Aetna to pull out of ObamaCare ENTIRELY by 2018
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May 11, 2017 7:15 p.m. ET
For all the media think pieces about the nature of truth in the Trump era, Democrats have their own alternative facts about ObamaCare. To undermine the GOP case for repeal and replace, they claim the entitlement is working beautifully. But then what about the latest insurance giant to dump its ObamaCare ballast?
Aetna said on Wednesday that it will withdraw individual market plans in Nebraska and Delaware, meaning it will participate in zero exchanges in 2018 .
Suckers.
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Originally posted by G:
I don't trust an Insurance giant's word on anything. Those f*ckers have been raising rates every quarter since before the ACA. THEY are the real problem and why no matter Dems or Reps, neither will ever fix our health care. Too many jobs and too much power to cut them out of the chain I suppose. They are actually proving how powerful they are by threatening to pull out - now the reps are using that as leverage. More scare tactics - sh*tty people.
First of all, THEY didn't raise rates, the ACA forced them to raise rates. With insane conditions and mandates to carry this but not that sort of coverage, limiting free choice to the consumer, and adding restrictions... the law was DESIGNED to make them fail. Don't you get it ?
And no one is THREATENING anything ! They literally are going out of business because of the ACA. Why ? Because they're losing money, despite the rate increases. That is why they're shutting down! Even when they were initially on board, thinking it was going to be a windfall of promised profits???
They were LIED TO ! We ALL were ! Have you already forgotten that Jonathan Gruber flat out ADMITTED they lied to everyone , or else this b.s. law would never have gotten passed in the first place ??
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I honestly have not been hearing too many Dems saying, "ObamaCare is the greatest!" I did hear the Dem prez candidate say, "It has flaws, let's fix them." I have heard Dems say, "TrumpCare is worse than TrumpSteaks." I've heard some Reps say that as well. I say fix the problems instead of breaking it again. Go ahead Republicans - you can even take the credit.
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" If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. " Of course Dems are going to minimize the flaws in the ACA, and hyper inflate the problems w/ TrumpCare ( which is still being made, btw, and isn't by any stretch a done deal )
Break it the hell down. It was a disaster from the very start, and actually unconstitutional.
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Aetna, like all the other profit-driven insurance companies that have pulled out of state exchanges, are actually speeding up their own demise. Full-blown single payer Govt. run health insurance looms as the inevitable successor to Obama/TrumpCare. Krauthammer says it will happen during Trump's presidency. It won't matter to me because I'll be on Medicare by then. Say hello to Socialism.
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Say hello to riots and civil unrest then as well.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
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By who? Conservatives don't riot and cause civil unrest. Only leftist psychos do that, and they will be thrilled with Govt. Single Payer. So what are you talking about?
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Originally posted by Riverlove:
By who? Conservatives don't riot and cause civil unrest. Only leftist psychos do that, and they will be thrilled with Govt. Single Payer. So what are you talking about?
Those sick and tired of paying 2,3,4 x what they were paying before the ACA. So far, it's been Leftist Antifa punks, trying to shut down free speech. But this keeps up, the Right is going to have its own answer.
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By who? Conservatives don't riot and cause civil unrest. Only leftist psychos do that, and they will be thrilled with Govt. Single Payer. So what are you talking about?
They are only thrilled by their delusional version of Govt. Single payer: less cost - which it won't be, as many available doctors as before ACA - which it won't be, lower deductibles - which there won't be, and all their other utopian free government money demands - which their won't be.
So the same Libtards who have been rioting for any lame excuse will claim another lame excuse.
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They are only thrilled by their delusional version of Govt. Single payer: less cost - which it won't be, as many available doctors as before ACA - which it won't be, lower deductibles - which there won't be, and all their other utopian free government money demands - which their won't be.
So the same Libtards who have been rioting for any lame excuse will claim another lame excuse.
The GOP mantra for decades and decades has been to contract everything out, because "free enterprise" and "market forces" always work "better" than government. But I've seen MANY formerly government functions contracted out (prisons, security, food and janitorial services, labs) and the only thing they were "better" at was providing poorer customer service, lower pay to workers, and amazing profits to the company. They didn't even save the government any money!
The problem with our healthcare being so expensive and so ineffective isn't necessarily a lack of doctors (USA is low on the list with 2.3, but Japan is even lower with 2.0 and Singapore at 1.4) http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Health/Physicians/Per-1
,000-people or lack of facilities (except in rural areas) but the fact that healthcare is controlled by near-monopolies of pharmas, insurances, and giant hospital chains, and healthcare flows to money. This has left large portions of the population unserved, and created a huge reservoir of sick people. Also, the homeless/ mentally ill create a huge burden on emergency rooms (and jails); we need a better way to reduce our homeless population.
Anyway, one way to control costs is to have the USA government be the single payer, and negotiate for better rates. That would eliminate at least 15% of the extraneous costs right there.
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The repubs here sound like a bunch of hillbilly rubes.
Somehow they failed to notice that there's an entire world out there, that all other developed nations out there have some form of government healthcare, that even developing nations do as well, and that people with government healthcare are healthier at less cost.
Care to try addressing the facts, again?
Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?
Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
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Quote:They saved the government money in the forms of liabilities, lawsuits and legacy costs.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
They are only thrilled by their delusional version of Govt. Single payer: less cost - which it won't be, as many available doctors as before ACA - which it won't be, lower deductibles - which there won't be, and all their other utopian free government money demands - which their won't be.
So the same Libtards who have been rioting for any lame excuse will claim another lame excuse.
The GOP mantra for decades and decades has been to contract everything out, because "free enterprise" and "market forces" always work "better" than government. But I've seen MANY formerly government functions contracted out (prisons, security, food and janitorial services, labs) and the only thing they were "better" at was providing poorer customer service, lower pay to workers, and amazing profits to the company. They didn't even save the government any money!
I do not agree that prisons should be farmed out without much better oversight and monitoring. I HAVE heard that inmate rape occurs less in private prisons than the rampant problem in government incarceration, but I am not sure all of the evidecnce is in.
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The problem with our healthcare being so expensive and so ineffective isn't necessarily a lack of doctors (USA is low on the list with 2.3, but Japan is even lower with 2.0 and Singapore at 1.4) http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Health/Physicians/Per-1
,000-people or lack of facilities (except in rural areas)
are you trying to be disingenuous? Comparing per capita data with Japan and Singapore, or any other high-density population? Are you pretending that the larger geographical range of America does not require a lower per capita rate of Doctors? Maybe compare to Canada, which has a population density less than that of USA.
Quote:Are you forgetting that the liberals already solved this entire issue? The solution was to release the mentally ill from hospitals to be free from homes, aka homeless.
but the fact that healthcare is controlled by near-monopolies of pharmas, insurances, and giant hospital chains, and healthcare flows to money. This has left large portions of the population unserved, and created a huge reservoir of sick people. Also, the homeless/ mentally ill create a huge burden on emergency rooms (and jails); we need a better way to reduce our homeless population.
Quote:Further example of what I was posting about. Remember how Obama explained to you that numbers just don't work out the way that liberals think, when real math is employed.
Anyway, one way to control costs is to have the USA government be the single payer, and negotiate for better rates. That would eliminate at least 15% of the extraneous costs right there.
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