs joined the new Republican Party, and in the South, they flocked to a new short-lived American Party.

During the Lincoln Administration (1861–65), ex-Whigs dominated the Republican Party and enacted much of their American System. Later their Southern colleagues dominated the White response to Reconstruction. In the long run, America adopted Whiggish economic policies coupled with a Democratic strong presidency.

During the latter part of the American Civil War, and during the Reconstruction Era, many former Whigs tried to regroup in the South, calling themselves "Conservatives" and hoping to reconnect with the ex-Whigs in the North. These were merged into the Democratic Party in the South, but they continued to promote modernization policies such as large-scale railroad construction and the founding of public schools.

In today's discourse in American politics, the Whig Party is often cited as an example of a political party that lost its followers and its reason for being, as by the expression "going the way of the Whigs," a term referred to by Donald Critchlow in his book, The Conservative Ascendancy: How the GOP Right Made Political History. Critchlow points out that the application of the term by Republicans in the GOP of 1974 may have been a misnomer; the old Whig party enjoyed more political support before its demise than the GOP in the aftermath of Nixon's resignation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whig_Party_(United_States)#Decline


You are claiming that National Parties have disbanded while having majorities in both Chambers of Congress as well as the Oval Office?

Anit-Slavery was not a new issue in mid-19th Century. It was a hot topic at the time of Independence and Revolution, and integral to the forming of the Federacy. The Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution to prohibit permanent legalization of Slavery.

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Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:48 AM

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You can't even have a legitimate conversation with somebody who says that Obamacare was a roaring success. Even Bill and Hillary Clinton said it was seriously flawed.

Legitimate conversation.

That is such a worthy standard to uphold, a good yardstick to measure by. We should consider that more often.

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Wednesday, July 19, 2017 9:10 AM

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
You can't even have a legitimate conversation with somebody who says that Obamacare was a roaring success. Even Bill and Hillary Clinton said it was seriously flawed.

Legitimate conversation.

That is such a worthy standard to uphold, a good yardstick to measure by. We should consider that more often.





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Monday, March 28, 2022 7:18 PM

Biden’s job approval rating hits lowest point of his presidency as most Americans think the U.S. headed in the wrong direction

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/27/biden-job-approval-fall-to-lowest-poin
t-amid-russia-and-inflation-worry.html

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Monday, March 28, 2022 7:29 PM

The Democrats are about to be destroyed. It won't be long now.

Tick Tock.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

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Monday, March 28, 2022 9:49 PM

After that, will we have a one-Party rule? Because I think it would take about 10 years for most Americans to realize that etablishment RNC is no better than establishment DNC. Will Americans run back to the DNC, then? Or will they have the courage to consider something different?

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Monday, March 28, 2022 11:42 PM

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After that, will we have a one-Party rule? Because I think it would take about 10 years for most Americans to realize that etablishment RNC is no better than establishment DNC. Will Americans run back to the DNC, then? Or will they have the courage to consider something different?

No need.
The majority of American voters are centrist or conservative, where the Republicans straddle and Democrats avoid. That's why there was nobody to vote for in 2008, 2012.

So the majority can split, like into Conservative, Tea Party, Libertarian, Constitution, Reform, Taxpayers, without being single Party.

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Monday, July 4, 2022 1:34 PM

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The «Monthly Harvard-Harris Poll: June 2017» is the latest poll in that series, and it scientifically sampled 2,258 U.S. registered voters, of whom (as shown on page 30) 35% were «Democrat», 29% were «Republican», and 30% were «independent»). It indicates (page 24) that 37% «approve» and 63% «disapprove» of «the way the Republican Party is handling its job».

It also indicates (page 25) that 38% «approve», and 62% «disapprove», of «the way the Democratic Party is handling its job». So: despite there being 6% more self-described «Democrat»s than «Republican»s, there was only 1% more disapproval of the Republican Party than of the Democratic Party; and, this indicates that there was a substantial disapproval of «the Democratic Party» by Democratic voters (more disaffection by them for ‘their’ Party, than Republicans have for theirs).

The answers to other questions in the poll also help to provide an answer as to why this is so, and why the voting public don’t hold either Party in high regard — why America’s supposedly ‘democratic’ (small-«D») politics is currently a contest between uglies, with neither Party offering anything like what the U.S. voting public want their government to do (i.e., it fits what this scientific study found actually to control U.S. politics):

(Page 27) 41% think «President Trump should be impeached and removed from office», and 45% think «no action should be taken» against him.

(Page 28) 36% think «the investigations into Russia and President Trump» are «helping the country», and 64% think they’re «hurting the country».

(Page 39) Of listed U.S. government officials, the highest percentage-favorable ratings were: Bernie Sanders (52%), Mike Pence (47%), Donald Trump (45%), Hillary Clinton (39%), Paul Ryan (38%), Elizabeth Warren (37%), Jim Comey (36%), Robert Mueller (34%), Nancy Pelosi (31%), Jeff Sessions (28%), and Rex Tillerson (28%).

(Page 40) The highest percentage-unfavorable ratings were: Hillary Clinton (56%), Nancy Pelosi (51%), Donald Trump (50%), Paul Ryan (45%), Mitch McConnell (42%), Jeff Sessions (41%), Mike Pence (40%), Jared Kushner (39%), Bernie Sanders (38%), Jim Comey (36%), and Elizabeth Warren (36%).

(Page 72) 48% think «President Trump colluded with the Russians during the election over the hacking of the Democratic National Committee and John Podesta’s emails». 52% say «No» — Trump did not do that.

(Page 73) 54% say «associates of President Trump» did it; 46% say «No» to that.

(Page 74) 38% say «There is evidence» of such «collusion» by Trump; 62% say «No».

(Page 75) 54% say this is a «legitimate investigation»; 46% say it’s «fueled to create a cloud over the Trump administration».

(Page 79) 44% say «Keep the focus on the Russia investigation»; 56% say «Move on to other issues».

(Page 83) 73% say they are «concerned» that there has been «lost focus and energy by the administration and Congress because of the Russia investigation». 67% say they’re «concerned» about «future interference by Russia in U.S. elections».

(Page 95) 54% say «Yes» and 46% say «No» to «Do you think the so called ‘Deep State’ — the collection of intelligence agencies and holdover government workers from the Obama administration — is trying to unseat President Trump?»

(Page 96) When asked «Who do you think is more to blame for Hillary Clinton’s loss of the election?» 67% choose «Hillary Clinton and her campaign team for running a weak campaign» and 33% choose «Forces like the Russians, former FBI director Comey, and the Democratic National Committee not having reliable voter data».

(Page 124) 74% «Favor»

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