End of the Democratic Party (not kidding)
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UPDATED: Saturday, December 13, 2025 18:43
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Really!? Reasonable people...the latest on the American Health Bill, or Trumpcare (an oxymoron) is that it will only benefit those banking $200,000 or more a year.
No pre-existing conditions (despite what Drumpf says, quelle surprise!)
Definite cut, 25%, in Medicaid for the poor, disabled and elderly, so if you're poor, sick and/or elderly you're FUCKED.
As a result, hospitals in rural areas and cash-strapped hospitals in the metro areas
will become non-existent in the near future because their patients will no longer be able to afford health insurance. Which will put more doctors and nurses on the unemployment line, not to mention the supporting staff. Now, didn't Trump promise not to cut Medicaid? Hmmmmmm
Guess where those people are going to move to? Oh yeah! the metro areas. Guess who they will blame for their change of scenery? Starts with an R.
Gee, I hope you have $200,000 laying around somewhere, otherwise brace yourself for a rude awakening. NOT KIDDING!!!
SGG
LOL... put that one in the predictions thread.
Then right under it put me saying that everything in this post is never going to happen.
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Then right under it put me saying that everything in this post is never going to happen.
You know something, upon further review: You're Right!!!
SGG
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There are a lot of reasons why the Democratic Party is going to end, and they tend to revolve around the fact that they no longer represent average Americans. In fact, they play to a hodge-podge of self-identified aggrieved victim-groups, but they REALLY work for the globalist elite, which has been benefiting all along.
What is sickening to me is the sight of House Democrats celebrating the vote to repeal Obamacare by singing http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/05/04/democrats-sing-na-na-goo
dbye-house-floor-ahca-mobile.cnn/video/playlists/health-care-fight/ "Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye"
Really? They're so happy that the GOP stiffs the American people because it will cause Americans to run back into the toxic arms of the Dems? Is that the only thing Dems have to offer: There being literally no other choice for us Americans but to run from one noxious embrace to another? Because the GOP has gotten so rotten that the Dems are relieved that they don't have to clean up at all and still have a chance at 'winning" the next election?
Whatever happened to offering a better alternative? Obamacare IS in trouble, neither the Democraps not the Rethuglicans have any plans to do anything real about it, all they want to do is play political and ideological games.
Why do we pay these clowns anyway?
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
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You make some interesting points there siggy. Okay, I'll bite, the Dems are rapidly sinking in a pool of quicksand. Got it!
What I don't get is how you go from the serenade of the GOP house dogs to the celebration of the vote to repeal Obamacare. They were singing "goodbye" to the
GOP in the house because of Congress signing the AHCA Bill, NOT the repeal of Obamacare (contrary to popular belief, that hasn't taken place yet).
http://ew.com/news/2017/05/04/democrats-sing-hey-hey-goodbye-republica
ns-vote-obamacare-repeal/
And I quote:
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The narrow, contentious passage of the American Health Care Act on the House floor Thursday put Democrats in a singing mood — not in celebration, but as a warning.
As the GOP effort to repeal and replace Obamacare passed by a slim 217-to-213 margin (with no votes from the minority party), House Democrats began chanting the chorus to the late-’60s rock song “Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye” while waving farewell to their Republican counterparts.
There's more...
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The serenade underscored Democrats’ assertion that Republicans who vote for the AHCA risk being voted out of office next year. The scene also illustrated how divisive the health care debate has become in the U.S. For their part, Republicans didn’t seem worried: Aides were spotted bringing beer into the Capitol to toast their victory. The AHCA now heads to the Senate, where it faces another heated battle.
So Dems, far from innocent here, were not rubbing it in to the poor American slobs.
They were actually rubbing it in to the republicans, which is like rubbing it in towards the poor American slobs because, after all, they were voted in fair and square by the American people. So, in a way, you're right! Damn, I didn't see that coming! Did you? I mean, I'm actually agreeing with you. Politics sure are funny.
Oh, by the way, in that All American/LMAGA Bill, 24 million Americans will be kicked off the health insurance coverage. Plus no pre-existing conditions. Not to mention an increase in premiums and health care costs. Fewer people covered will mean fewer paying customers for the hospitals to survive - particularly those in
financial straits and economic woes. In other words, hospitals in rural areas and
in poor metro areas. That affects the poor, the elderly and the sick. Speaking of which, Medicaid is being cut by 25%. And where would the doctors, nurses and staff
go to find work?
Yeah, the repubs have a dandy of a health bill there. The rich will get richer and the poor will go to H, E, double hockey sticks!!! But the Dems, oh they are going to burn...ya' know, I forget exactly the reason why. Well, like it says in the article. There's going to be a major battle regarding this great new health insurance bill.
P.S. The CBO haven't made their determination yet. It's due out this coming week.
Go Trump Go!!!
SGG
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
There are a lot of reasons why the Democratic Party is going to end, and they tend to revolve around the fact that they no longer represent average Americans. In fact, they play to a hodge-podge of self-identified aggrieved victim-groups, but they REALLY work for the globalist elite, which has been benefiting all along.
What is sickening to me is the sight of House Democrats celebrating the vote to repeal Obamacare by singing http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/05/04/democrats-sing-na-na-goo
dbye-house-floor-ahca-mobile.cnn/video/playlists/health-care-fight/ "Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye"
Really? They're so happy that the GOP stiffs the American people because it will cause Americans to run back into the toxic arms of the Dems? Is that the only thing Dems have to offer: There being literally no other choice for us Americans but to run from one noxious embrace to another? Because the GOP has gotten so rotten that the Dems are relieved that they don't have to cleanNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
SGG ... apparently, I haven't made myself clear.
When I heard the Dems singing, my blood just went to insta-boil.
YES, I KNOW WHY THEY WERE SINGING.
But I found the Dem political stunt so triumphal about future "victories" they seemed to have completely lost sight of the importance of this issue to many average Americans, and reduced it to "my team versus your team", "winning and losing".
The appropriate response would have been to offer an ALTERNATIVE to both the GOP AND Obamacare, which was rapidly becoming hostage to monopolized insurances and pharmas which had NO competition built in at all.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE BUYING PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE A REQUIREMENT, you HAVE TO ENSURE HEALTHY COMPETITION. Absent that, all you've done is created a government-subsidized ass-raping monopoly.
So, what are the Dem's plans??? Wait until the average American is in such distress that they will swoop in and pick up the political pieces? And sing about it?
BTW SGG - you should have noticed that I had unkind words for the GOP too.
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
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Quote:Judging by their performance in the House, they plan to do exactly what the GOP has done about healthcare for the eight years under Obama, which was.... nothing.
I have no idea what Dems plans are - G
It's easy for Hillary to say "fix it", but HOW? That's the hard part, the part Dems seem reluctant to commit to.
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
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O me, O my ...
I didn't realize our country
has become so politically dysfunctional.
... oooOO}{OOooo ...
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Quote:Well, we've been living under an oligarchy for a long time, OONJ. Now that the middle class has been under economic decline for ten years, it makes a difference. People start to notice how they're being screwed, yanno?
Originally posted by Oonjerah:
O me, O my ...
I didn't realize our country
has become so politically dysfunctional.
Time to wake up and smell the coffee.
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one
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I know that BOTH sides have been dragging their feet on fixing the ACA. I know that more than most. To be fair, the ACA was derived from a republican form of the idea (compiled by Romney while governor of Mass).
So you felt that they were being cruel. Perhaps! But throwing the baby out with the bathwater is not a solution. Both sides need to get down to brass tacks and fix what is broke with the ACA and move on. Or scrap the entire thing and model the new health care bill after the Universal Health Care in Canada or Australia, which even the dodo head Trump admits is tops.
SGG
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SGG ... apparently, I haven't made myself clear.
When I heard the Dems singing, my blood just went to insta-boil.
YES, I KNOW WHY THEY WERE SINGING.
But I found the Dem political stunt so triumphal about future "victories" they seemed to have completely lost sight of the importance of this issue to many average Americans, and reduced it to "my team versus your team", "winning and losing".
The appropriate response would have been to offer an ALTERNATIVE to both the GOP AND Obamacare, which was rapidly becoming hostage to monopolized insurances and pharmas which had NO competition built in at all.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE BUYING PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE A REQUIREMENT, you HAVE TO ENSURE HEALTHY COMPETITION. Absent that, all you've done is created a government-subsidized ass-raping monopoly.
So, what are the Dem's plans??? Wait until the average American is in such distress that they will swoop in and pick up the political pieces? And sing about it?
BTW SGG - you should have noticed that I had unkind words for the GOP too.
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
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To be accurate, the Dems are not in "control" of Congress, so any adjustments or ideas to fix ACA in the face of Trump's promises, "I will dump Obamacare in the first week" would be a huge waste of time. So don't blame the Dems for not working too hard on that. It's in the GOP's/Trump's court and he's been clear on what he wants to do: give breaks to the rich and fund that by throwing millions of Americans into the streets. Basic math.- G
G, it doesn't take a lot of effort to put some staffers together on how to fix Obamacare and come up with a plan. The Dems shouldn't even try to pass it through Congress, because the effort would be DOA. What the Dems should do, if they want to win elections honestly (yanno, because they have better ideas) is to come up with a plan and then tell the public. IF they have a good, solid plan, they should KEEP telling the public. The problem is, they're not offering an alternative. Why is that?
Quote:The GOP COULD HAVE been studying the solution this entire time .... it's not like they needed to come up with something in two weeks ... but, like the Dems, nobody wants to handle this hot potato. Why is that?
Bigger issues about this: like too many issues this is all about us versus them (agree with Siggy). It's not even really STUDIED for a solution. It was very clear by it being doomed before it hit the light of day, that Trump rushed the replacement out without much thought. You can't FIX something this broken and big without understanding it better. Instead, the pov is, "let's fix health care for 300,000,000 people this week." Unbelievable. Meanwhile, prices keep going up like a run away train. Fore! - G
Coming up with a workable plan would make the originating party a hero to most people, and would ensure party victory for at least ten years (barring anything else egregiously stupid). But despite all of the vote-getting incentive, both parties are running away from this issue like the plague. So if you follow the bunny-trail of WHY that is so, you will have discovered why our politics are such a clusterfuck.
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one
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