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Is Trump Nuts?

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Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:51 PM

Trump is a product of America’s culture of impunity for the rich

The entire culture of civil fines and settlements without admission of wrongdoing that dominates American business regulation is fundamentally odd. If the rules say you can’t keep your casino afloat with an unapproved loan and you respond to that by getting a shady secret unapproved loan to keep your casino afloat, shouldn’t you be out of the casino game? If compliance with money laundering rules is mandatory and you don’t comply, shouldn’t you be shut down?

Any given case obviously presents its nuances, and not every case can be taken to the mattresses. But the settlement racket too easily lets regulators feel like they’re putting points on the board even while criminals continue to roam the streets, having learned the lesson that they’re untouchable. That, fundamentally, is Trump’s problem. Not that he can’t control himself, but that he’s been taught he doesn’t have to.

Trump is typical, rather than unusual, in enjoying this kind of slap-on-the-wrist approach to white-collar crime — just ask the executives whose banks reached big-ticket settlements with the Obama Justice Department all while seeing share prices and compensation packages rise, with nobody’s business ruined and no individuals held legally responsible.

He stands out from the pack, essentially, in how deeply he embraces the ethic of impunity, bragging about it to Billy Bush or screwing over small-time contractors as a routine business practice.

None of this is the action of an impulsive toddler or of a senile old man. It is the calculation of a veteran — and rather cunning — operator who has gotten far in life by relying on money, connections, and lawbreaking to keep him afloat.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/18/15654566/trump-toddler

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Thursday, May 18, 2017 8:06 PM

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I'm pretty sure that this is a picture of you during the Vietnam war Second, so don't be all "holier than thou" about it now...

The resurrection of this myth of the spat-upon veteran by the Bush administration during subsequent Gulf War efforts was a way of silencing public dissent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spitting_Image



I wasn't there. I'll give it 50/50 that it actually happened or didn't, just like I pretty much give everything else.

That is one of the problems of colleges today though, and the twisted ultra SJW libtard mentality and the rise of social media websites where young popular youtubers yell "Fuck Trump" on a daily basis when they aren't setting fires on the streets or college campuses.

If the spitting image is nothing but a hoax, things like these make them more believable today.

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Thursday, May 18, 2017 8:09 PM

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Donald Trump Said Saudi Arabia Was Behind 9/11. Now He’s Going There on His First Foreign Trip.

As a presidential candidate, he spent much of the election campaign needling, critiquing, denouncing and even threatening the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Yet as president, he is making his first foreign visit this weekend to … the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Trump, to put it mildly, is no stranger to the shameless U-turn. Still, the Trump Turnabout on Saudi Arabia is a true sight to behold.

Twice in a single day, Trump accused Saudi Arabia of being behind the 9/11 attacks. “Who blew up the World Trade Center?” Trump asked his pals at Fox and Friends on the morning of February 17, 2016. “It wasn’t the Iraqis, it was Saudi — take a look at Saudi Arabia, open the documents.”

At a campaign event in South Carolina later that day, he again cited “secret papers” that could prove it was “the Saudis” who were in fact responsible for the attacks on 9/11. “It wasn’t the Iraqis that knocked down the World Trade Center … because they have papers in there that are very secret, you may find it’s the Saudis, okay?”

https://theintercept.com/2017/05/18/donald-trump-said-saudi-arabia-was
-behind-911-now-hes-going-there-on-his-first-foreign-trip
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I think any judgement about this should be reserved until we actually know what the trip is about. I think it's safe to say that we won't have pictures of Trump bowing before foreign leaders like Obama did.

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Friday, May 19, 2017 5:23 PM

Alan I. Baron, who has served as special counsel to the House in impeachment proceedings of four federal judges said, while Trump maintains his first amendment rights to free speech, most attorneys would strongly advise their clients against speaking about an ongoing case involving them or their associates.

“He would be a difficult client to serve,” Baron said. “If I’m representing somebody, you don’t say anything to anybody without talking to me first. That’s my first rule. If you can’t control yourself, just tell me where to send the flowers.”

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Friday, May 19, 2017 6:06 PM

Yep... everybody working for Trump probably would have had him handle the Access Hollywood tape differently too.

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Saturday, May 20, 2017 7:29 PM

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Yep... everybody working for Trump probably would have had him handle the Access Hollywood tape differently too.

Trump can't handle adversity. He loses his pose and begins ranting.

That is a problem with Trump's personal communication style. One White House source told CNN, "It can be difficult to advise the President effectively given his seemingly short attention span and propensity to be easily distracted. You can't say what not to say, because that will then be one of the first things he'll say."
www.cnn.com/2017/05/19/politics/hr-mcmaster-donald-trump-foreign-trip-
steven-bannon/index.html



What Trump’s Officials Are Saying
www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/19/trump-officials-he-looks-mor
e-and-more-like-a-complete-moron


The Daily Beast has talked to a bunch of folks close to Donald Trump, and as usual they can't help themselves:

“Okay, he fired Comey,” the official conceded. “With a semi-competent comms operation, that would blow over in 24 hours. And that’s the worst part: he has a competent comms staff. But they can’t do their jobs because he keeps running his mouth.”

....Trump’s repeated media missteps have frustrated even longtime supporters. “Every day he looks more and more like a complete moron,” said one senior administration official who also worked on Trump’s campaign. “I can’t see Trump resigning or even being impeached, but at this point I wish he’d grow a brain and be the man that he sold himself as on the campaign.”

Asked whether an administration staff change-up would ameliorate this latest crisis, a Republican source formerly involved with a pro-Trump political group told The Daily Beast, “yes, if it comes with a frontal lobotomy for Trump.”

Remember, these are people who are on Team Trump.

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Saturday, May 20, 2017 8:40 PM

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

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With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special counsel appointed!
7:07 AM - 18 May 2017

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/865207118785372160

I am so hoping that Trump sends written orders to his Attorney General and his temporary head of the FBI to open investigations into the crimes of Hillary and Obama. That won't get Trump into any more trouble than sending written orders to the media and the CIA to, say, waterboard confessions from his political enemies.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, May 20, 2017 8:56 PM

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Yep... everybody working for Trump probably would have had him handle the Access Hollywood tape differently too.

Trump can't handle adversity. He loses his pose and begins ranting.

That is a problem with Trump's personal communication style. One White House source told CNN, "It can be difficult to advise the President effectively given his seemingly short attention span and propensity to be easily distracted. You can't say what not to say, because that will then be one of the first things he'll say."
www.cnn.com/2017/05/19/politics/hr-mcmaster-donald-trump-foreign-trip-
steven-bannon/index.html



What Trump’s Officials Are Saying
www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/19/trump-officials-he-looks-mor
e-and-more-like-a-complete-moron


The Daily Beast has talked to a bunch of folks close to Donald Trump, and as usual they can't help themselves:

“Okay, he fired Comey,” the official conceded. “With a semi-competent comms operation, that would blow over in 24 hours. And that’s the worst part: he has a competent comms staff. But they can’t do their jobs because he keeps running his mouth.”

....Trump’s repeated media missteps have frustrated even longtime supporters. “Every day he looks more and more like a complete moron,” said one senior administration official who also worked on Trump’s campaign. “I can’t see Trump resigning or even being impeached, but at this point I wish he’d grow a brain and be the man that he sold himself as on the campaign.”

Asked whether an administration staff change-up would ameliorate this latest crisis, a Republican source formerly involved with a pro-Trump political group told The Daily Beast, “yes, if it comes with a frontal lobotomy for Trump.”

Remember, these are people who are on Team Trump.



I'm personally loving all of this. The big shots in politics on both sides are pissing their pants right now because they don't know what to think or even if they'll have a job tomorrow.

It's nice seeing them get a taste of what most of us have at least had to go through once in our lives when the company we worked for was going out of business or jobs were being slashed and sent overseas.

I don't think there really is a "Team Trump".

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Sunday, May 21, 2017 2:09 AM

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

I'm personally loving all of this. The big shots in politics on both sides are pissing their pants right now because they don't know what to think or even if they'll have a job tomorrow.

It's nice seeing them get a taste of what most of us have at least had to go through once in our lives when the company we worked for was going out of business or jobs were being slashed and sent overseas.

I don't think there really is a "Team Trump".

I believe that the appointment of special counsel Robert Mueller is actually great news for Trump in the short and medium term. If he plays it right, he can do what Bill Clinton did, which is to say, ‘I want to talk about the investigation, but we have to wait and see what the investigators come up with.’ That would give Trump some breathing room.

The problem, of course, is that Trump is going to be Trump. He will probably fire Mueller and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who appointed Mueller, which will pour more gasoline on the fire that is burning Trump at the stake. He is already tweeted about being burned at the stake in a witch hunt.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, May 21, 2017 3:09 AM

Trump doesn't actually feel any fire. He's writing that for the pro-Trump nuts that read all of his tweets and take them at face value. He's probably writing that for all of the Anti-Trump nuts that read all of his tweets and take them at face value too.

He's the "Howard Stern" of the Presidency. Whether you love him or hate him, everybody is paying attention.

Just remember that the insanity of the Left over the last 8 years and the option of Hillary as the other candidate is what got him elected. It's kind of a "you asked for it, you got it" scenario.

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