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Trump launches missiles against Syria; more false flags planned?

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KPO
Friday, April 14, 2017 3:27 AM

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Originally posted by Riverlove:
How refreshing to see at least one Liberal who doesn't fantasize conspiracies everywhere. Bravo!


Liberal? Every conspiracist here is a Trump voter/supporter. I count 4 of them.

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Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521

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Friday, April 14, 2017 3:58 AM

The liberal conspiracy theory is to see everyone who disagrees with them as a trump supporter.

G, Assad is a pretty good negotiator. Trump is an excellent one. I'll give him that. I'm dubious about his bombing campaigns. You should take it as some consolation that when I saw someone commenting about a sane liberal that I knew it would be you. (It might've been KPO)

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Friday, April 14, 2017 8:16 AM

This post is for the moron.




Analysts identify #SyriaHoax as Russian-fueled propaganda

That hoax story was promoted by a network of Russian social media accounts and ultimately picked up by popular alt-right personalities in the United States, including Mike Cernovich, one of the leading voices in the debunked 'Pizzagate' conspiracy theory. Cernovich popularized its new hashtag -- #SyriaHoax -- and sent it soaring through cyberspace. According to Trends24, within hours of the retaliatory missile strike President Donald Trump launched on Thursday night, #SyriaHoax was the No. 1 trending Twitter topic in the United States.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/analysts-identify-syriahoax-russia
n-fueled-propaganda/story?id=46787674






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Friday, April 14, 2017 8:19 AM

Who thought it was a hoax?

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Friday, April 14, 2017 9:39 AM

I'm sure people did die. Doesn't mean that it went down the way they say it went down. They learn from their mistakes. You can't say there are WMDs and rile everyone up and end up not having any WMDs to show for it anymore.

At the end of the day, so what? Not our problem. Why are we supposed to be the World Police. Let them sort it out.

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Friday, April 14, 2017 7:58 PM

Just talked with a friend in ENgland. He doesn't support any conspiracy theories, but he said no one he knows in Europe takes this "Assad did it" theory seriously. I think the false narratives have gotten out of control.

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Friday, April 14, 2017 8:18 PM

Really, Their European leaders believe they did it, and they've said so. Our leaders have proof, and they bomb Assad for it.

You spoke to someone in England. That's a hoot. It's also a SIG move. Putin's suggested that Assad didn't do it. Therefore, it's no surprise you are trying to make the case you are. To plant the seed of doubt. Go for it comrade.

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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Just talked with a friend in ENgland. He doesn't support any conspiracy theories, but he said no one he knows in Europe takes this "Assad did it" theory seriously. I think the false narratives have gotten out of control.







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Friday, April 14, 2017 8:18 PM

Analysis of Sarin-attack evidence by MIT professor emeritus of Science, Technology, and National Security, Theodor Postol Ph.D.


Quote:

Dear Larry,

I am responding to your distribution of what I understand is a White House statement claiming intelligence findings about the nerve agent attack on April 4, 2017 in Khan Shaykhun, Syria. My understanding from your note is that this White House intelligence summary was released to you sometime on April 11, 2017.

I have reviewed the document carefully, and I believe it can be shown, without doubt, that the document does not provide any evidence whatsoever that the US government has concrete knowledge that the government of Syria was the source of the chemical attack in Khan Shaykhun, Syria at roughly 6 to 7 a.m. on April 4, 2017.

In fact, a main piece of evidence that is cited in the document points to an attack that was executed by individuals on the ground, not from an aircraft, on the morning of April 4. This conclusion is based on an assumption made by the White House when it cited the source of the sarin release and the photographs of that source. My own assessment, is that the source was very likely tampered with or staged, so no serious conclusion could be made from the photographs cited by the White House.

However, if one assumes, as does the White House, that the source of the sarin was from this location and that the location was not tampered with, the most plausible conclusion is that the sarin was dispensed by an improvised dispersal device made from a 122 mm section of rocket tube filled with sarin and capped on both sides.

The only undisputable facts stated in the White House report is the claim that a chemical attack using nerve agent occurred in Khan Shaykhun, Syria on that morning. Although the White House statement repeats this point in many places within its report, the report contains absolutely no evidence that this attack was the result of a munition being dropped from an aircraft. In fact, the report contains absolutely no evidence that would indicate who was the perpetrator of this atrocity.

The report instead repeats observations of physical effects suffered by victims that with very little doubt indicate nerve agent poisoning.

The only source the document cites as evidence that the attack was by the Syrian government is the crater it claims to have identified on a road in the North of Khan Shaykhun.

I have located this crater using Google Earth and there is absolutely no evidence that the crater was created by a munition designed to disperse sarin after it is dropped from an aircraft. The Google Earth map shown in Figure 1 at the end of this text section shows the location of that crater on the road in the north of Khan Shaykhun, as described in the White House statement.

...

Analysis of the debris as shown in the photographs cited by the White House clearly indicates that the munition was almost certainly placed on the ground with an external detonating explosive on top of it that crushed the container so as to disperse the alleged load of sarin.

MORE AT
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_Vs2rjE9TdwR2F3NFFVWDExMnc/view

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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.

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Friday, April 14, 2017 8:28 PM

He is one person SIG. Besides, there is nothing you post that I trust. I trust General Mattis who said Assad did it more than your liberal professor, who may have outside influences. That said, you wanted Trump and this White House because you believed he would be good for Putin. For more than a year you pushed Trump relentlessly here in these threads. Well, you got him.



Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Analysis of Sarin-attack evidence by MIT professor emeritus of Science, Technology, and National Security, Theodor Postol Ph.D.


Quote:

Dear Larry,

I am responding to your distribution of what I understand is a White House statement claiming intelligence findings about the nerve agent attack on April 4, 2017 in Khan Shaykhun, Syria. My understanding from your note is that this White House intelligence summary was released to you sometime on April 11, 2017.

I have reviewed the document carefully, and I believe it can be shown, without doubt, that the document does not provide any evidence whatsoever that the US government has concrete knowledge that the government of Syria was the source of the chemical attack in Khan Shaykhun, Syria at roughly 6 to 7 a.m. on April 4, 2017.

In fact, a main piece of evidence that is cited in the document points to an attack that was executed by individuals on the ground, not from an aircraft, on the morning of April 4. This conclusion is based on an assumption made by the White House when it cited the source of the sarin release and the photographs of that source. My own assessment, is that the source was very likely tampered with or staged, so no serious conclusion could be made from the photographs cited by the White House.

However, if one assumes, as does the White House, that the source of the sarin was from this location and that the location was not tampered with, the most plausible conclusion is that the sarin was dispensed by an improvised dispersal device made from a 122 mm section of rocket tube filled with sarin and capped on both sides.

The only undisputable facts stated in the White House report is the claim that a chemical attack using nerve agent occurred in Khan Shaykhun, Syria on that morning. Although the White House statement repeats this point in many places within its report, the report contains absolutely no evidence that this attack was the result of a munition being dropped from an aircraft. In fact, the report contains absolutely no evidence that would indicate who was the perpetrator of this atrocity.

The report instead repeats observations of physical effects suffered by victims that with very little doubt indicate nerve agent poisoning.

The only source the document cites as evidence that the attack was by the Syrian government is the crater it claims to have identified on a road in the North of Khan Shaykhun.

I have located this crater using Google Earth and there is absolutely no evidence that the crater was created by a munition designed to disperse sarin after it is dropped from an aircraft. The Google Earth map shown in Figure 1 at the end of this text section shows the location of that crater on the road in the north of Khan Shaykhun, as described in the White House statement.

...

Analysis of the debris as shown in the photographs cited by the White House clearly indicates that the munition was almost certainly placed on the ground with an external detonating explosive on top of it that crushed the container so as to disperse the alleged load of sarin.

MORE AT
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_Vs2rjE9TdwR2F3NFFVWDExMnc/view

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.








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Friday, April 14, 2017 8:30 PM

Cernonvich, a loopy-sounding alt-right guy who has been correct in the past, said that this "sarin gas attack" was just set-piece to allow the USA to send a wave of 150,000 troops into Syria, and that this is all being pushed by McMaster.


That concept - if not that number- was echoed (or perhaps repeated) by Bloomberg's Eli Lake

Quote:

Senior White House and administration officials tell me Trump's national security adviser, General H.R. McMaster, has been quietly pressing his colleagues to question the underlying assumptions of a draft war plan against the Islamic State that would maintain only a light U.S. ground troop presence in Syria. McMaster's critics inside the administration say he wants to send tens of thousands of ground troops to the Euphrates River Valley.

... McMaster himself has found resistance to a more robust ground troop presence in Syria. In two meetings since the end of February of Trump's national security cabinet, known as the principals' committee, Trump's top advisers have failed to reach consensus on the Islamic State strategy. The White House and administration officials say Secretary of Defense James Mattis, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Joseph Dunford and General Joseph Votel, who is in charge of U.S. Central Command, oppose sending more conventional forces into Syria. Meanwhile, White House senior strategist Stephen Bannon has derided McMaster to his colleagues as trying to start a new Iraq War, according to these sources. ....

He argued that U.S. forces in Iraq would have been caught up inside a civil war had they stayed.

The cadre of former military advisers to Petraeus took a different view. They argued that America's abandonment of Iraq gave the Shiite majority there a license to pursue a sectarian agenda that provided a political and military opening for the Islamic State. An active U.S. presence in Iraq would have restrained those sectarian forces.

One of those advisers was H.R. McMaster. It's now up to Trump to decide whether to test the Petraeus camp's theory or try to defeat the Islamic State with a light footprint in Syria. Put another way, Trump must decide whether he wants to wage Bush's war or continue Obama's.


https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-13/trump-said-no-to-tr
oops-in-syria-his-aides-aren-t-so-sure


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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.

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