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Is Trump Nuts?

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THGRRI

Monday, May 22, 2017 11:22 PM

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SIGNYM

Monday, May 22, 2017 11:32 PM

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~~1kiki's~~ THUGR'S a liar and a troll. The proof of this always finds a way to establish itself. In this case, it's in ~~her~~ it's denials that there is evidence of ~~Trumps~~ the security state acting improperly. In ~~her~~ it's denials of ~~Russia interfering in our elections~~ the deep state interfering with our elected President

Fixed it for you.

Now go cry how I "misquoted" you and make a bigger ass of yourself

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.

SIGNYM

Monday, May 22, 2017 11:35 PM

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I coud spend an entire day asking Hannity or O'Rielly or any other Trump supporter to explain every individual Russian connection fact and they'd still be spouting 'zero evidens'.

That's a great idea, JO! I think you should start right now. Don't forget to include the evidence!

Put up, or shut up.

Somehow, I doubt you'll do either.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.

SIGNYM

Monday, May 22, 2017 11:44 PM

Here, BTW, another instance of JO in his infinite fatuousness and self-importance, refusing to back up any of his so-called "information"

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There are only a few people Trump needs to please: two are the Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority leader. - SECOND

He only needz to pleez Putin. If you take that perspectiv, everything he duz makes sens. Anything that makes the GoPs happy iz only insidental to serving Putin. - JO000

JO, does Putin have "the" vote that guarantees impeachment?
No?
Is Putin on the NYT/ WaPo/ CNN/ MSNBC editorial Board?
No?
Does he have moles in the FBI?
No?
So tell me, HOW does Putin manage to save Trump's ass?
I'm not being sarcastic, I expect a serious and thoughtful answer. One which I'm afraid you will refuse to provide.- SIGNY

JO, unless you make a SERIOUS effort to reform yourself, that turd of a campaign that you keep polishing is doomed to failure. Because if you were the last man on earth, I'd write Mickey Mouse onto the ballot.

JO753

Monday, May 22, 2017 11:45 PM

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Put up, or shut up.

For clarity, I'll start a new topic.

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SIGNYM

Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:01 AM

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Put up, or shut up.- SIGNY

For clarity, I'll start a new topic. _JO

Excellent! I look forward to it.

Now, also for clarity, will you be attempting to show that the Trump campaign had "contacts" with Russia?

That Russia "hacked" our elections?

Or that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia?

Or is colluding with Russia now?

Or will you be simply showing that the Trump administration had 'contacts' with Russia? (which BTW I would expect to occur as part of a normal Presidency.)

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.

SECOND

Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:50 AM

Trump is so crazy he handed the smoking gun to Lester Holt on TV
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/22/15655296/impeach-trump

Watergate is the template Trump was following without even realizing what he had done.

Watergate began with clear evidence of what was clearly a crime — the break-in at Democratic National Committee headquarters — which then led to an investigation of who was involved, which led, eventually, to the discovery of a secret taping system inside the Oval Office. The quest to get the contents of the tape revealed to the public then became its own drama.

But when the tapes were finally heard they contained a “smoking gun” — clear evidence that Nixon had tried to use the powers of his office to stymie an FBI investigation. In the crucial conversation, Nixon told his chief of staff, H.R. Haldeman, to call in the CIA and tell them, “The president believes that [the investigation] is going to open the whole Bay of Pigs thing up again. And, ah, because these people are plugging for, for keeps, and that they should call the FBI in and say that we wish for the country, don’t go any further into this case, period!”

There it was. The question had been whether Nixon himself was engaged in the Watergate cover-up. That tape proved he was. And that was it. The Watergate saga took a long time, but two days after the tape was released, Republican congressional leaders went to the White House to tell Nixon it was over. Two days after that, Nixon resigned.

In Trump’s case, there’s no need for extensive litigation over a secret tape because the smoking gun already aired in the form of an interview with NBC News’s Lester Holt, where Trump explained his reasons for firing Comey. Though his White House had said Comey was fired after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein wrote a memo concluding Comey’s handling of the Clinton email case was indefensible, Trump, in a moment of admirable candor, explained that this wasn’t true.

“In fact when I decided to just do it, I said to myself,” Trump told Holt, “‘You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story, it’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should have won.”

A contemporaneous memo from Comey further confirms that Trump specifically asked him to stop investigating former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn. Rosenstein confirmed Thursday to members of the United States Senate that Trump had already made up his mind to fire Comey before Rosenstein wrote the memo that the White House later briefly claimed was the basis for Comey’s firing. Here, then, is the timeline, which is now publicly known, and widely accepted:

In February, President Trump met with FBI Director James Comey and asked Comey to drop investigations of Michael Flynn and tell the public that Trump’s ties to Russia were not under investigation. Trump also repeatedly denounced the whole idea of an investigation in public statements and tweets.
In March, Comey clarified to Congress and the public that a very real, very serious, ongoing investigation was underway.
In April, Trump fired Comey. He put out an implausible pretext for the firing, and then quickly got bored with the thin deception and explained on national television that he really fired Comey because he was frustrated about the Russia situation.

That’s the entirety of the case. Trump was meddling with an FBI investigation, he fired the FBI director when he wouldn’t go along with it, then he lied about why he’d fired the FBI director, and then later he confessed the truth. That the facts have emerged so quickly is disorienting, but it shouldn’t blind us to the basic reality that the whole saga has played out. And in terms of Trump’s basic unfitness to continue in office, there is little need for further investigation.

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Put up, or shut up.- SIGNY

For clarity, I'll start a new topic. _JO
Excellent! I look forward to it.

Now, also for clarity, will you be attempting to show that the Trump campaign ha

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SIGNYM

Tuesday, May 23, 2017 3:45 AM

Meh, you're making a mountain out of a molehill. The situation with Nixon was far different - not only had a demonstrable crime been committed (as opposed to the current situation where it's even hard to get a bead on what, or who, is supposedly being investigated) Nixon did so much more.

Let me outline for you what Nixon's staff - and Nixon himself - had done:

The Committee to Re-elect the President (CRP) had funded the Watergate burglars. The people involved in handling the CRP slush fund included Jeb Magruder and Maurice Stans (CRP members), and John Mitchell (while serving as Attorney General). Those involved in the cover-up were top aides Haldeman and Ehrlichman, and White House Counsel John Dean, who Nixon fired in attempt to deflect blame. Attorney General Kleindienst resigned. Nixon himself was involved in the cover-up

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It's impossible to list all the varied ways the White House attempted to impair investigations from the grand jury, from the special Senate committee eventually formed to deal with the scandal, and from the independent counsel appointed to investigate the affair. But here are a few:

* Within days of the break-in, Nixon decided to ask the CIA to disrupt the FBI's investigation of the incident, on the grounds that it concerned matters of national security; the CIA, however, resisted the order.

* Throughout the FBI's early investigation, White House counsel Dean sat in on interviews with witnesses and got regular updates from Gray.

* The White House paid hush money to co-conspirators, including $75,000 to Hunt personally; Nixon was caught on tape discussing the arrangements with Dean.

* Nixon tried, to no avail, to have aides manufacture dictatape evidence to give to Judge Sirica.

* Nixon implied to Ehrlichman that they should prevent Dean from continuing to cooperate with investigators by offering him clemency in exchange for keeping his mouth shut.

* Ehrlichman ordered Colson to offer clemency to Hunt in exchange for silence.

SECOND, this is not Watergate! This is more like the incessant investigation into Bill Clinton's sex life. I'm as fed up with your current obsessive behavior as I was with the GOP's endless, pointless investigations into irrelevant events. Please stop trying to force your big fat theory onto the tiny set of facts.

The investigation is STILL underway, although at this point I sure would like to know what, exactly, in being investigated because the goal seems to be wandering all over the place.

But I think it's nice of you to try and save JO from having to follow thru on his promise.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.

THGRRI

Tuesday, May 23, 2017 3:58 AM

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~~1kiki's~~ THUGR'S a liar and a troll. The proof of this always finds a way to establish itself. In this case, it's in ~~her~~ it's denials that there is evidence of ~~Trumps~~ the security state acting improperly. In ~~her~~ it's denials of ~~Russia interfering in our elections~~ the deep state interfering with our elected President
Fixed it for you.

Now go cry how I "misquoted" you and make a bigger ass of yourself

You did misquote me. You do it all the time. Just as you misquote others here and reported news stories. It's what you do as a troll. Any time facts are posted you have to challenge them.

Quoting others is supposed to represent exactly what someone else said. Just as it's said there is no honor among thieves, there is none amongst trolls comrade.

And your defense of Trump is funny · comical · humorous · droll · jocular · hilarious · amusing · diverting · entertaining · jokey · wacky · waggish · side-splitting · rib-tickling .

OONJERAH

Tuesday, May 23, 2017 4:05 AM

Is Trump Nuts?

L'infant Terrible: "an incorrigible child, as one whose behavior
is embarrassing."

Doesn't say whether the "child" is aware of & could correct
his behavior. If he is, in fact, an adult in years, then No;
he probably can't correct himself.

The much more mind boggling thing is: all the claim-to-be-rational
adults who support his act.

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I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.