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THESOMNAMBULIST

Thursday, November 11, 2004 12:33 AM

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and that dream one which I forget what it was called now.

Would that be Restless? I just watched the commentary for that the other day. Brilliant.

That's the one Jewel. I love that episode.

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PHOENIXSHIP

Thursday, November 11, 2004 4:40 AM

I can't believe no one's gonna come out for Angel. It was a scrawny transplant from one of the best shows ever, and who would have thought???

Excellent writing, characters, acting. And talk about unfulfilled potential? It was cut down in the prime of life, just as the whole 12 year saga was wrapping up.

Yes, FF was killed by evil executives, but Angel really came into its own, had a beginning, middle and... no end.

"Why're you arguin' what's already been decided?"
Mal to Jayne, "Jaynestown"

PURPLEBELLY

Thursday, November 11, 2004 8:18 AM

OT heads up for Titan AE on alt.binaries.multimedia.divx, for anyone interested in the Apocrypha but don't tell Whedon I told you
EDIT: is Nederlands gesproken taal dubbed into Dutch

BROWNCOAT1

Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:33 PM

Definitely Firefly.

Though it did not have the long runs as Buffy & Angel, in the short time it was on the air, it touched all of us. I doubt that Buffy or Angel could have inspired the fierce loyalty that Firefly did in a brief 11 aired episodes.

The writing was excellent on the show. The direction was inspired. The chemistry of the cast was like nothing I have ever seen on television before or since.

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LURKER99

Monday, November 15, 2004 12:14 AM

Long time reader, first time poster -- please be patient if I make a mistake. I have been lurking since shortly after the show premiered (probably around the time Out of Gas aired, when I realized this was not just a good show, but something really special). I have gotten to know a lot of you! BTW, I figured out how to reply to a post, but how do you create a new one?

To stay on topic, I have never been more passionate about a TV show than Firefly! There are other good shows, but nothing else even comes come IMHO.

One thing that strikes me is all the different levels it operates on. Someone at work noticed how often I browse on my break (the black screen is a giveaway), and he jokingly calls me "Firefly". Well, another coworker overheard that and told us how much HE likes Firefly! What I found interesting is what he finds funny is quite different that what I do -- but that is the genius of the show.

What I also wanted to point out from this thread is after reading all that Joss Whedon has done, I looked him up on IMDB.com. I was interested to note he is listed with an uncredited appearance on the episde "The Message" during the funeral scene. I assume that refers to the final scene (unless there another I am missing). In any case, I cannot spot him. Has anyone else noticed that from IMDB.com or seen him in that scene?

Thanks, and I hope I am not rambling too much -- I thought it was about time I posted something.

Hey, free food!

SHINYSEVEN

Monday, November 15, 2004 1:26 AM

Even though I don't think there was any Firefly episode as all-around fabulous as Once More With Feeling, I'd have to put Firefly in Jossverse Win position, Buffy Place, Angel Show. I think both Buffy and Angel jumped the shark in their final seasons. (OK, Firefly probably would have if it got the chance, but it wasn't around long enough.)

There just isn't anybody on the other shows that I love as much as Simon, or anyone as interesting as Mal.

EMBERS

Monday, November 15, 2004 2:24 AM

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Definitely Firefly.
I doubt that Buffy or Angel could have inspired the fierce loyalty that Firefly did in a brief 11 aired episodes.

Well, that is a very good point, when Angel started I tried 3 episodes and then stopped watching it...
I only restarted because I heard that there were cross-overs I was missing out on, and then I really did end up getting into the show....

And Buffy's first season (about the same number as the half season Firefly was given) was very thin, if that had been all we had to judge on, then I don't think any of us would have been big Buffy fans.

So while I still hold that Joss reached amazing heights with OMWF and Hush and Restless and The Body...
He really showed his brilliance right off the bat in the wonderful characters and story line of Firefly

DAIKATH

Monday, November 15, 2004 9:32 AM

Id say Firefly.

I became a Buffy and Joss fan after seeying Suprise and had to tape every single ep of the show after I'd seen Becoming (I really think they are the dramatic masterpieces of our time).

However, there is something about Firefly, Buffy never quite got my attention again when season 4 started, I mean I still watched every episode, but I never quite got the urge to watch every ep 5 times :) and Angel only got my attention really during season 5.

GROUNDED

Monday, November 15, 2004 9:54 AM

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Definitely Firefly.
I doubt that Buffy or Angel could have inspired the fierce loyalty that Firefly did in a brief 11 aired episodes.

Well, that is a very good point, when Angel started I tried 3 episodes and then stopped watching it...
I only restarted because I heard that there were cross-overs I was missing out on, and then I really did end up getting into the show....

And Buffy's first season (about the same number as the half season Firefly was given) was very thin, if that had been all we had to judge on, then I don't think any of us would have been big Buffy fans.

So while I still hold that Joss reached amazing heights with OMWF and Hush and Restless and The Body...
He really showed his brilliance right off the bat in the wonderful characters and story line of Firefly

Are you kidding me? S1 thin? Granted there were lots of MOTW episodes but the dialogue and character interaction were superb, despite the low budget - most likely due to the high levels of Joss involvement. Hush, OMWF, Restless and The Body were all good (although personally I think all but Restless are way over-rated) but if you look over years 4, 5 and 6 as a whole there was very little in the same league. If you look back on the S2-3 period practically every second episode was a classic...

...and that's why I have to go with Angel. Joss had found his footing with Buffy, and with the Angel premise he and David Greenwalt had come up with something a lot more fundamentally interesting than the Buffy setup. For three years they served up classic after classic, faltering a little in the final 2 seasons before wrapping things up quite beautifully.

Firefly was, for the most part, uniformly good, but there just isn't enough of it to compare.

MAUGWAI

Monday, November 15, 2004 2:25 PM

I love Buffy. I love Firefly and Angel, too, but man do I love Buffy.

Each episode of Buffy has a theme. And the season has a theme. And the show has a theme. And all the themes play off each other until you can get dizzy trying to make all the connections and finding the meaning of it all. And the acting is brilliant. Bloody brilliant.

"Dear diary, today I was pompous and my sister was crazy."

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