Trump launches missiles against Syria; more false flags planned?
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UPDATED: Sunday, August 30, 2026 16:39
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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Yes, I initially thought our liberals were misinformed doves, but now I see that they are fairly well informed hawks, who just try to hide the fact that they are hawks, and that is their primary agenda.
I asked Jack this same question and he replied with a lie (of course). How 'bout you?
Who are the liberals who are now hawks on this board?
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What question? Who are the liberals who are now hawks?
What lie did I tell? You're having an imaginary conversation. I have no idea what you're even talking about. Show me where you asked me that question.
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I've got no reason to lie. Show me the lies that I've said on this board. You might not agree with me, but that doesn't mean I'm lying.
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So Trump attacked Assad. What now?
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/trump-strike-syria-what
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A core dynamic at play here pertains to Russia, which was warned of U.S. plans to attack Al-Shayrat but whose entire presence in Syria is predicated on propping up Assad and covering for his criminal actions. In the immediate aftermath of the chemical attack on Khan Sheikhoun, a humiliated Russia was forced to concoct an illogical story, every facet of which was either swiftly disproved or dismissed as laughable by experts and journalists on the ground. With U.S. intelligence now investigating whether Russia had been involved in the use of chemical weapons in Khan Sheikhoun, Russia’s emphatic rhetoric and talk of threats is almost certainly cover for its lack of options and the fact that it finds itself having to blindly protect a global pariah.
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Foreign intervention for rapid regime change promises only further chaos, but determined U.S. leadership backed up by the credible and now proven threat of force presents the best opportunity in years to strong-arm actors on the ground into a phase of meaningful de-escalation, out of which eventually, a durable negotiation process may result. This is something Obama never understood: His efforts to broker peace failed because he refused even to consider threatening war. Every feeble threat given from an Obama podium effectively amounted to a further emboldening of the Assad regime’s sense of immunity and its free hand to murder its people en masse.
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if anything is now clear, it is that the U.S. has more freedom of action in Syria than the Obama administration was ever willing to admit. Opponents of limited U.S. intervention who have long and confidently pronounced the inevitability of conflict with Russia are now faced with the reality that Moscow failed to lift a finger when American missiles careered toward Assad regime targets. For now, that discovery was made through a tactical reaction to a brazen war crime, but a holistic strategy must now be developed that treats all threats emanating from Syria as individual components of a single problem: the Assad regime.
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But ISIS is the bastard child of Assad’s misrule: Syria will never be stable while he remains in power and the longer he sticks around, the more extremists will reap the rewards of his brutality by escaping from justice and ensuring their narratives thrive among the disenfranchised.
The choice is not and has never been a binary one between Assad and ISIS, as some have tried to claim. Syria remains a country of many communities and many perspectives. Of a population of roughly 23 million people, no more than 20,000 (0.09 percent) have chosen to join Al Qaeda or ISIS, according to privately discussed estimates held by U.S. intelligence officials. Therefore, U.S. policy is best served by securing a future for the remaining 99.91 percent. With newfound leverage and a growing coalition of countries announcing their support for stronger action on Assad, the U.S. has an opportunity now to set Syria on a path toward something better. It will take time and resources, and likely many more risks, but that must surely hold better prospects than leaving the country to war criminals and their blind defenders.
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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."
Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521
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How Trump's strikes play into Putin's hands:
http://www.politico.eu/article/how-trumps-syria-strikes-play-into-puti
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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."
Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521
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A point about the bombing of one of the hospitals treating the victims of the chemical attack:
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American intelligence officials also suspect that an attempt might have been made to frustrate efforts to gather evidence of a chemical assault. After victims were rushed to a hospital, a small drone appeared overhead before disappearing. About five hours later, the drone returned and another airstrike hit the medical center; American officials do not know if the drone or the second strike was launched by Syria or Russia.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/world/middleeast/american-military-
pentagon.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fmiddleeast
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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."
Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521
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Quote:I voted for Trump for three things. This was NOT one of them.
Sig you voted for unpredictability in the form of DJT, and unpredictability is what you got- KRAPO
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THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
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Originally posted by kpo:
A point about the bombing of one of the hospitals treating the victims of the chemical attack:Quote:
American intelligence officials also suspect that an attempt might have been made to frustrate efforts to gather evidence of a chemical assault. After victims were rushed to a hospital, a small drone appeared overhead before disappearing. About five hours later, the drone returned and another airstrike hit the medical center; American officials do not know if the drone or the second strike was launched by Syria or Russia.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/world/middleeast/american-military-
pentagon.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fmiddleeast
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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."
Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521
KPO,
I'm going to go with Israel. Based on nothing. But here it is.
DT, Zionist jew, yes, is finally blaming Israel for something, out of nowhere. (I know i've done it before, but not in over a decade.)
Israel is knee deep in ISIS, and they have drones. Here's the thing that a lot of conspriacy theories don't get: In order to have a technology in war, you don't just need to know it, you need to have perfected it. I suspect Russia is not there yet, and I know Syria isn't, with drones. Russia can't do anything without us knowing about it, because Russians will talk, to each other, about it.Also, no motive. Russia claimed responsibility for the attack, they didn't have a reason to hide who it was. Neither Russia nor Syria had Sarin on site, so the attack was almost certainly ISIS, so the drone strike had to cover up who it was, and those who did it would need to be involved in the cover up. In the Syria did the gas attack side there's Iran, but it's unlikely that Iran's drones are combat ready.
So, it has to be someone who would cover for ISIS. I'm going to go out on a limb and say ISIS doesn't have combat ready drones. Someone supporting ISIS does. ISIS supporters are Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Israel. Israel has armed drones. Almost no one has armed drones, most drones are surveillance. So, Israel has them because we gave them to Israel. And, Israel is on board with the PNAC plan to get rid of Assad.
Lastly, someone has to fly into this space to do the attack, which means they have to have the tacit okay of someone who is already there. That probably cuts out the Saudis. I definitely cuts out Iran.
Ergo, Motive, Mean and Opportunity leaves me with one suspect: Israel. I think that this logic which has been used to solve crimes for centuries, is pretty solid, and there's not going to be a better answer. Maybe the UN will find something.
And yeah, I know you believe the narrative, but that don't make it so.
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Okay, I'll bite. Sig, which three?
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Quote:I'm sure you can find a quote to back that up. Or are you lying ... AGAIN?
Originally posted by THGRRI:
SIG fought tooth and nail here preaching Trump should be elected president because she believed it would be best for Russia. Trump just saidrussia.
Care to try addressing the facts, again?
Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?
Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
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Quote:Thanks for the interesting post.
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Here's the thing that a lot of conspriacy theories don't get: In order to have a technology in war, you don't just need to know it, you need to have perfected it. I suspect Russia is not there yet, and I know Syria isn't, with drones. Russia can't do anything without us knowing about it, because Russians will talk, to each other, about it.Also, no motive. Russia claimed responsibility for the attack, they didn't have a reason to hide who it was. Neither Russia nor Syria had Sarin on site, so the attack was almost certainly ISIS, so the drone strike had to cover up who it was, and those who did it would need to be involved in the cover up. In the Syria did the gas attack side there's Iran, but it's unlikely that Iran's drones are combat ready.
So, it has to be someone who would cover for ISIS. I'm going to go out on a limb and say ISIS doesn't have combat ready drones. Someone supporting ISIS does. ISIS supporters are Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Israel. Israel has armed drones. Almost no one has armed drones, most drones are surveillance. So, Israel has them because we gave them to Israel. And, Israel is on board with the PNAC plan to get rid of Assad.
Lastly, someone has to fly into this space to do the attack, which means they have to have the tacit okay of someone who is already there. That probably cuts out the Saudis. I definitely cuts out Iran.
Ergo, Motive, Mean and Opportunity leaves me with one suspect: Israel. I think that this logic which has been used to solve crimes for centuries, is pretty solid, and there's not going to be a better answer. Maybe the UN will find something.
And yeah, I know you believe the narrative, but that don't make it so.
Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
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That's what I thought G.
Don't go around calling me a liar.
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