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The wiretap tweet IS true (update)

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THGRRI

Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:42 AM

Trolls explains it better SHINYGOODGUY. Nobody's that stupid and walking around without a keeper.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Boy! Are you guys thick.

SGG

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
...And if you clap real LOUD and believe with all your might, you can save Tinkerbell!

SGG

Are you sarcastically admitting defeat, Trump was right all along, and your Libtard MSM was lying the whole time to you?

Or are you attempting to use sarcasm to maintain your denial denial denial?

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SIG says I'm a deep state troll.

oh my.

1KIKI

Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:48 AM

rustybadgay believes in Tinkerbell.

Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, April 4, 2017 6:20 AM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Boy! Are you guys thick.

SGG

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
...And if you clap real LOUD and believe with all your might, you can save Tinkerbell!

SGG

Are you sarcastically admitting defeat, Trump was right all along, and your Libtard MSM was lying the whole time to you?

Or are you attempting to use sarcasm to maintain your denial denial denial?

Translation, please?

THGRRI

Tuesday, April 4, 2017 6:23 AM

The title of this thread is "The wiretap tweet may be true (BBC)." We now know It's not true.

Next...

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SIG says I'm a deep state troll. oh my.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, April 4, 2017 8:43 PM

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Confirmed: Susan Rice "Unmasked" Trump Team

Until this morning, the Cernovich report was unconfirmed, with many in the "legacy media" accusing Cernovich, who recently was profiled on 60 Minutes for being a prominent member of the "fake news" dissemination team for being - what else - fake news. However, moments ago Bloomberg's Eli Lake confirmed that it was indeed Susan Rice who was responsible for the repeatedly "unmasking" multiple members of the Trump team, in what may be dubbed yet another "conspiracy" to delegitimize the current US president.

From Eli Lake:

White House lawyers last month learned that the former national security adviser Susan Rice requested the identities of U.S. persons in raw intelligence reports on dozens of occasions that connect to the Donald Trump transition and campaign, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

The pattern of Rice's requests was discovered in a National Security Council review of the government's policy on "unmasking" the identities of individuals in the U.S. who are not targets of electronic eavesdropping, but whose communications are collected incidentally. Normally those names are redacted from summaries of monitored conversations and appear in reports as something like "U.S. Person One."

As Lake adds, the National Security Council's senior director for intelligence, Ezra Cohen-Watnick, was conducting the review, according to two U.S. officials who spoke with Bloomberg View on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss it publicly. In February Cohen-Watnick discovered Rice's multiple requests to unmask U.S. persons in intelligence reports that related to Trump transition activities. He brought this to the attention of the White House General Counsel's office, who reviewed more of Rice's requests and instructed him to end his own research into the unmasking policy.

The intelligence reports were summaries of monitored conversations -- primarily between foreign officials discussing the Trump transition, but also in some cases direct contact between members of the Trump team and monitored foreign officials. One U.S. official familiar with the reports said they contained valuable political information on the Trump transition such as whom the Trump team was meeting, the views of Trump associates on foreign policy matters and plans for the incoming administration.

Making matters worse, Rice appears to have lied: while she has not spoken directly on the issue of unmasking, last month when she was asked on the "PBS NewsHour" about reports that Trump transition officials, including Trump himself, were swept up in incidental intelligence collection, Rice said: "I know nothing about this," adding, "I was surprised to see reports from Chairman Nunes on that account today."

More at http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-03/confirmed-susan-rice-unmasked
-trump-team
Also reported at
http://circa.com/politics/barack-obama-changed-how-nsa-intercepts-of-a
mericans-like-donald-trump-could-be-shared
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-03/top-obama-adviser-s
ought-names-of-trump-associates-in-intel

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FURTHERMORE, THE NEW YORK TIMES AND BLOOMBERG SAT ON THIS STORY FOR DAYS, and probably would have sat in it forever, if it hadn't been broken by Mike Cernovich. The news embargo was in an effort to protect Obama.

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ALSO

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Susan Rice Ordered "Detailed Spreadsheets Of Intercepted Phone Calls" With Trump Team

After it was revealed over the weekend by Mike Cernovich that Susan Rice was the mysterious Obama official behind the "unmasking" of Trump associates, the details behind the extreme measures taken by the Obama administration, including what seems to be personal legal liability for Susan Rice and potentially others, continue to grow more and more dist

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THGRRI

Tuesday, April 4, 2017 9:58 PM

I see zerohedge as some of your sourcing SIG. They hide their identities. This post of your is bogus. You, SIG are bogus. Not genuine or true; fake. Sig you are fake. Your post is a subjective mess SIG. Fake, not genuine or true. SIG, you are fake.
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SIG says I'm a deep state troll. oh my.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Confirmed: Susan Rice "Unmasked" Trump Team

Until this morning, the Cernovich report was unconfirmed, with many in the "legacy media" accusing Cernovich, who recently was profiled on 60 Minutes for being a prominent member of the "fake news" dissemination team for being - what else - fake news. However, moments ago Bloomberg's Eli Lake confirmed that it was indeed Susan Rice who was responsible for the repeatedly "unmasking" multiple members of the Trump team, in what may be dubbed yet another "conspiracy" to delegitimize the current US president.

From Eli Lake:

White House lawyers last month learned that the former national security adviser Susan Rice requested the identities of U.S. persons in raw intelligence reports on dozens of occasions that connect to the Donald Trump transition and campaign, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

The pattern of Rice's requests was discovered in a National Security Council review of the government's policy on "unmasking" the identities of individuals in the U.S. who are not targets of electronic eavesdropping, but whose communications are collected incidentally. Normally those names are redacted from summaries of monitored conversations and appear in reports as something like "U.S. Person One."

As Lake adds, the National Security Council's senior director for intelligence, Ezra Cohen-Watnick, was conducting the review, according to two U.S. officials who spoke with Bloomberg View on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss it publicly. In February Cohen-Watnick discovered Rice's multiple requests to unmask U.S. persons in intelligence reports that related to Trump transition activities. He brought this to the attention of the White House General Counsel's office, who reviewed more of Rice's requests and instructed him to end his own research into the unmasking policy.

The intelligence reports were summaries of monitored conversations -- primarily between foreign officials discussing the Trump transition, but also in some cases direct contact between members of the Trump team and monitored foreign officials. One U.S. official familiar with the reports said they contained valuable political information on the Trump transition such as whom the Trump team was meeting, the views of Trump associates on foreign policy matters and plans for the incoming administration.

Making matters worse, Rice appears to have lied: while she has not spoken directly on the issue of unmasking, last month when she was asked on the "PBS NewsHour" about reports that Trump transition officials, including Trump himself, were swept up in incidental intelligence collection, Rice said: "I know nothing about this," adding, "I was surprised to see reports from Chairman Nunes on that account today."

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Susan Rice Ordered "Detailed Spreadsheets Of Intercepted Phone

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6STRINGJOKER

Tuesday, April 4, 2017 11:53 PM

If Sigs is fake, she's really been working the long con.

I think your Russian paranoia is really getting the best of you now T.

SIGNYM

Wednesday, April 5, 2017 4:34 PM

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I see zerohedge as some of your sourcing SIG. They hide their identities. This post of your is bogus. You, SIG are bogus. Not genuine or true; fake. Sig you are fake. Your post is a subjective mess SIG. Fake, not genuine or true. SIG, you are fake.- THUGR

I see that I also posted links to the ORIGINAL SOURCE - BLOOMBERG- which you must have noticed.

Are you saying BLOOMBERG is fake, THUGR?

You are a troll and a liar who spreads disinformation wherever you go. Whatever you're getting paid to lie, it's way too much.

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If Sigs is fake, she's really been working the long con.
I think your Russian paranoia is really getting the best of you now T.- SIX

The mass hysteria isn't genuinely-sourced, it's sourced in CNN, NYT, and WaPo. All "RUSSIA!", all the time. And do you know what their main "expose" is? "Somebody who may have been part of the Trump campaign talked to a Russia once! *hisssssss*.

Well, so did Hillary's camp and so apparently did Bernie's. Good grief.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.

SIGNYM

Wednesday, April 5, 2017 4:56 PM

THUGR, BEFORE YOU SAY THIS IS "FAKE NEW", I'M LINKING THE ORIGINAL ARTICLE HERE TOO. THE NEWS IS ORIGINALLY FROM THE WSJ.

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WSJ reports that Susan Rice Was Not Alone In "Unmasking" Team Trump

As part of its daily wrap of the Susan Rice newsflow, which focused on her first media appearance since she was "outed" as the persona responsible for "unmasking" members of team Trump, the WSJ provides two new pieces of incremental information: i) in addition to Michael Flynn, at least one more member of the Trump transition team was "unmasked" in intelligence reports due to multiple foreign conversations that weren't related to Russia; and ii) Rice wasn't the administration official who instigated Mr. Flynn’s unmasking, confirming there is at least one more high-level official giving "unmasking" orders. https://www.wsj.com/articles/susan-rice-says-obama-administration-didn
t-use-intel-against-trump-associates-for-political-reasons-1491331871

.... this is where the WSJ comes in, with the new info that according to a Republican official familiar with deliberations by GOP lawmakers on the House Intelligence Committee said that the names of two U.S. citizens who were part of Mr. Trump’s transition team have been unmasked in intelligence reports. One is Mr. Flynn and the other hasn’t been identified. The report involving Mr. Flynn documented phone conversations he had in late December with the Russian ambassador to the U.S.

The WSJ then reports that Rice had requested the unmasking of at least one
transition official — not Mr. Flynn — who was part of multiple foreign
conversations that weren't related to Russia.

And the punchline: "The Republican official and others said Ms. Rice wasn't the administration official who instigated Mr. Flynn’s unmasking."

In other words, the story that Susan Rice is the unmasker is incomplete as there is at least one more person exposing the identities of people in Trump's circle, and that the NSA and other intel agencies have been surveiling, accidentally or otherwise, at least one, so far unnamed individual, from Trump's circle. It may well be someone that the WaPo and NYT have already published about, or it may be someone who has yet to hit the newswire, delivering the latest twist of the ongoing intelligence-fed news cycle.

For now the answer is unknown, although when Rice testifies under oath before the House Intel Committee, we hope that all outstanding questions will finally get answers.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-04/wsj-least-one-more-previously
-unnamed-member-team-trump-has-been-unmasked

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.

SIGNYM

Wednesday, April 5, 2017 5:33 PM

What I expect to hear is a lot of denial and deflection from Susan Rice:

Unmasking is normal
I didn't do it
I didn't do it for political reasons (contradicts the previous)
It's not the same as leaking

However, there are a few things that Rice will specifically try to deflect from, and that is she apparently showed a PATTERN of "unmasking" the same person or persons, over and over again. So much so that it was the PATTERN which showed up when the log was analyzed.

And there is a logical conundrum here: If the identity of the American involved in this "incidental surveillance" is masked in the raw intelligence (Referred to as "US person number one" in transcript, for example) How did Susan Rice know WHICH raw intelligence to be unmasked?

Wouldn't that be a little like reaching "blindly" into a bag of jellybeans and "somehow" always pulling up lime? It seems to me you could only do that with the NSA's help (That Great Database in the sky). Well, I'm sure Trey Gowdy already has that in mind. In addition, the number and variety of leaks that have come out of the "intelligence" community tells me that Susan Rice isn't the only one unmasking and leaking.

And so far, despite all the poo that has been flung against the wall, the leakers and their cooperative media outlets have not uncovered anything other than "somebody talked to a Russian once", which is a ridiculous allegation since apparently ALL of the candidates or their aides talked to Russians at one time or another, and SOME of them (Podestas) have been paid a lot of Russian money too.

Best not to think too hard on THAT, eh?

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UNMASKING

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GOWDY: Director Comey, I am not arguing with you and I do agree that culture is important, but if there are 100 people who have the ability to unmask and the knowledge of a previously masked name, then that's 100 different potential sources of investigation and the smaller the number is, the easier your investigation is.

So the number is relevant. I can see the culture is relevant. NSA, FBI, what other U.S. government agencies have the authority to unmask a U.S. citizen's name?

COMEY: I think all agencies that collect information pursuant to FISA have what are called standard minimization procedures, which are approved by the FISA court that govern how they will treat U.S. person information. So I know the NSA does, I know the CIA does, obviously the FBI does. I don't know for sure beyond that.

GOWDY: How about the department of -- how about Main Justice?

COMEY: Main Justice, I think does have standard minimization procedures.

GOWDY: All right, so that's four. The NSA, FBI, CIA, Main Justice. Does the White House have the authority to unmask a U.S. citizen's name?

COMEY: I think other elements of the government that are consumers of our products can ask the collectors to unmask. The unmasking resides with those who collected the information.

Never underestimate Trey Gowdy, he's one really smart prosecutor. He was building a case even when he was questioning Comey.

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Well, anyway, I've gone upstream a bit to explain why I'm sure that all of this unmasking and leaking indicates cooperation at the highest levels by the NSA ... as well as the existence of their Great Database in the Sky (or, in this case, their Great Data Center near Bluffdale, UT. Hey, they didn't build that exabyte data storage center for shits and giggles, yanno!)

But in addition to the mechanics of surveillance and data storage, I have to wonder .... WHY did the "intelligence community" and their "media partners" pick this fight with Trump?

I mean, they're throwing their ALL into this thing, to the point of unmasking themselves (Susan Rice, Brennan, etc.) and potentially discrediting the parts of the MSM that are cooperating with them. If this blows open it will be bigger than when the "WMD"