The wiretap tweet IS true (update)

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THGRRI

Monday, March 6, 2017 3:02 AM

The opinions you express in this post show your are not interested in the truth. Only in arguing alternative facts.

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What SIG doesn't realize, is her link to the BBC lays out a clear case as to why there would be a need to tap Trumps phones. This is more self inflected wounds with SIG picking at the scabs. - THUGR
THUGR, if you had read the article for comprehension, instead of for talking points, or if you had been following the actions of FISA court on your own, you would have realized that the FIAS Court almost never turns down a request for surveillance. As the article said

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“The problem with the President’s question is that the standards for FISA are so low and easily satisfied (with little judicial review) that it is difficult to establish any illegality under the law,” wrote George Washington Law Professor Jonathan Turley.

As of 2015,

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Here's how many US surveillance requests were rejected in 2015
The FISA Court has only rejected 12 requests in more than three decades.

Since 1979 through to 2015, the last round of reporting figures, the court has approved 38,365 warrants but only rejected a dozen. That's a rejection rate of 0.031 percent.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/us-spy-court-didnt-reject-a-single-secret
-government-demand-for-data/
That the first two requests for surveillance were REJECTED shows just how weak the case was to being with, and it was reoslved in the usual way by the requesting authorities: judge-shopping.

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He's acting like a guilty man. He's paranoid for a reason.
Gee, why would that be???

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR IS A DEEP-STATE TROLL

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THGRRI

Monday, March 6, 2017 3:03 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm posting the Breitbart version in full because it is supposedly THE source of Trump's tweet, however, what was published here was also sourced elsewhere, including in the BBC.

Here is the BBC on the surveillance
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Lawyers from the National Security Division in the Department of Justice then drew up an application. They took it to the secret US court that deals with intelligence, the Fisa court, named after the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. They wanted permission to intercept the electronic records from two Russian banks.

Their first application, in June, was rejected outright by the judge. They returned with a more narrowly drawn order in July and were rejected again. Finally, before a new judge, the order was granted, on 15 October, three weeks before election day.

Full coverage: Trump takes office

Neither Mr Trump nor his associates are named in the Fisa order, which would only cover foreign citizens or foreign entities - in this case the Russian banks. But ultimately, the investigation is looking for transfers of money from Russia to the United States, each one, if proved, a felony offence.

A lawyer- outside the Department of Justice but familiar with the case - told me that three of Mr Trump's associates were the subject of the inquiry. "But it's clear this is about Trump," he said.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

So, is Trump nuts???

No, I don't think so. I think this is full-scale war between the CIA/ deep state and the Trump Administration. Last time this happened, that President wound up dead. I know our gentle friends from outside the USA can't imagine that this could possibly be going on, but yanno... when a world empire is at stake oligarchs will order some crazy shit be done.

The BREITBART VERSION
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Radio host Mark Levin used his Thursday evening show to outline the known steps taken by President Barack Obama’s administration in its last months to undermine Donald Trump’s presidential campaign and, later, his new administration.

Levin called Obama’s effort “police state” tactics, and suggested that Obama’s actions, rather than conspiracy theories about alleged Russian interference in the presidential election to help Trump, should be the target of congressional investigation.

Drawing on sources including the New York Times and the Washington Post, Levin described the case against Obama so far, based on what is already publicly known. The following is an expanded version of that case, including events that Levin did not mention specifically but are important to the overall timeline.

1. June 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration files a request with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to monitor communications involving Donald Trump and several advisers. The request, uncharacteristically, is denied.

2. July: Russia joke. Wikileaks releases emails from the Democratic National Committee that show an effort to prevent Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) from winning the presidential nomination. In a press conference, Donald Trump refers to Hillary Clinton’s own missing emails, joking: “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing.” That remark becomes the basis for accusations by Clinton and the media that Trump invited further hacking.

3. October: Podesta emails. In October, Wikileaks releases the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta, rolling out batches every day until the election, creating new mini-scandals. The Clinton campaign blames Trump and the Russians.

4. October: FISA request. The Obama administration submits a new, narrow request to the FISA court, now focused on a computer server in Trump Tower suspected of links to Russian banks. No evidence is found — but the wiretaps continue, ostensibly for national security reasons, Andrew McCarthy at National Review later notes. The Obama administration is now mon

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1KIKI

Monday, March 6, 2017 4:41 AM

the person who would have to ok the wire tap name needed is on the record link needed

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, March 6, 2017 5:11 AM

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the person who would have to ok the wire tap name needed is on the record link needed

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

There's only one guy for that?

And since when did we start believing that the government is telling us the truth again?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Monday, March 6, 2017 5:36 AM

No, there isn't only one man. THUGGER is wrong - again. There are 11 judges - three are women. http://www.fisc.uscourts.gov/current-membership
That bullshit about "a man who served this country for the past 50 years"(!), no less, being "on the record" is just the usual THUGGER bullshit.

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Really though, the person who would have to ok the wire tap is on the record as saying it didn't happen. This is a man who served this country for the past 50 years.

Let me do the math. Fifty years of service, vs Trump.

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

DREAMTROVE

Monday, March 6, 2017 10:31 AM

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There's only one guy for that?

Yeah, we have a chapp for that.

THGRRI

Monday, March 6, 2017 10:38 AM

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the person who would have to ok the wire tap name needed is on the record link needed

James Clapper is his name. When are you going to learn that some of us hear only deal in truths. Sometimes we are wrong but never liars. Any such wire taps Clapper would have to have been aware of.

It doesn't matter now. The head of the FBI just called on the Justice Department to publicly declare Trumps claims of wire taping to be false. This thing is going to be over before it starts. Trump along with his credibility is really up shits creek now.

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1KIKI

Monday, March 6, 2017 10:58 AM

James Clapper is his name. And snooping is his game. But no, it's not Clapper. Try again.

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, March 7, 2017 6:33 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Trump along with his credibility is really up shits creek now.

Only to people who didn't believe he had any credibility in the first place. Most people I know either haven't heard about the "Russia thing" or don't believe any of it. Then again, I'm not part of Hollywood and I don't live on a college campus.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, March 7, 2017 6:39 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm posting the Breitbart version in full because it is supposedly THE source of Trump's tweet, however, what was published here was also sourced elsewhere, including in the BBC.

Here is the BBC on the surveillance
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Lawyers from the National Security Division in the Department of Justice then drew up an application. They took it to the secret US court that deals with intelligence, the Fisa court, named after the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. They wanted permission to intercept the electronic records from two Russian banks.

Their first application, in June, was rejected outright by the judge. They returned with a more narrowly drawn order in July and were rejected again. Finally, before a new judge, the order was granted, on 15 October, three weeks before election day.

Full coverage: Trump takes office

Neither Mr Trump nor his associates are named in the Fisa order, which would only cover foreign citizens or foreign entities - in this case the Russian banks. But ultimately, the investigation is looking for transfers of money from Russia to the United States, each one, if proved, a felony offence.

A lawyer- outside the Department of Justice but familiar with the case - told me that three of Mr Trump's associates were the subject of the inquiry. "But it's clear this is about Trump," he said.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

So, is Trump nuts???

No, I don't think so. I think this is full-scale war between the CIA/ deep state and the Trump Administration. Last time this happened, that President wound up dead. I know our gentle friends from outside the USA can't imagine that this could possibly be going on, but yanno... when a world empire is at stake oligarchs will order some crazy shit be done.

The BREITBART VERSION
Quote:
Radio host Mark Levin used his Thursday evening show to outline the known steps taken by President Barack Obama’s administration in its last months to undermine Donald Trump’s presidential campaign and, later, his new administration.

Levin called Obama’s effort “police state” tactics, and suggested that Obama’s actions, rather than conspiracy theories about alleged Russian interference in the presidential election to help Trump, should be the target of congressional investigation.

Drawing on sources including the New York Times and the Washington Post, Levin described the case against Obama so far, based on what is already publicly known. The following is an expanded version of that case, including events that Levin did not mention specifically but are important to the overall timeline.

1. June 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration files a request with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to monitor communications involving Donald Trump and several advisers. The request, uncharacteristically, is denied.

2. July: Russia joke. Wikileaks releases emails from the Democratic National Committee that show an effort to prevent Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) from winning the presidential nomination. In a press conference, Donald Trump refers to Hillary Clinton’s own missing emails, joking: “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing.” That remark becomes the basis for accusations by Clinton and the media that Trump invited further hacking.

3. October: Podesta emails. In October, Wikileaks releases the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta, rolling out batches every day until the election, creating new mini-scandals. The Clinton campaign blames Trump and the Russians.

4. October: FISA request. The Obama administration submits a new, narrow request to the FISA court, now focused on a computer server in Trump Tower suspected of links to Russian banks. No evidence is found — but the wiretaps continue, ostensibly for national security reasons, Andrew McCarthy at National Review later no

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