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ahh... now here is a question that might get some people fired up. of all the things that joss whedon has written or worked on (firefly, angel, buffy, films such as alien resurrection, titan ae, toy story etc.) which one reigns supreme and more importantly, WHY?
my choice is firefly. my reason, the writing has been uniformly good across the episodes and although this may be partly due to the short run of the show, i think it also says something about the development of the writer's skill after two previous tv series. also, i felt the production value is higher since more advance effects were available (and used) for this show compared to the other two. also, perhaps more $$ was spent on each episode.
of course, no one can judge all the things he has done on the same level (since, like i said, effects have evolved), but for the time being, just ignore that and judge each one independently.
please post a reason why you chose the one you did. 
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Well, for me it has to be Firefly. If it wasn't for Firefly, I wouldn't have even heard of Joss Whedon. I really enjoyed Titan A.E. and Toy Story, but I hadn't heard of him.
As for Buffy and Angel, I wasn't very interested in those shows when they were on the air. When I try to watch them now I catch it in the middle of the season and I don't know what's going on.
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Titan A.E. Definitely.
Okay, just kidding. It's Firefly.
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Heh... Yeah, Firefly.
I've always liked his movie work. Buffy was a beautifully crafted concept with a wonderful cast, and I absolutely loved it. In my opinion, Angel was even better (with certain exceptions), as it was more interesting topic matter to me and rang true.
But Firefly...
I've never been an actual fan of anything. I was talking to my wife about this over the weekend. I've never bought things from a show before or anything like that, not even in my youth. But I actually own not only the show on DVD, but clothing (and soon to be more!), including a Jane hat! 
But the show has a strength of heart - a feeling of reality in the fantasy - to it that just held me captivated, week after week. It's the characters, the wonder, the detail...
It's got it all.
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Wait...what?! Joss wrote Titan A.E. and Toy Story? D00d. I've liked Joss longer than I thought.
My vote's still going to have to go with Firefly, though. I never could really get into Buffy, and while I really liked the concept behind Angel's character (my favorite type of character is the reformed bad guy or dark good guy), I just never really did watch it all that much. Liked what I saw, though. Firefly's just got so much I love. Historical nods to the Civil War, western and sci-fi. Great characters, wonderful story, and the obvious love of the cast and crew for their work.
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I admit that I believe that 'Firefly' had the greatest unfulfilled potential of Joss' vision...
and I have high hopes that 'Serenity' and subsequent films, will fulfill that potential.
However if you ask
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which one reigns supreme and more importantly, WHY?
I have to pick Buffy the Vampire Slayer, because:
'Hush': the brilliant silent episode
'Once More With Feeling': the even more brilliant musical
Buffy was filled with amazing achievements of uniquely exciting writing...
There has never been a show like it on the air,
and with Joss closing down Mutant Enemy I fear there never will be another show like it on Television again....
However I still do believe that Joss has a huge career ahead of him on the silver screen, and that 'Serenity' is just the first of many exciting films.
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Firefly, for all the reasons given above, and one more; it's his latest creation.
The next new project Joss turns to just might dethrone it, though. With everything a writer does, he (or she) gets more polished, and picks up a few new tricks.
Something tells me Joss is just gonna keep topping himself.
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Difficult question this.
As much as I'd love to say Firefly I think I'm going to go with:
Buffy it really was something new for TV at the time, and they did a heck of a lot with that show. Season 3 was a remarkable run of great quality shows, with real wrenching emotional episodes, almost one after the other. It was totally gripping and even now when I watch that season I have to watch it all the way through - it's so strong.
Then there are the one off classics that pushed the boundaries of TV:
Hush as was mentioned already.
Once more with feeling
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and that dream one which I forget what it was called now.
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Firefly was what introduced me to the world of Joss Whedon and it holds that special place in my heart.
The writing is fantastic throughout, and I also think that part of the reason for that is the fact there are only 13 epidodes. Joss also mentioned in one of the commentaries that since they were in danger of cancellation since the beginning, it really inspired them to really go after exactly what shots really needed to be shown to tell the story to it's fullest. I think Joss & Co. accomplished that brilliantly.
That said, even though Firefly is still my favorite (I think), I am also thoroughly addicted to Buffy and Angel now as well and I feel sad that I missed out on these shows all the years they were on tv. 
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