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George R. R. Martin is mourning for America

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Saturday, November 13, 2004 1:08 AM

I agree with you Slackmaster, it's much better for the war to be abroad than at home. I doubt anyone would dispute you that, but don't you think we shouldn't have dulled our military might on the lesser target? (Tell me I'm wrong in thinking the majority of our might is in Iraq.) We (American public) want the target who's responsible for 9/11, not the target who also happens to be a target. Why aren't you military types getting in the face of your commanders about that?

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Saturday, November 13, 2004 4:08 PM

Wow! I did not expect this great a response. Thanks to all of you and I hope you had a great Veteran's day also. Agree with my statements or not each and every one of us should thank a Veteran for our right to express our views.

For ManiacNumberOne, do you really believe we have dulled our military might? Your statement could not be farther from the truth. There are two distinct categories that need to be looked at when responding to your allegation of a dulled military might.

1. Capability; our forces are more trained now than ever before. The already honed active component, the best fighting force the world has ever seen is now even sharper. The one area that Combatant Commanders had expressed concern in was the ability to fight in a joint operation, which is no longer a concern. Our reserve forces are also sharpened by these deployments; with the exception of a few countries our reserve forces are equal and most times better than other countries active forces.

2. Strategic capability; for the answer to this all you need to do is look at a map of the region. A cynical person would use our strategic positioning as an indicator to the actual reason we invaded Afghanistan and Iraq.

But the point is moot because you say

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We (American public) want the target who's responsible for 9/11,
9/11 is a product of countries that condone and sponsor terrorism, of which Iraq is most definitely one. Just ask the mothers of suicide bombers in Palestine who received 25, 000 dollars for raising a terrorist who killed civilians in Israel.

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Saturday, November 13, 2004 6:37 PM

Just so you know, I thanked my dad for being a veteran, also two of my brothers, a nephew and a brother-in-law.

I do indeed believe that America has dulled it's military might. You prolly misunderstood what I meant when I said that. Capability of our forces has very little to do with them getting dulled. Our forces in Afghanistan have been stymied, due to lack of military support and poor leadership. Our leaders are spreading our forces too thin around the world, leaving us not as capable to deal with other threats. I didn't mean that we are not the best fighting force in the world, nor that we are better trained than we used to be. That is not in dispute.

To make an analogy, consider our terrorist-fighting forces to be the men on a chess board. The 9/11 terrorists are the opposing side. You should want to spend your valuable pieces(our army) on pieces that will have more value. Our forces are attacking a minor pawn or perhaps a knight far away from the king and queen. Iraq is that minor pawn. So when I say we've dulled our military might, I mean it. The American people are not an endless reserve of soldiers waiting to happen.

You may believe that the 9/11 terrorists are sitting in Iraq, but it's not so. Are you aware of the nationalities of the terrorists? I'll provide a link below with all the terorist identities and nationalities that shows that none of the terrorists were Iraqi. They were saudi's and egyptian's.

http://www.fairus.org/ImmigrationIssueCenters/ImmigrationIssueCenters.
cfm?ID=1205&c=14


Iraq wasn't a threat to America until we went in there. Bush made Iraq into the twin-sized bed of terrorists that it now is.

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Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:44 PM

I am also a soldier, and I write this from Afghanistan. I disagree with Bush being a Stark though, he's more like a Lanister to me, sorry but Bush is the kingslayer as far as I'm concerned. I dont much like Kerry either. I also don't like it when soldiers use there postion to state a political opinion, but since one "joe" has put his 2 cents in then here's mine.

I also fail to see how we are winning the war on terror, our track records on the war on (insert noun here) has never been good, anyone been keeping track on how well our war on drugs is going? Wars on nouns generaly end up face first in the dirt.



SGT Nichols US Army

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Wednesday, November 17, 2004 11:54 PM

I was talking about this with Tash the other night. We agreed, I think, that Bush is like a Lannister, but also like a Stark. It depends upon how you look at them, and which particular Stark you're talking about. Bush definitely isn't Ned Stark, bu he has similarities to Robb. Think about what Robb has done, He has waged wars far away from home, he has made alliances and also enemies in the process, and he has lost his base of support here at home. Much like Robb Stark who went off fighting wars abroad and lost Winterfell. Bush is a twisted mix of Robb and Jamie, perhaps even Lord Tywin.

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Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:57 AM

George W. makes me think more of a Theon Greyjoy, the ne'er-do-well son of a cold powerbroker. Winterfell is the Texas he has adopted as his "base." I don't think that Kerry would really be much of a player in Westeros, prolly some Highgarden lord contesting for the throne after all the Baratheons and the Lanisters are dead. I think the closest match for this world is Robert Baratheon and Bill Clinton, if Robert had kept his edge. I don't think any of these jokers have the moral integrity to put them in the Stark line. Ned knew that a Stark's place is at Winterfell, Rob's a child of 15 out of his depth. If only America had a Tyreon.

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Saturday, March 19, 2022 11:42 PM

Peter Dinklage ‘Felt Bad’ After Making a Confession to George R. R. Martin About His Books: ‘He Looked a Little Hurt’

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Saturday, March 19, 2022 11:44 PM

Somebody should ask Pete if he felt bad about getting 7 midgets fired from a Disney production after a woke Tweet.

Then if he says that he did, they should ask him if his guilt struck him before or after Cyrano flopped.

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