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Is Trump Nuts?

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Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:17 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

Now I know he was trolling the religion of Islam and their barbaric ideologies.

Good.

Trump also trolls the concept of "loyalty".



Took you almost a whole week to come up with that one, huh?

I take it Trump must be back from his vacation?

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Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:05 AM

The embodiment of the "ugly American."

He's an embarrassment to anyone with an IQ over 90.

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Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:41 AM

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He's an embarrassment to anyone with an IQ over 90.
Did you know that an IQ of 90 is well within the normal range? The normal range's 100 plus or minus one standard deviation (a statistical term in case you don't understand the phrase), or +/- 15. If you wanted to imply that even stupid people are embarrassed by Trump, you'd have to go lower.




Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

Now I know he was trolling the religion of Islam and their barbaric ideologies.

Good.

Trump also trolls the concept of "loyalty".



Took you almost a whole week to come up with that one, huh?

I take it Trump must be back from his vacation?

Just for you, 6StringJoker, I found another loyalty story, also today as was the first story. Since you're betting Trump will "help" you get work, it should concern you that he does not reciprocate loyalty to those who are loyal to him. I'm not sure how to classify that. Is Trump disloyal?, or does he misunderstand loyalty?, or is he nuts? or simply a bad manager? Whichever it is would explain the chaos that surrounds Trump when he deals with subordinates.

There is this storyline about Donald Trump, one longtime Trump watcher says, that he's a loyal guy. That he sticks with his old friends and defends them and supports them. "You have it all wrong," he says. "Trump is not loyal, except to his family. He can be solicitous and ingratiating. But if there's a moment you are not useful, forget it, you're done. No matter what you have done for him." Consider: Rudy Giuliani, Paul Manafort, Chris Christie.

And one more thing to keep in mind about the President, adds an ally. He's a disciple of Roy Cohn, the take-no-prisoners New York attorney. "When you're in trouble, you double down, triple down and quadruple down. At the end of the day," he says of Trump, "it's the only way to fight he knows."

www.cnn.com/2017/05/30/opinions/trump-home-all-alone-borger/index.html

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Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:51 AM

meh

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Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:14 AM

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
meh

I'll try harder to get your attention with Trump’s self-inflicted disaster zone

It’s now little-remembered, but a signature moment of the Trump era came back on January 11 when, shortly before Inauguration Day, Trump tweeted that in his opinion, the American intelligence services were engaged in conduct similar to the Nazi Gestapo.

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Intelligence agencies should never have allowed this fake news to "leak" into the public. One last shot at me. Are we living in Nazi Germany?
6:48 AM - 11 Jan 2017
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/819164172781060096

This is the kind of thing where, if you’d run it by a halfway competent person, you’d have gotten the advice not to say it. For one thing, the comparison is deeply stupid. It’s also incredibly offensive to Holocaust victims. From a pragmatic standpoint, the even worse thing is that it’s incredibly offensive to the professional staff of the American intelligence community, a group that you normally don’t alienate for no reason whatsoever.

It’s also a bit of a Streisand effect situation, where the president-elect’s decision to go nuclear over the story draws more attention to it.

This has been Trump time after time, day after day since taking office. Whether it’s churlish refusing to reiterate America’s commitment to Article 5 of NATO after Trump’s own staff briefed American media that he would do so, or firing FBI Director James Comey on a thin pretext that he contradicted days later in an interview with NBC News’s Lester Holt, Trump has been impulsive and self-destructive.

Trump’s existing team is fully competent to warn him off this behavior. The problem is Trump doesn’t want to listen.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/30/15711588/michael-dubke-trump

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:42 AM

meh

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Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:20 PM


I enjoyed reading this:

All the times Robert De Niro blasted Donald Trump: 'He's totally nuts'
http://ew.com/news/2017/05/30/donald-trump-robert-de-niro-insults/



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I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

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Wednesday, May 31, 2017 8:19 PM

My problem is that I don't take anybody seriously who has problem with Trump that thought that Obama was a good president.


That is why I wish Bytemate would post more here. I'm much more inclined to listen to her thoughts on Trump than I ever would Robert DeNiro or Second or J0.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2017 9:06 PM

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
My problem is that I don't take anybody seriously who has problem with Trump that thought that Obama was a good president.

Has anyone told Trump that he is responsible for running the government? There was no question that Obama was running the government, for better or worse.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/6/15740376/trump-government-ali
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On Monday, Trump tweeted something strangely irresponsible: The Justice Dept. should have stayed with the original Travel Ban, not the watered down, politically correct version they submitted to the Supreme Court.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/871675245043888128

You would think, reading this missive, that Trump was still a candidate for president, or a New York billionaire raging against the Obama administration. There is a powerlessness in his formulation, an impotent anger at the distant, impersonal bureaucracy he’s criticizing.

But “the Justice Dept.” is really Trump’s Justice Department. It is run by a man Trump handpicked to lead it. The revised travel ban — which was an effort to save Trump’s policy from total defeat before the Supreme Court — was crafted with the input of the White House, and only released after Trump’s top advisers cleared it.

All of which makes Trump’s tweet a very peculiar artifact. If Trump didn’t want the revised travel ban released, why was it released? Isn’t he the boss? Is he going to fire Attorney General Jeff Sessions? Or ask Sessions to fire someone else? And what kind of leader acts like this, litigating frustrations in public and dodging responsibility for the actions of the organization he runs?

Trump sees ‘the Trump administration’ as himself, his Twitter account, Jared and Ivanka, and a few close staffers at the White House. He thinks of everyone else as ‘the government’: some force that does not answer to him, and that he does not manage in a conventional sense.

This was predictable. Trump was never the omnicompetent CEO he played on television. His core business was licensing his name out to other people who actually ran businesses. He’s a genius marketer, not a genius manager. The “Trump” brand appeared on steaks, on vodka, on eyeglasses, on lamps, and on fragrances, to name just a few. But he didn’t run those companies or manage the people who did. He didn’t take responsibility for those products or those teams. Why did Trump not take responsibility?

Trump was so successful as a marketer in part because he was unusually disinterested in the companies he endorsed. One reason athletes and celebrities don’t sell their brands more widely is it’s hard to exert quality control over too many products. Trump didn’t care about the quality of the products he backed, and that let him cash a check from many, many more of them.

Among the many problems with Trump’s presidency is he appears to be treating it much as he treated his branding empire. He runs his White House, and feels responsibility for certain decisions he makes personally — like pulling out of the Paris agreement, or sending cruise missiles to Syria. But the further a decision gets from his core interests and nearby staffers, the less responsibility he feels for it.

This is the difference between a CEO and a brand licenser. Trump doesn’t look at the Justice Department and see Trump’s Justice Department. He looks at the Justice Department and sees the Trump-branded Justice Department — his name is in the lobby, but no one could fairly hold him accountable for everything that happens in the building.

If this doesn’t sound like the way good chief executives run their organizations, it’s because it’s not. It has long been a trope in American politics that the government needs to be run more like a business, but no board of directors would allow a business to be run like this.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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