What are America's interests?
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UPDATED: Tuesday, June 2, 2026 17:48
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So, what are AMERICA'S interests??
Well, there are both individual and societal interests (as described) and although they depend on each other, they aren't the same.
Tackling societal interests first:
energy: wind, solar, carbon, hydro, animal, human etc
materiel: food, water, metals, cements and clays, fibers, etc
environmental sustainability: resources for the foreseeable future
robustness: the ability to withstand or recover from disruption
transportation
reproduction of its memes (because that is what society is: ideas of how we're supposed to live together)
self-defense against internal and external threat
and something we have yet to achieve: SOCIAL SELF AWARENESS. The ability to modify our society as necessary to get it back to the "right track"
Personally, I believe that society's purpose is to meet OUR needs, not to achieve some "higher goal" like "serving god" or "being s steward of god's creation" or "conquering the universe" or even "learning the universe" (Although that seems like a benign and possibly even useful goal). Religiously-based societies will, of course, disagree with me. But OUR needs, aside from physical requirements are
belonging to a society which doesn't stress us including (for most people)...
close personal acceptance
learning and mental stimulation
at least SOME control over our environment and future
a feeling of fairness and sharing
physical labor and manual activities
some feel the need for a "larger purpose" in life
As I mentioned, there is a fairly large parameter-space in which "societies" can exist and even thrive.
Here is where I think American's interests lie, and where they aren't being met:
We potentially have enough of all of the resources required - except energy and some transition or specialty metals - to meet most of our needs and many of our wants. With proper utilization of resources, we should be able to trade in a balanced fashion for anything that we don't have.
However, we live in a sick society: the resources, control, work, and rewards are distributed unfairly and unevenly. Worse, we live in a society where we are encouraged to consume individually and compete universally, rejecting the idea that "society" even exists or needs tending, leading to a failure of communities, extended families, and nuclear families, a universal feeling of never "belonging" (progressive atomization) and an inability to evaluate how our "society" is functioning and redirect its organization, if necessary. "They" say that you can only lengthen your life by (1) giving up smoking or (2) reducing stress. Just look at the number of stressed-out people on our society: I think it's fair to say that our dysfunctional approach is, literally, killing us.
We've lost the "meme" that would make us prosper: hard work for fair compensation. It's been hijacked by oligarchs and globalists who have not only convinced us that there is no society and that work is stupid, but that "greed is good". In this way, they can continue their parasitism without fear of reaction.
We're highly dependent on distribution technology: Any prolonged and widespread interruption of water, food, power and communication distribution, and trash and sewage removal due to solar flare, hurricane, earthquake etc. in a large city would lead to catastrophic failure.
We're too dependent on labor-saving and interaction-saving technology to the extent that we're UNHEALTHY.
Furthermore, our energy use and (in the west) water use is unsustainable. In fact, we're chewing up our natural environment ... reducing the variety of species and numbers of wild plants and animals to the extent that our ecosystems are becoming fragile and less productive.
Our infrastructure is crumbling ... has been, for decades.
We aren't well set up to resist cyber-attack. "The inter
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Originally posted by G:
You have to be getting paid by the post because we're 50 posts in and you haven't said anything of value. The most telling assertion: "bear with me."
And what's with the weird indents? It's like you have copied someone else's writing and reposted it without realizing there's no floating return.
I await your deflection.
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Originally posted by G:
You have to be getting paid by the post because we're 50 posts in and you haven't said anything of value. The most telling assertion: "bear with me."
And what's with the weird indents? It's like you have copied someone else's writing and reposted it without realizing there's no floating return.
I await your deflection.
Thgr, he's got a point. Lately your indents have been all screwed up. we can't tell what is you and what is G. you gotta have the same number of |quote|s as |/quote|s (i can't do the brackets obviously or you wouldn't see them)
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Quote:They display fine here.
Thgr, he's got a point. Lately your indents have been all screwed up.
Quote:It's easy: all of the white letters are mine. All of the blue letters are quoted from someone else; the usual "quote" format. As you can see, I haven't really quoted ANYBODY... most of the posts are all mine
we can't tell what is you and what is G.
Quote:I do. Tell me where the formatting looks screwed up; there may be some weird interaction between my OS and this website.
you gotta have the same number of |quote|s as |/quote|s (i can't do the brackets obviously or you wouldn't see them)
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Going back to the title of the thread - What are America's interests? - I'd say it depends on what you think is 'America'. Assuming 'America' is a political collection of people, with a political system that's supposed to be "of, by, and for the people", then 'America's' interests are the people's interests as a whole.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Originally posted by G:
You have to be getting paid by the post because we're 50 posts in and you haven't said anything of value. The most telling assertion: "bear with me."
And what's with the weird indents? It's like you have copied someone else's writing and reposted it without realizing there's no floating return.
I await your deflection.
Thgr, he's got a point. Lately your indents have been all screwed up. we can't tell what is you and what is G. you gotta have the same number of |quote|s as |/quote|s (i can't do the brackets obviously or you wouldn't see them)
The whole quote is G responding to SIG. I just reposted it. So you suggesting G has a point about my indents, ( sorry, I'm laughing to hard ), implying you noticed the same thing is, ( sorry, I'm laughing to hard ), well funny.
Any suggestions, ( sorry, I'm laughing to hard ), on how I can fix that.
You said you wanted to start anew with me. Then stop being disingenuous and try being more candid and sincere.
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America is currently built on control of the oil market in dollars, to back the fiat currency it issues and uses to run everything badly.
A new america might believe in ingenuity and develop something new.
America as a piece of land wants rid of these humans.
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
oic. i thought he was responding to you. Your quotes were effed on the last 50 or so posts. they all got mashed together. maybe formatting in your sig?
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Quote:Oops - your stupidity is slipping.
Originally posted by THGRRI:
The whole quote is G responding to SIG. I just reposted it. So you suggesting G has a point about my indents, ( sorry, I'm laughing to hard ), implying you noticed the same thing is, ( sorry, I'm laughing to hard ), well funny.
Any suggestions, ( sorry, I'm laughing to hard ), on how I can fix that.
You said you wanted to start anew with me. Then stop being disingenuous and try being more candid and sincere.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
oic. i thought he was responding to you. Your quotes were effed on the last 50 or so posts. they all got mashed together. maybe formatting in your sig?
Bullshit
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